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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 10:20:41 GMT -5
A Northern Soul is one of the greatest rock albums ever - History being an all time favourite song of mine, Urban Hymns is magnificent (if a little too pop and Be Here Now-style bloated) and A Storm in Heaven is what Sigur Ros would sound like if they were off the streets of northern England rather than the Icelandic icescapes. Hope Richard can rediscover his genius.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2015 1:09:36 GMT -5
What's the latest on Mad Richard? It's been a long fucking time without any new material or a proper solo album.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 28, 2015 1:22:11 GMT -5
What's the latest on Mad Richard? It's been a long fucking time without any new material or a proper solo album. He has recorded some material but havent heard any updates on that matter. Wish that Richard did differenty things with the guys of the verve, the "solo" album was so bad that I'd thought it was a cop out of his contract.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 8:35:19 GMT -5
I often suspect McCabe was the genius behind the first two albums...
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Post by matt on Feb 28, 2015 12:25:50 GMT -5
Love The Verve but not keen on Ashcroft's solo work. His purple patch in songwriting was Urban Hymns where the rest of the band take a backseat (barring some songs) but as of late, he should seriously consider a Verve reunion and sticking with them for good.
The Verve are a bigger name than Ashcroft. He should realise that the whole is greater than the sum of all parts.
I could see the point if he was the sole songwriter like Noel or Paul Weller and having desires to go solo, but the majority of great frontmen are always better as part of a band and Ashcroft is part of that group.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2015 12:46:00 GMT -5
Love The Verve but not keen on Ashcroft's solo work. His purple patch in songwriting was Urban Hymns where the rest of the band take a backseat (barring some songs) but as of late, he should seriously consider a Verve reunion and sticking with them for good. The Verve are a bigger name than Ashcroft. He should realise that the whole is greater than the sum of all parts. I could see the point if he was the sole songwriter like Noel or Paul Weller and having desires to go solo, but some the majority of great frontmen are always better as part of a band and Ashcroft is part of that group. Yeah......but the band all hate one another. Or I should say, McCabe and Richard.
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Post by Cast on Mar 1, 2015 15:05:04 GMT -5
I think he suffers from some sort of mental illness whether it be depression or something else, and that's why he's been out of the game. This is just my guess, but its a damn shame how quickly he's just vanished.
His solo work is pretty MOR and bland, but he at least sounded like he found some peace in his personal life. It His last album was downright terrible. He's only written one great solo song (Check the Meaning). I personally thought Forth was decent enough for a band that had been out of the game for nearly a decade. Shame the egos got in the way, yet again. The Verve is better than anything else those dudes have done and it is frustrating that they just can't get along because as a unit they really compliment each other.
I'll always look out for Ashcroft's solo stuff but I never really expect much. I hope his personal life is good because at the end of the day that's all that matters. He made 3 great to classic albums but there will always be that "what if" with regard to the Verve. I think after Urban Hymns they really could have been huge. Like their Manchester brothers they fucked up a career defining opportunity.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 1, 2015 16:48:09 GMT -5
I think he suffers from some sort of mental illness whether it be depression or something else, and that's why he's been out of the game. This is just my guess, but its a damn shame how quickly he's just vanished. His solo work is pretty MOR and bland, but he at least sounded like he found some peace in his personal life. It His last album was downright terrible. He's only written one great solo song (Check the Meaning). I personally thought Forth was decent enough for a band that had been out of the game for nearly a decade. Shame the egos got in the way, yet again. The Verve is better than anything else those dudes have done and it is frustrating that they just can't get along because as a unit they really compliment each other. I'll always look out for Ashcroft's solo stuff but I never really expect much. I hope his personal life is good because at the end of the day that's all that matters. He made 3 great to classic albums but there will always be that "what if" with regard to the Verve. I think after Urban Hymns they really could have been huge. Like their Manchester brothers they fucked up a career defining opportunity. I've always wondered what the "proper" follow up to Urban Hymns would have sounded like. Forth was too far down the line to be considered that. The moment had passed. What a great listen Urban Hymns is after all these years. Be Here Now could have used production like that. Not too clouded or over blown. One of the problem Richard has with his solo material is after a while, it sounds kinda "samey". His second LP especially sounded that way excluding Check The Meaning and Runnin Away. The rest sounds like the same song over and over. His third LP had that issue as well.
