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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 20, 2014 15:32:03 GMT -5
It seems some people had high hopes that this simple remaster would be a brand new listening experience, with new things added into the mix. I personally believe they've done the right thing, the album is what it is . They've spaced things out, sharpened bits and pieces up and the little things that once sounded lost, now come through clearer than before. Sure it's far from perfect, but when the original isn't, I'm not entirely convinced it should have to be. I would of hated it if they splashed a load of new sounds on it. An album is record of a moment in time, clean things up, but don't try and make it sound new. They wanted to create a nice collection of the whole Definitely Maybe era, not an Audiophile's wet dream.
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Post by thomuk2006 on May 20, 2014 15:35:25 GMT -5
Think top 10.... anyway back on subject... still no one willing to try and point out some clear differences?
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Post by nghfbs on May 20, 2014 16:00:49 GMT -5
No discernible difference in my ears. Been listening through $300 Boss headphones too. I guess, with a gun to my head, I'd say songs like Supersonic sound a tad more "fresh", but that's maybe just buyers remorse.
Not looking forward to the Morning Glory or Be Here Now remasters. I think we'll get shafted on "deluxe" items…I mean do we really need more live versions of songs from Knebworth?
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Post by jaq515 on May 20, 2014 16:21:10 GMT -5
No discernible difference in my ears. Been listening through $300 Boss headphones too. I guess, with a gun to my head, I'd say songs like Supersonic sound a tad more "fresh", but that's maybe just buyers remorse. Not looking forward to the Morning Glory or Be Here Now remasters. I think we'll get shafted on "deluxe" items…I mean do we really need more live versions of songs from Knebworth? Not being judgemental but if you got $300 headphones to then get buyers remorse on a nice 35+ Track download / 3cd deluxe cd package that cost $20 :/
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Post by Headmaster on May 20, 2014 16:26:12 GMT -5
What a proper remaster should do is make the songs less louder and with more dynamics.
If DM Remaster didn't do this, then it failed.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 16:27:27 GMT -5
I honestly believe I could have done a better job, given the resources.
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Post by Fishtank on May 20, 2014 16:31:34 GMT -5
Said it from day 1. Biggest load of money-making ballax codswallop. I pity those who have forked out cos you've been seriously rode senseless up the rear.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 16:39:24 GMT -5
What's the story about the "Slide Away" mix without Noel's background vocals? They were missing on Stop the Clocks and here again. Didn't Noel like them or what? He probably realised that they do the song no favours and just sound embarrassing.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on May 20, 2014 17:00:58 GMT -5
So, can someone tell me what kind of rarities I am missing, because I didn't buy the Remaster?
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 20, 2014 18:09:09 GMT -5
Shame the extended version of Supersonic wasn't released with the set. Didn't even know it existed until a few minutes ago.
"The version [of Supersonic] that’s on [Definitely Maybe] and on the single fades out, but originally that song went for fucking days, with lots of mad guitar, radio interference and all kinds of things. Perhaps we’ll release a full-length version one day." (Noel Gallagher on an unheard extended version of Supersonic, quoted in a 1994 interview for NME reprinted in the NME Oasis 1991 – 2009 Collectors edition magazine, p. 11)
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Post by jaq515 on May 20, 2014 19:02:55 GMT -5
Shame the extended version of Supersonic wasn't released with the set. Didn't even know it existed until a few minutes ago. "The version [of Supersonic] that’s on [Definitely Maybe] and on the single fades out, but originally that song went for fucking days, with lots of mad guitar, radio interference and all kinds of things. Perhaps we’ll release a full-length version one day." (Noel Gallagher on an unheard extended version of Supersonic, quoted in a 1994 interview for NME reprinted in the NME Oasis 1991 – 2009 Collectors edition magazine, p. 11)Also the version of live forever that noel was gutted that the guitar solo was chopped in half for the version we've only ever had
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Post by mkoasis on May 20, 2014 21:17:39 GMT -5
Does anyone know if any actual shops in the US carry the CD? Like somewhere I can pick up the CD, pay for it and take it home? Y know like the old days Went to my HMV and another dealer today to find out just that. Perhaps not surprisingly, there was nothing. No box set, no 3CD version, no single CD, no promo. Glad I ordered it, but its not like I had much option. Like you, I also prefer going to the shops and picking up that exciting release. If I knew that one day it would be much more rare, I would have savoured those moments more.
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Post by LSF on May 20, 2014 22:28:07 GMT -5
After readying that superdeluxeedition review, where they compared the price of it to Blur and Beatles box sets, this is a fuckin' rip off. But I'm still gonna buy it and I hate myself for it.
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Post by bathqueen on May 20, 2014 23:24:55 GMT -5
I think people miss something very important - DM had a very jesusandmarychain feel to it from the beggining. hoping to get a clearer version of RNRstar, C&A and such is just plain wrong.
however, if you hear Whatever & Listen Up - you can hear the difference. the original version were rediculsly loud, any standard speaker would start to buzz after the intro. anyway, i think MG & BHN are better albums for remastring.
