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Post by glider on Jul 21, 2015 14:04:38 GMT -5
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jul 21, 2015 14:40:19 GMT -5
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Post by scott1 on Jul 21, 2015 14:44:56 GMT -5
This thread was destined to fall apart from the moment it was opened.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jul 21, 2015 14:48:18 GMT -5
On second thought, everybody on this forum is Dave Sardy, except for tomlivesforever who is obviously Liam, kalas (Digsy), and Let It Bleed (what's his name now?), who is just an Internet virus that managed to absorb the whole of IMDb and somehow became obsessed with the moderator of a forum focused on the British band Oasis.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 21, 2015 15:25:07 GMT -5
I'm not Dave Sardy, I'm Sara
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 15:36:51 GMT -5
I'm not Dave Sardy, I'm Sara And what happened when you woke up?
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Post by World71R on Jul 21, 2015 15:39:34 GMT -5
I'm not Dave Sardy, I'm Sara And I'm not Dave Sardy, I'm Meg, you fucking bitch.
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Post by batfink30 on Jul 21, 2015 15:46:07 GMT -5
Anais is a hologram that Noels songwriting team invented so Noel could win female fans for being "cute" and having kids. It's all a fucking elaborate hoax, people.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 22, 2015 2:19:20 GMT -5
always question everything!!!They were few lads from Burnage. But were they really just a few lads from Burnage?
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 25, 2015 19:28:14 GMT -5
Of course he knew Alan would be there. Wasn't that the whole reason for them to go there? I thought that was common knowledge. They didn't know Alan McGee would be present. How should they have? Noel apparently didn't even recognise him at first, after he proposed them a record deal. The story has been told and been written about seemingly million times and it pretty much just varies in how Oasis actually got on stage at all that day (arriving at the venue and being denied to play at first) and how A lan reacted (pouring a bottle of whiskey over his head, calling one of the Abbots at this label, declaring he's just seen 'future of rock'n'roll' or just kindly approaching them afterwards etc...). Alan McGee had been visiting King Tut's in Glasgow in the first place that very day because he wanted to see a friend's band called 'Sister Lovers' (yeah..., but apparently named after the Big Star album). Other accounts claim he just got some time off while waiting for a train to arrive. I guess, as always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I've yet to read his book on his story with Creation Records, it's been waiting on the shelf, gathering dust for quite some time now. I find it quite fascinating that the same record label is responsible for such diverse landmark records as 'Loveless' (which almost got them to declare bankruptcy) and Definitely Maybe only a little later (which in fact rehabilitated them financially). Got the Paolo Hewitt book "Getting High- The Adventures of Oasis" in which he claims that McGee story came from him listening to Supersonic at a BBC session for the first time, he sat down with a JD & coke and the chair collapsed, spilling it over his white jeans. You gotta be fair though, it sounds much more rock n' roll mythology style with the version noel gives
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Post by joladella on Feb 9, 2017 13:53:09 GMT -5
thequietus.com/articles/21752-the-quietus-hour-radio-podcast-david-keenan-interviewI'm just listening to this interview, with writer David Keenan. Very interesting! Among all the rest, apparently he was a member of 18 Wheeler and going out with one of the girls from Sister Lover. He doubts the McGee surprise story as he says that McGee said before the Glasgow gig that he was about to sign someone and apparently Oasis were the only unsigned band that night. That part is about 50:00.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 14:54:07 GMT -5
I suspect that Noel hatched his plan once he started writing Rock n' Roll Star, Live Forever, Slide Away etc and realised he had more about him than the people writing the songs in the (big!) bands he was hanging around with. At that point he had the songs and the contacts to make it big if the circumstances were right. His brother had an amazing voice and was in a band that was competent enough to play the songs and shit enough to not have a hope in hell of making it without Noel. An absolutely perfect vehicle for Noel's songs and a perfect narrative to start to spin.
Whatever the truth is about King Tut's, Johnny Marr and any other strokes of "luck" Oasis had, I bet Liam and the rest never even knew about it themselves. Noel makes plans and pulls strings and he's been doing it since 1991. He's admitted on several occasions to stories being exaggerated.
