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Post by footballdropout on Nov 13, 2014 13:36:36 GMT -5
People do have a point, he sounded better on the audience recordings from the 'Liam and Friends' gig a year back than the soundboard but you have to remember audience recordings are what the audience heard - and from the sound of it the audience got a great vocal and a solid performance this time around.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 13, 2014 13:52:48 GMT -5
Liam seems easily to be a "target" for whatever reasons and that's not only happens on "here", I'm sure. Just like the new thread about his voice, keeping "dabating" about his voice and criticize his performance makes me tired and bores me. You can't see a good light if you only focus on a bad light. That's my thought. The fact it happens here is strange tho this is an oasis forum, with its own beady eye section and people come on here to just criticise him. General public might target liam but to go out you way especially as a 'fan' is strange, then basically say the same thing over and over and over (for years on end)
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Post by jordan71421 on Nov 13, 2014 14:06:41 GMT -5
Great video that really has his voice up front and center. Sounds great to me, I'd pay full price to hear him sing like this
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 13, 2014 14:19:10 GMT -5
Ye he does sound really good! Didn't hear it so much in the other video, but definitely a 'higher' sound, hitting all the notes. Nice.
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 13, 2014 14:24:21 GMT -5
Liam seems easily to be a "target" for whatever reasons and that's not only happens on "here", I'm sure. Just like the new thread about his voice, keeping "dabating" about his voice and criticize his performance makes me tired and bores me. You can't see a good light if you only focus on a bad light. That's my thought. it's happening to Noel too. all the time. some around already decided the new single was going to be shit and they kept on BOOING at their screen. I'm quoting you because quoting that Rolo dude, he gets offended and say you're anti-Liam and things fall apart. I've been a Liam (and Noel) fan for 20 years. I even liked those dark festival performances last year even though he was struggling a lot. but he was THERE. he meant it. that My Generation was bland. band looked like vaginas and it feels Liam wasnt there at all. thats why I think it was shit. weird, the people who say it was shit? there's the complete opposite when people say it was GREAT. waiting for the PLUM.
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Post by GerryTheLeper on Nov 13, 2014 15:14:43 GMT -5
People on here are just too tetchy. I said he sounded good but not to get carried away since it was a poor quality recording and had some moron jump down my throat over it. I saw Beady Eye live twice on the last tour and was impressed with his vocal improvement over the last tour. Hope he does more appearances like this during his downtime.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 13, 2014 15:24:38 GMT -5
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Post by nutsngum on Nov 13, 2014 15:35:23 GMT -5
I am a stern critic of his voice, but for 2014, and the it's been through, he sounds great on that first key change. He's still so damn angry though.
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Post by mouth on Nov 13, 2014 15:51:43 GMT -5
even ian brown sounds almost ok on an audience record. and we all know he couldn't hit a single note, even if his life depended on it.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 13, 2014 15:55:35 GMT -5
well he sounded good to the audience ears too, not just their record.
which surely is what a live show about so guess he nailed it
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Nov 13, 2014 16:07:59 GMT -5
even ian brown sounds almost ok on an audience record. and we all know he couldn't hit a single note, even if his life depended on it. I don't see the comparison. Liam has never been as consistently poor as Ian Brown (and I like Ian Brown live and on record) mainly because he is just a better singer.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 13, 2014 16:24:11 GMT -5
I always try not to compare him to others because you just can't and because there's no point in doing so. I'm not a fan of Random Joe, I'm a fan of Oasis so I care what Liams voice sounds like. I don't care if Hansi Hintersehr still sounds good even though he's 60 or whatever.
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Post by bardes on Nov 14, 2014 4:14:31 GMT -5
He nailed it, bitches. Stop complaining.
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Post by Bellboy on Nov 15, 2014 7:52:56 GMT -5
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Post by importantlyidle on Nov 15, 2014 16:05:46 GMT -5
Just heard this, Jesus him and Beady Eye may be done but that was brilliant, he really does need to keep in some kind of project
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 15, 2014 18:04:58 GMT -5
i uploaded Wont get fooled again. I got the substitute, young man blues and johnny vegas. ill upload them tomorrow
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Post by bradhorse on Nov 15, 2014 22:14:59 GMT -5
There's how you do it.
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Post by bradhorse on Nov 15, 2014 22:25:59 GMT -5
You know what? I've just watched the recent performance again in comparison to that video I posted and his vocal isn't that bad.
His main problem in the recent video is confidence. Look at all the face touching and the adjusting of the microphone and putting the hands in the pockets and the fake swaggering and whatnot. I honestly know the absolute basics of psychology and body language and even I can see that that is a very nervous man. He's standing there, knowing he's sounding good and yet is doing everything he possibly can to seem confident yet doing exactly the opposite.