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Post by Manualex on May 20, 2014 23:54:52 GMT -5
I for one would love Shakermaker as a Stoner Rock track
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Post by mimmihopps on May 21, 2014 1:58:49 GMT -5
There really is no need for everyone to start a new thread to share their opinion. There's a thread about the remaster already, why can't we keep everything in there? Good point, Lord Vader. I'm merging this thread with "Definitely Maybe Reissue - 19th May" thread now.
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Post by phdutton on May 21, 2014 6:02:57 GMT -5
I honestly believe I could have done a better job, given the resources. No, you couldn't.
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Post by jaq515 on May 21, 2014 6:04:04 GMT -5
Anyone who's ordered the Japanese version mine came this morning
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 21, 2014 6:05:46 GMT -5
Shame the extended version of Supersonic wasn't released with the set. Didn't even know it existed until a few minutes ago. "The version [of Supersonic] that’s on [Definitely Maybe] and on the single fades out, but originally that song went for fucking days, with lots of mad guitar, radio interference and all kinds of things. Perhaps we’ll release a full-length version one day." (Noel Gallagher on an unheard extended version of Supersonic, quoted in a 1994 interview for NME reprinted in the NME Oasis 1991 – 2009 Collectors edition magazine, p. 11)Also the version of live forever that noel was gutted that the guitar solo was chopped in half for the version we've only ever had No, I always thought the version we have is that extended solo (all the demos have a solo the exact same length. I always thought Morris cut this one in half and Noel didn't like it so they put it back.
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Post by beentherenow on May 21, 2014 6:12:14 GMT -5
I hear people argument that it's a remaster NOT a remix however I don't think that's what people are suggesting, they were just expecting something a bit more.
My opinion is they couldn't have messed up the DM legacy (if that's how people are justifying this apparent lack of newness) if they'd tried to be more bold because the original masterpiece is still out their so had some fans not liked what they'd done they could at least go back to the 'classic' version. Just having a slightly louder (if anything) version just offers fans nothing.
I've got the 2003 30th Anniverary remaster of Dark Side of The Moon which sounds quite a lot diffferent to the 2010 remaster. Both are great (as the songs are great) but I much prefer the 2010 remaster however all these different mixes offer die hard fans new ways to listen to their favourite album without taking anything away from the original.
This release sounds like everything Oasis did post 1995....lazy. Going through the motions. It's not a case of people wanting a drum and bass beat added to Digsy's Dinner they just want to hear where the effort has gone in to rewards loyal fans paying another £15 for an album they already have.
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Post by teadrinker on May 21, 2014 6:24:44 GMT -5
Noel is probably the reason there's hardly any difference. I bet he told them to change the absolute minimum.
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Post by jaq515 on May 21, 2014 6:29:39 GMT -5
Also the version of live forever that noel was gutted that the guitar solo was chopped in half for the version we've only ever had No, I always thought the version we have is that extended solo (all the demos have a solo the exact same length. I always thought Morris cut this one in half and Noel didn't like it so they put it back. This is a quote ok wiki but I'm 99% sure Owen Morris says this on the DM docu The demo version of "Live Forever" begins with an acoustic guitar intro. While recording the album version, the record's producer Owen Morris cut out this intro and replaced it with a drumbeat played by McCarroll. Morris further cut a second section in Gallagher's guitar solo. Although Gallagher was upset, Morris felt the part had sounded "a bit like fucking Slash from Guns N' Roses"
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 21, 2014 6:32:58 GMT -5
This has that acoustic guitar intro but has the solo as it is on the album no? I haven't got time to check it now so if you could do it that'd be great ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif)
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Post by jaq515 on May 21, 2014 6:48:02 GMT -5
This has that acoustic guitar intro but has the solo as it is on the album no? I haven't got time to check it now so if you could do it that'd be great ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif) Yes I've heard that demo several times I'm sure I've read an interview with noel saying he's still gutted the full solo wasn't on the track but I could've made that up.
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Post by themanwithnoname on May 21, 2014 6:53:18 GMT -5
Fargk you Noel,Owen Morris and whoever else was responsible for this shit. These idiots had one opportunity to make these AMAZING SONGS sound fresh and MUSICAL but instead they gave us the SAME OBNOXIOUS BRICKWALLED AND CLIPPING shitfest with only some EQ changes. Listen to the needledrops from the 2009 vinyl floating around instead. They could have made these songs more like the vinyl versions(not brickwalled and clipping that is)but crisper and clearer, the way a remaster should do. Idiots who don't care about sound quality,will like these.Really not worth it. Listen to the morning glory remaster some guy posted here It is not perfect,but it is much better in parts from the official cd. Lazy unimaginative farkerz and too bad about the great tunes. Exactly. We're not asking for a remix of the album, just to hear things that we couldn't hear on the original release. That fan-made Morning Glory remaster is brilliant because there are so many layers that you just don't hear on the original album. This is the sort of thing we were expecting from the Definitely Maybe remaster so it's hugely disappointing that they haven't delivered.
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