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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 16, 2018 5:23:33 GMT -5
16 years ago today, I saw Oasis in Lille. Great memories. Seen them a few months earlier in Manchester, but this was a much more intimate setting. I remember Noel wanted to play Wonderwall acoustic, but got all grumpy because the crowd was singing the normal version, where he wanted to go Ryan Adams. So he played Married with children instead. "I don't get paid to hear you sing". www.stopcryingyourheartout.co.uk/2018/11/on-this-day-in-oasis-history_16.html Great post and you heard Married With Children!  My Oasis thoughts for the day is: It's 10 years ago this time around when I bought the tickets for my last 2 Oasis gigs. 2 nights at Heineken Music Hall in Amsterdam, 21st & 22nd January 2009. It was the last time when I bought gig tickets at my local ticket shop. I was the first person in the queue at the front of the shop. I bought my tickets and went back home. As soon as I got home, I saw they announced the second night, so I jumped on my bike to heading to the ticket shop again and bought another tickets for second night. My English friend was gonna join me to see Oasis in Amsterdam and I sent a txt message to him "I got our tickets for both nights!". He sent a txt straight back to me saying "Well done! I'm impressed". Good times. |
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Nov 16, 2018 8:26:19 GMT -5
It's really great to read these accounts of Oasis gigs. I wish I could have seen them but I was too young at the time.
It seems almost unbelievable to me that I've only been an Oasis fan for a year and a half. In the intervening time I've collected every last scrap of recorded music ever done by them and I live my fucking life for Oasis now!
If you'd have told me a year ago that by today I'd have seen Liam Gallagher four times and Noel as well I wouldn't have believed you. What a time to be alive!
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 16, 2018 9:06:33 GMT -5
I'd love to hear the first few verses of All Around the World arranged like the first verses of Wonderwall - acoustic guitars and light drums, compressed underneath Liam's blaring vocals.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 16, 2018 10:29:03 GMT -5
Really my ideal version would be the rethink with a few more guitar layers, but that's probably a lot harder to do. Ideally, Noel would actually "Rethink" the whole album, so we could have a listen to that. It would be lovely. The album should be remixed. But not by Noel. He’ll only edit the songs down and cut out the lead guitar parts he’s embarrassed he came up with, like he did with his emasculated take on ‘D’You Know What I Mean?’ from 2016. We need someone to come along who understands the appeal of the album for fans, will respect that, but won’t be so reverent about it that they negate to make the changes that really need to be made. Probably no such person will ever present themself. And if they did, I don’t think Noel would let them have at it, anyway. I bet he’d rather comb through the mastertapes of an album he hates than give over the reigns to an outsider who might actually know what they’re doing. Well, that was the problem to begin with, wasn’t it, that he sat in on the mixing process when he should’ve just left it to Owen Morris or someone else? |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 16, 2018 11:02:51 GMT -5
My friend got me into Oasis around 1995 (the same friend got me into Arsenal around the same time). Be Here Now was my first ever album that I received for Xmas in 1997.
So you can quite easily make the case that I’ve been an Oasis fan from the beginning - I was just too young to know and appreciate it at the time.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 16, 2018 12:47:03 GMT -5
Columbia makes me want to twat a geezah!!!
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 16, 2018 13:41:33 GMT -5
Stay Young works really nicely after The Girl in the Dirty Shirt, continues the bouncy feel of the keyboard outro.
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Post by Derrick on Nov 16, 2018 14:21:24 GMT -5
I remember Noel wanted to play Wonderwall acoustic, but got all grumpy because the crowd was singing the normal version, where he wanted to go Ryan Adams. So he played Married with children instead. "I don't get paid to hear you sing". |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 17, 2018 13:31:41 GMT -5
Question: Could Be Here Now have sold even more in it's first week than it did? In other words, was the hype so big that anyone was who was vaguely interested in Oasis bought it, or could it have been even bigger?