Liam needs his big brother and to be honest his big brother is slowly starting to realise that he also needs Liam.
They're slowly coming back together again. 2016 is going to be an exciting year for you lot.
And to the guy who asked if I'm Paul Gallagher, no. That is conclusive and that's all I have to say about that.
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 15, 2014 22:40:34 GMT -5
You know what? I've just watched the recent performance again in comparison to that video I posted and his vocal isn't that bad. His main problem in the recent video is confidence. Look at all the face touching and the adjusting of the microphone and putting the hands in the pockets and the fake swaggering and whatnot. I honestly know the absolute basics of psychology and body language and even I can see that that is a very nervous man. He's standing there, knowing he's sounding good and yet is doing everything he possibly can to seem confident yet doing exactly the opposite. Liam needs his big brother and to be honest his big brother is slowly starting to realise that he also needs Liam. They're slowly coming back together again. 2016 is going to be an exciting year for you lot. I know what you mean, I took notice of this too, after Oasis broke up he lost some of his confidence, realised that his voice isn't the same as before and he became a bit insecure on stage, also I guess he quit coke too, plus his recent personal problems doesn't help. You can see that Oasis was his life, he will now pass trought a transitional phase in his life both personal and professional, he has to find his feet again.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 16, 2014 2:25:21 GMT -5
You know what? I've just watched the recent performance again in comparison to that video I posted and his vocal isn't that bad. His main problem in the recent video is confidence. Look at all the face touching and the adjusting of the microphone and putting the hands in the pockets and the fake swaggering and whatnot. I honestly know the absolute basics of psychology and body language and even I can see that that is a very nervous man. He's standing there, knowing he's sounding good and yet is doing everything he possibly can to seem confident yet doing exactly the opposite. Liam needs his big brother and to be honest his big brother is slowly starting to realise that he also needs Liam. They're slowly coming back together again. 2016 is going to be an exciting year for you lot. I know what you mean, I took notice of this too, after Oasis broke up he lost some of his confidence, realised that his voice isn't the same as before and he became a bit insecure on stage, also I guess he quit coke too, plus his recent personal problems doesn't help. You can see that Oasis was his life, he will now pass trought a transitional phase in his life both personal and professional, he has to find his feet again. I've noticed that too. Whereas every time there was a big moment before, he would show up. He was the perfect closer. You needed one gig or one great vocal and he could deliver. But I noticed it even with DGSS. How on the televized stuff Liam would fall short or have a random bad performance even though he'd been on fire the previous four or five gigs. He looked especially nervous during jools Holland. The same with X-Factor. The same with the Olympics. I mean, obviously anyone would be nervous at the Olympics, but Liam really looked nervous. Even during SBOTA acoustic. He was happy he nailed it, but you could also see the relief in body that he made it through it. It's not that same swagger. It was especially apparent during TCT because for the first time in a long time, none of Liam's mates were on the stage, not his brother or anyone from Oasis. Just a backing band. He was alone. I think it'd be difficult for most of us to keep that kind of swagger in that position.
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Post by Cast on Nov 16, 2014 23:49:02 GMT -5
I thought he sounded pretty decent. It's the best he's gonna sound in 2014. He'll never be the world class/generational defining singer that he was in the 90's, but he can do a solid job if he just does 3-4 shows a week. On record he's obviously still great.
The confidence, or lack there of is noticeable but its hard for me to have sympathy for Liam. He's made his his bed and now he has to lay in it (both professionally and personally). From a professional standpoint he always should have taken care of his voice earlier and done sound checks. He's obviously going through a tough point in his life, but he's had a hand an influence in each of the major events that have happened the past 5 years.
Thing is, I think once he finds he's footing he'll comeback strong. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. If he shows some hunger that I know he has, then that natural swagger will comeback. I wasn't impressed with Liam's stuff after Oasis but tough times often provide the seeds that led to success. These past few years have probably been some of the most stressful in his life, if not the most stressful. I'm confident Liam will be back to he's normal swaggering self after a little soul searching.
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Post by mememe26 on Nov 17, 2014 19:09:31 GMT -5
Sounds really good on that video. To be honest the song suits him though as it's not so much a singin' song but a shoutin' one. His aggressiveness is cringeworthy though. As is the size of that fuckin' tent he's wearin'.
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Post by Ltrain on Nov 17, 2014 22:27:53 GMT -5
I wonder if him and Eddie Vedder hit it off.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Nov 27, 2014 23:50:16 GMT -5
I think a lot of us are really worried about Liam. Hopefully the rumors that he's circling the drain are just rumors. The media is of NO help at all.
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