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Post by Cast on Mar 1, 2015 20:58:14 GMT -5
I think he suffers from some sort of mental illness whether it be depression or something else, and that's why he's been out of the game. This is just my guess, but its a damn shame how quickly he's just vanished. His solo work is pretty MOR and bland, but he at least sounded like he found some peace in his personal life. It His last album was downright terrible. He's only written one great solo song (Check the Meaning). I personally thought Forth was decent enough for a band that had been out of the game for nearly a decade. Shame the egos got in the way, yet again. The Verve is better than anything else those dudes have done and it is frustrating that they just can't get along because as a unit they really compliment each other. I'll always look out for Ashcroft's solo stuff but I never really expect much. I hope his personal life is good because at the end of the day that's all that matters. He made 3 great to classic albums but there will always be that "what if" with regard to the Verve. I think after Urban Hymns they really could have been huge. Like their Manchester brothers they fucked up a career defining opportunity. I've always wondered what the "proper" follow up to Urban Hymns would have sounded like. Forth was too far down the line to be considered that. The moment had passed. What a great listen Urban Hymnes is after all these years. Be Here Now could have used production like that. Very too clouded or over blown. One of the problem Richard has with his solo material is after a while, it sounds kinda "samey". His second LP especially sounded that way excluding Check The Meaning and Runnin Away. The rest sounds like the same song over and over. His third LP had that issue as well. Indeed. I think you just inspired me to put on Urban Hymns, its been awhile since I've listened to it. Maybe a year. The album is just about perfect and really concludes their legacy rather well. I can still remember the magic feeling when I first got into that album. Great song after great song. So many different vibes and emotions throughout it. I think A Northern Soul is the best album that sums them up as a band but Urban Hymns is their best album. Totally agree with your last paragraph. It's such a shame he moved toward the singer songwriter route. I think he could have done great with some more soul influenced stuff. I guess he kinda did that with his last album but it was just really really poor. Music is Power isn't a great song by any means but I like the vibe of the track and the dude has always had some of the best pipes in the world.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 1, 2015 22:33:46 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 1, 2015 23:05:21 GMT -5
I've always wondered what the "proper" follow up to Urban Hymns would have sounded like. Forth was too far down the line to be considered that. The moment had passed. What a great listen Urban Hymnes is after all these years. Be Here Now could have used production like that. Very too clouded or over blown. One of the problem Richard has with his solo material is after a while, it sounds kinda "samey". His second LP especially sounded that way excluding Check The Meaning and Runnin Away. The rest sounds like the same song over and over. His third LP had that issue as well. Indeed. I think you just inspired me to put on Urban Hymns, its been awhile since I've listened to it. Maybe a year. The album is just about perfect and really concludes their legacy rather well. I can still remember the magic feeling when I first got into that album. Great song after great song. So many different vibes and emotions throughout it. I think A Northern Soul is the best album that sums them up as a band but Urban Hymns is their best album. Totally agree with your last paragraph. It's such a shame he moved toward the singer songwriter route. I think he could have done great with some more soul influenced stuff. I guess he kinda did that with his last album but it was just really really poor. Music is Power isn't a great song by any means but I like the vibe of the track and the dude has always had some of the best pipes in the world. I guess it is safe to assume songs like "Song For The Lovers" and "C'Mon People (We're Making It Now)" would have featured heavily on the potential follow up to Urban Hymns.
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Post by captainsoul on Mar 3, 2015 11:40:05 GMT -5
I like this version of "C'mon people (we're making it now)" played by The Verve (without Nick McCabe). It sounds far more rocky than in his first solo album.
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Post by Manualex on Mar 3, 2015 11:43:06 GMT -5
It sounds more rocky but my god that video has too much orange/yellow to be watchable.
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Post by webm@ster on Mar 3, 2015 13:00:23 GMT -5
I think he suffers from some sort of mental illness whether it be depression or something else, and that's why he's been out of the game. This is just my guess, but its a damn shame how quickly he's just vanished. yes he does, he actually addressed the issue last time I saw him live in NYC...he told the audience he was on meds for it...
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Post by Cast on Mar 3, 2015 13:55:12 GMT -5
I think he suffers from some sort of mental illness whether it be depression or something else, and that's why he's been out of the game. This is just my guess, but its a damn shame how quickly he's just vanished. yes he does, he actually addressed the issue last time I saw him live in NYC...he told the audience he was on meds for it... Thanks for the info Webby! I'm glad he is getting help. As someone who knows and has lived with people that suffer from depression its tough. Encouragement and support are the best things. Richard's music has helped me through some tough times as well. I thank him for that. I hope everything in his life is going well regardless of his musical output.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 16:03:51 GMT -5
My favourite of his solo tunes is definitely Break the Night with Colour.... but I never dug his solo stuff.