I think 80% of what we know about the beginnings of Oasis are probably true but it's certainly not as simple as the way we hear it. You find it all out in The X Factor every year - half of those who do well have been involved with Simon Cowell for years. Take a look at Ellie Goulding - she's doing the O2 and she's no better than the generic "girl who can sing" at your school. What does Mark Ronson actually do? It's all connections.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 10, 2017 4:15:54 GMT -5
They didn't know Alan McGee would be present. How should they have? Noel apparently didn't even recognise him at first, after he proposed them a record deal. The story has been told and been written about seemingly million times and it pretty much just varies in how Oasis actually got on stage at all that day (arriving at the venue and being denied to play at first) and how Alan reacted (pouring a bottle of whiskey over his head, calling one of the Abbots at this label, declaring he's just seen 'future of rock'n'roll' or just kindly approaching them afterwards etc...). Alan McGee had been visiting King Tut's in Glasgow in the first place that very day because he wanted to see a friend's band called 'Sister Lovers' (yeah..., but apparently named after the Big Star album). Other accounts claim he just got some time off while waiting for a train to arrive. I guess, as always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I've yet to read his book on his story with Creation Records, it's been waiting on the shelf, gathering dust for quite some time now. I find it quite fascinating that the same record label is responsible for such diverse landmark records as 'Loveless' (which almost got them to declare bankruptcy) and Definitely Maybe only a little later (which in fact rehabilitated them financially). Yeah well, I'm not buying that. You're going to travel all the way to Glasgow and force your way into a club with only a few people present just for the hell of it? Not to mention how much it must have cost them to get there in the first place. Yeah, this is a story that has been told many times, and is probably guilty of being remembered incorrectly at times. We will probably never know the fully correct story. The more we know, the less plausible it all seems. Some things should be left unknown I guess. Noel has openly admitted (in Supersonic) that he was well aware of McGee. He also knew that Debbie from the Sister Lovers, who they travelled up with, used to date McGee. But yes, they travelled up to Glasgow. Because that's what you do if you want to be successful. You push yourself out. Oasis never waited for anybody to come to them, they forced it onto people.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 10, 2017 4:37:36 GMT -5
Yeah well, I'm not buying that. You're going to travel all the way to Glasgow and force your way into a club with only a few people present just for the hell of it? Not to mention how much it must have cost them to get there in the first place. Yeah, this is a story that has been told many times, and is probably guilty of being remembered incorrectly at times. We will probably never know the fully correct story. The more we know, the less plausible it all seems. Some things should be left unknown I guess. Noel has openly admitted (in Supersonic) that he was well aware of McGee. He also knew that Debbie from the Sister Lovers, who they travelled up with, used to date McGee. But yes, they travelled up to Glasgow. Because that's what you do if you want to be successful. You push yourself out. Oasis never waited for anybody to come to them, they forced it onto people. Thanks for replying to something I said more than a year and a half ago. Really useful.
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Post by spaneli on Feb 10, 2017 8:10:59 GMT -5
I suspect that Noel hatched his plan once he started writing Rock n' Roll Star, Live Forever, Slide Away etc and realised he had more about him than the people writing the songs in the (big!) bands he was hanging around with. At that point he had the songs and the contacts to make it big if the circumstances were right. His brother had an amazing voice and was in a band that was competent enough to play the songs and shit enough to not have a hope in hell of making it without Noel. An absolutely perfect vehicle for Noel's songs and a perfect narrative to start to spin. Whatever the truth is about King Tut's, Johnny Marr and any other strokes of "luck" Oasis had, I bet Liam and the rest never even knew about it themselves. Noel makes plans and pulls strings and he's been doing it since 1991. He's admitted on several occasions to stories being exaggerated. I think 80% of what we know about the beginnings of Oasis are probably true but it's certainly not as simple as the way we hear it. You find it all out in The X Factor every year - half of those who do well have been involved with Simon Cowell for years. Take a look at Ellie Goulding - she's doing the O2 and she's no better than the generic "girl who can sing" at your school. What does Mark Ronson actually do? It's all connections. I'll admit, I've seen Ellie Goulding live (at Lolla). I was very skeptical going in, but she won me over. She's extremely talented
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Post by spud on Feb 10, 2017 9:10:10 GMT -5