Let's say that D'You Know What I Mean?, Stand By Me, and Don't Go Away were pre-album singles, with the first two having both a rethought production and a single edit (think that 5-minute remastered video for DYKWIM on YouTube), would they have been played on the radio/MTV more and attracted more people? I wasn't born until 1999 so I don't really know what the situation was, could they have been getting even more airplay?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 17, 2018 13:39:24 GMT -5
I remember Noel wanted to play Wonderwall acoustic, but got all grumpy because the crowd was singing the normal version, where he wanted to go Ryan Adams. So he played Married with children instead. "I don't get paid to hear you sing". In 2008 or 2009 Noel let the entire stadium sing DLBIA. It’s a damn shame there is no pro-shot of that. The video bootleg of it doing the rounds is spine tingling. |
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Post by Jack on Nov 17, 2018 13:46:41 GMT -5
Question: Could Be Here Now have sold even more in it's first week than it did? In other words, was the hype so big that anyone was who was vaguely interested in Oasis bought it, or could it have been even bigger? Let's say that D'You Know What I Mean?, Stand By Me, and Don't Go Away were pre-album singles, with the first two having both a rethought production and a single edit (think that 5-minute remastered video for DYKWIM on YouTube), would they have been played on the radio/MTV more and attracted more people? I wasn't born until 1999 so I don't really know what the situation was, could they have been getting even more airplay? All the long singles had radio edits, DYKWIM was cut to 5 mins, so I guess the radio play was pretty standard. The videos would have been shown on MTV regularly too, just as much as any other big band at the time. Without the internet, that was pretty much all the promo they could do, aside from print media. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 17, 2018 14:03:39 GMT -5
Question: Could Be Here Now have sold even more in it's first week than it did? In other words, was the hype so big that anyone was who was vaguely interested in Oasis bought it, or could it have been even bigger? Let's say that D'You Know What I Mean?, Stand By Me, and Don't Go Away were pre-album singles, with the first two having both a rethought production and a single edit (think that 5-minute remastered video for DYKWIM on YouTube), would they have been played on the radio/MTV more and attracted more people? I wasn't born until 1999 so I don't really know what the situation was, could they have been getting even more airplay? , so I guess the radio play was pretty standard. The videos would have been shown on MTV regularly too, just as much as any other big band at the time. Without the internet, that was pretty much all the promo they could do, aside from print media. There was? |
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Post by Jack on Nov 17, 2018 14:06:37 GMT -5
All the long singles had radio edits, DYKWIM was cut to 5 mins, so I guess the radio play was pretty standard. The videos would have been shown on MTV regularly too, just as much as any other big band at the time. Without the internet, that was pretty much all the promo they could do, aside from print media. There was? Yeah, the single version is 5:45, which is still longer than most radio edits for music singles. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 17, 2018 14:09:50 GMT -5
Yeah, the single version is 5:45, which is still longer than most radio edits for music singles. Where can I find that? |
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Post by Jack on Nov 17, 2018 14:14:22 GMT -5
Yeah, the single version is 5:45, which is still longer than most radio edits for music singles. Where can I find that? Its available on the original CD single, Im sure you can find an mp3 of it easily enough. 'All Around The World' was also cut from 9:38 to 4:51 |
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Nov 17, 2018 14:23:08 GMT -5
In an alternative world OASIS release a non album CD single of STAY YOUNG shortly after Knebworth building the hype possibly with live tracks as b-sides. That would have helped massively I think.
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Post by World71R on Nov 17, 2018 15:45:31 GMT -5
Stay Young works really nicely after The Girl in the Dirty Shirt, continues the bouncy feel of the keyboard outro. I like that idea, but I'd put Fade In-Out before TGITDS, then Stay Young and the rest of the album after it. That would give Fade In-Out a position similar to what Gas Panic! has on SOTSOG where it's like an epic in the middle of the song that breaks the album a bit and really sets the two sides apart. |
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Post by beentherenow on Nov 18, 2018 8:58:48 GMT -5
Today I was listening to Suede’s 2 disk best of and what struck me is how much better Disk 2 is to Disk 1. For those of you that don’t have it, Disk 1 is a collection of their singles whereas Disk 2 is B-sides and album tracks. So it got me think if Oasis had done the same with a best of, would Disk 1 or Disk 2 be stronger? Oasis obviously had incredible B-sides and album tracks but the singles were also very strong. So I did the below (I edited the singles the make it fit on one Disk)
Disk One-The UK Singles
Supersonic
Live Forever
Cigarettes & Alcohol
Whatever
Some Might Say
Roll With It
Wonderwall
Don’t Look Back in Anger
Dyou Know What I mean?
Stand By Me
All Around The World
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love?
Stop Crying Your Heart Out
Little By Little
Songbird
Lyla
The Importance of Being Idle
The Shock of the Lightning
Disk 2- B Sides and Album Tracks
Rock n Roll Star
Columbia
Slide Away
Listen Up
Fade Away
Half The World Away
(It’s Good) To Be Free
Acquiesce
Morning Glory
Talk Tonight
Champagne Supernova
The Masterplan
Rockin Chair
Don’t Go Away
Stay Young
Gas Panic!
Let’s All Make Believe
Bag It Up
The Turning
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Nov 18, 2018 12:37:25 GMT -5
I mean that is arguably Stop The Clocks just that it's not divided into two discs and there's nothing from Be Here Now or DOYS
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Post by draper on Nov 19, 2018 4:50:01 GMT -5
I remember Noel wanted to play Wonderwall acoustic, but got all grumpy because the crowd was singing the normal version, where he wanted to go Ryan Adams. So he played Married with children instead. "I don't get paid to hear you sing". Yeah, Noel 2002 wasn't the same as 1997 I guess  . |
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Post by beentherenow on Nov 19, 2018 13:56:58 GMT -5
I mean that is arguably Stop The Clocks just that it's not divided into two discs and there's nothing from Be Here Now or DOYS Agreed but my point wasn’t that it was needed it as a real album but I was merely wondering of what would be the stronger disk. Mainly Because as mentioned Suede’s b-sides and album tracks are far stronger than their singles and I couldn’t think of another band which would be the same. I mean some bands have great bsides but for the collection to be stronger than the singles is very rare. Oasis are close but looking at it I think the singles might still be slightly better |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 21, 2018 15:07:16 GMT -5
Would you say Who Built the Moon was sound and style the band were trying to achieve with SOTSOG?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2018 15:09:07 GMT -5
Would you say Who Built the Moon was sound and style the band were trying to achieve with SOTSOG? No. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 21, 2018 15:10:33 GMT -5
The bridge on The Girl in the Dirty Shirt is fucking great, just slightly less cocaine in the sessions for that track would have made a truly classic bit of Oasis fun. Love the keyboards, adore the melody, Liam's vocals are just ecstatic, and the outro is so much fucking fun. Tune.
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