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Post by matt on Mar 3, 2015 16:25:51 GMT -5
I really enjoy all The Verve albums - even Forth. I still remember Love Is Noise as the soundtrack to my summer in 2008. I wish Oasis had released a song like that during that time - it was fantastic.
A real shame about Ashcroft - his depression has been known for years, here's hoping he finds solace in any music he's creating.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 4, 2015 16:05:14 GMT -5
I really enjoy all The Verve albums - even Forth. I still remember Love Is Noise as the soundtrack to my summer in 2008. I wish Oasis had released a song like that during that time - it was fantastic. A real shame about Ashcroft - his depression has been known for years, here's hoping he finds solace in any music he's creating. Not so much Mad Richard but maybe "Poor Richard" these days......... The Verve kicked some serious butt in their limited time in the music scene. Like you said "Love Is Noise" was a tremendous comeback single and it was one of the no doubt themes of the summer of 2008 along with MGMT's "Time To Pretend". Richard's solo career for me has been very hit or miss. Some definite highlights in there though. - A Song For The Lovers - On A Beach - Money To Burn - C'Mon People (We're Making It Now) - Check The Meaning - Running Away - Break The Night With Colour - Are You Ready? I always found it interesting that Richard, who suffers from some sort of mental illness, is also a huge Brian Wilson guy who also had his mental problems. He even sang on Ashcroft's "Nature Is The Law". That had to be a real career milestone for Richard.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Mar 4, 2015 16:19:56 GMT -5
I read on a Verve fan forum that apparently McCabe is willing to get The Verve back together and that it all depends on Richard now. I don't really now what happened between them and if there is a possible future for the Verve, but I would definitely love it. Still, the most important thing is that Richard and his family are alright. Still, it worries me that we haven't heard anything from him for such a long time (apart from the Dubai performance, my bet is that that was just something to make a bit of money, I don't blame him) .
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Mar 4, 2015 16:30:58 GMT -5
This is the post on the forum: "Hello everyone, its been a while, hope all is good. Anyway Nick McCabe just said this on facebook!!! Nick McCabe: Last I heard albumwise was Richard finishing up with Damon Minchella (couple years back I think), and an Avicii (!) collab. Very quiet of late. We need to play ANS this year IMO. Need some kind of fairy godmother type action to make that happen, ha ha" Let's just pretend we did not read the part with the Avicii collaboration
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 4, 2015 16:33:05 GMT -5
This is the post on the forum: "Hello everyone, its been a while, hope all is good. Anyway Nick McCabe just said this on facebook!!! Nick McCabe: Last I heard albumwise was Richard finishing up with Damon Minchella (couple years back I think), and an Avicii (!) collab. Very quiet of late. We need to play ANS this year IMO. Need some kind of fairy godmother type action to make that happen, ha ha" Let's just pretend we did not read the part with the Avicii collaboration Now I know where Chris Martin got the idea from..................
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 16:53:35 GMT -5
I can't believe it but the prospect of Avicci/Ashcroft actually excites me - probably because I find his solo stuff so predictable that something this strange and out of the blue could be the start of something good.
Or more of his bland pop shite.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Mar 4, 2015 17:09:43 GMT -5
Kinda get the feeling Richard's just enjoying the quiet life with all the money he made from the 2008 album and tour.
I don't keep up with the Verve, so I could be completely wrong.
What I do know is his wife is smoking hot.
God bless.
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Post by matt on Mar 4, 2015 17:50:03 GMT -5
I can't believe it but the prospect of Avicci/Ashcroft actually excites me - probably because I find his solo stuff so predictable that something this strange and out of the blue could be the start of something good. Or more of his bland pop shite. The best thing about indie/ alternative rock is that it seems to translate so well into other genres. Look at Gorillaz - mixing various genres with alternative rock, it's great. Richard"s collaboration with Chemical Brothers was good as well.
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Post by matt on Mar 4, 2015 17:51:41 GMT -5
I read on a Verve fan forum that apparently McCabe is willing to get The Verve back together and that it all depends on Richard now. I don't really now what happened between them and if there is a possible future for the Verve, but I would definitely love it. Still, the most important thing is that Richard and his family are alright. Still, it worries me that we haven't heard anything from him for such a long time (apart from the Dubai performance, my bet is that that was just something to make a bit of money, I don't blame him) . Encouraging news, cheers for the info loel!
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