thequietus.com/articles/21752-the-quietus-hour-radio-podcast-david-keenan-interviewI'm just listening to this interview, with writer David Keenan. Very interesting! Among all the rest, apparently he was a member of 18 Wheeler and going out with one of the girls from Sister Lover. He doubts the McGee surprise story as he says that McGee said before the Glasgow gig that he was about to sign someone and apparently Oasis were the only unsigned band that night. That part is about 50:00. Thanks for that. Found it interesting the stuff he was saying about Oasis being weird. One of the things I took away from Supersonic is the realization that Liam was/is an unusual, one-off character in the same vein as Morrissey or someone like that.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 10, 2017 10:58:25 GMT -5
Noel has openly admitted (in Supersonic) that he was well aware of McGee. He also knew that Debbie from the Sister Lovers, who they travelled up with, used to date McGee. But yes, they travelled up to Glasgow. Because that's what you do if you want to be successful. You push yourself out. Oasis never waited for anybody to come to them, they forced it onto people. Thanks for replying to something I said more than a year and a half ago. Really useful. Sound
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Post by globe on Feb 10, 2017 14:04:04 GMT -5
They didn't know Alan McGee would be present. How should they have? Noel apparently didn't even recognise him at first, after he proposed them a record deal. The story has been told and been written about seemingly million times and it pretty much just varies in how Oasis actually got on stage at all that day (arriving at the venue and being denied to play at first) and how Alan reacted (pouring a bottle of whiskey over his head, calling one of the Abbots at this label, declaring he's just seen 'future of rock'n'roll' or just kindly approaching them afterwards etc...). Alan McGee had been visiting King Tut's in Glasgow in the first place that very day because he wanted to see a friend's band called 'Sister Lovers' (yeah..., but apparently named after the Big Star album). Other accounts claim he just got some time off while waiting for a train to arrive. I guess, as always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I've yet to read his book on his story with Creation Records, it's been waiting on the shelf, gathering dust for quite some time now. I find it quite fascinating that the same record label is responsible for such diverse landmark records as 'Loveless' (which almost got them to declare bankruptcy) and Definitely Maybe only a little later (which in fact rehabilitated them financially). Yeah well, I'm not buying that. You're going to travel all the way to Glasgow and force your way into a club with only a few people present just for the hell of it? Not to mention how much it must have cost them to get there in the first place. . In today's money that trip would maybe cost about 30 quid for petrol so between about 10 of them for the hire of a minibus/van and the petrol, so wouldn't cost that much. Plus that's the kind of thing groups of young lads do - go on mad day trips somewhere getting pissed. Can only imagine being in a band like that would double the excitement of a trip like that too.
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Post by mossy on Feb 13, 2017 10:28:08 GMT -5
Noel never mentions this secret in interviews, but I know from a close source that after a particularly heavy session in 92 he was abducted by aliens while walking home from the Hacienda absolutely mashed out of his skull. Although it wasn't pleasant at the time, the anal probe the aliens gave Noel turned out to have the unexpected side effect of giving him the ability to write amazing melodies and terrace-built choruses. It could be that the aliens were experimenting with ways to achieve world domination by using test subjects such as Noel to build up and brainwash huge followings into reducing their IQs (and hence penchant for rebellion against alien overlords) through the consumption of vast quantities of strong lager and lines of white powders. Fortunately the planned invasion in 97 was thwarted when Noel ejected the probe after a particularly bad bought of food poisoning caught while touring southern America. The resulting album, Be Here Now, caused Oasis to be spurned by critics and fans alike and their spell of influence was broken. It took Noel many years to get his songwriting mojo back, but fortunately we didn't all end up in a planet sized zoo being turned into soylent green to feed the ravenous alien army as they prepared for their next invasion. 👽
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 13, 2017 15:54:46 GMT -5
Yes, they were just lads from Burnage, but also Noel had his contacts, remember, Noel was a roadie for the Inspiral Carpets, so I bet he knew one name or two from the business.
Also of course Noel knew who Alan McGee was, if you read NME and Melody Maker during late 80's and early 90's you would know who was Alan, Tony Wilson, David Balfe...
But to get to Alan, Noel had a whole chain of contacts ahead before talking to him personally, he had to know someone who would talk to someone who would know someone and beyond...
Noel knew that they had to get on Alan's radar, so they went to Glasgow and the rest was history.
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