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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 26, 2013 10:30:01 GMT -5
People settling out of court isn't admitting guilt, if that were the case he would have settled on the second case as well..he didnt and he was proven innocent. Some lawsuits can last for years, at the time his reputation was still good, dragging out a lawsuit case for paedophilia wouldn't have done much good for someone of his fame and reputation. Lennon and Elvis werent on trial for anything. Lennon admitted himself to beating his wife - Fact.
Elvis went after 14 year old girls..isnt that also considered paedophilia? also a fact. I don't mind your opinion on MJ, everyone has their opinion fair enough. The only thing I don't understand is that you praise Lennon and Elvis when what they have done, as things stand is much worse than what MJ has done considering MJ was proven innocent and the other 2 did what they did. Choosing to believe he did otherwise is your opinion but again, facts are facts..OJ has nothing to do with this  WTF? To be honest I don't think you know what you're talking about really, you've just read he met Prascilla when she was 14 and have put 2 and 2 together tryng to sling some mud at the King as to make MJ's issues seem more reasonable? I mean really? This the same girl who he eventually married and who he continues to support until this very day? If Elvis was this raving pedo you seem to think he was where are all these other girls stories? You'd think there would be quite a few? but there's none at all is there? You telling me Elvis courting prescilla for a few years, waiting for her to come of age and then marrying her is in anyway comparable with Jacko having sleep overs with young boys, and then paying one of them off? I don't see it, personally. I have heard and read other stories actually www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1261082/The-Kings-troubling-obsession-Elvis-woman-So-able-form-relationships-virginal-girls.htmlwww.express.co.uk/expressyourself/166926/Elvis-and-his-girlsThats just to name a few |
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Post by WirralRiddler on Nov 26, 2013 11:31:47 GMT -5
Quoting a newspaper which is nicknamed the DAILYFAIL is not going to cut it with me mate, sorry.
But where are all the claims of wrong doing and the lawsuits being bought against the Presley estate? For it to be a crime surely there must be a victim, where are all these 'victims' you speak off? You'd think they would all be trying to get a piece of his fortune would you not?
Where as Jacko has had a few allegations made against him, with more in the pipeline apparently. And all involving young boys.
Please don't try to tar Elvis with the same brush, its not even close to being in the same ballpark.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 26, 2013 11:35:09 GMT -5
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Nov 27, 2013 12:05:47 GMT -5
People settling out of court isn't admitting guilt, if that were the case he would have settled on the second case as well..he didnt and he was proven innocent. Some lawsuits can last for years, at the time his reputation was still good, dragging out a lawsuit case for paedophilia wouldn't have done much good for someone of his fame and reputation. Lennon and Elvis werent on trial for anything. Lennon admitted himself to beating his wife - Fact.
Elvis went after 14 year old girls..isnt that also considered paedophilia? also a fact. I don't mind your opinion on MJ, everyone has their opinion fair enough. The only thing I don't understand is that you praise Lennon and Elvis when what they have done, as things stand is much worse than what MJ has done considering MJ was proven innocent and the other 2 did what they did. Choosing to believe he did otherwise is your opinion but again, facts are facts..OJ has nothing to do with this WTF? To be honest I don't think you know what you're talking about really, you've just read he met Prascilla when she was 14 and have put 2 and 2 together tryng to sling some mud at the King as to make MJ's issues seem more reasonable? I mean really? This the same girl who he eventually married and who he continues to support until this very day? If Elvis was this raving pedo you seem to think he was where are all these other girls stories? You'd think there would be quite a few? but there's none at all is there? You telling me Elvis courting prescilla for a few years, waiting for her to come of age and then marrying her is in anyway comparable with Jacko having sleep overs with young boys, and then paying one of them off? I don't see it, personally. i've read the same thing as you about Elvis and Priscilla's relationship. Priscilla's pushing 70 but i'd probably still fuck her... God bless. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 27, 2013 22:00:26 GMT -5
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Nov 29, 2013 13:12:16 GMT -5
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Dec 2, 2013 14:56:44 GMT -5
two of Elvis' favorite books were The Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus and The Physician's Desk Reference, Pill Guide.
God bless.
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Post by manicsfan on Dec 2, 2013 15:41:44 GMT -5
I don't rate Michael Jackson and Elvis is really overrated.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Dec 5, 2013 10:13:21 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 5, 2013 11:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 7, 2013 0:45:41 GMT -5
Ewok Jackson.   |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Dec 10, 2013 19:13:46 GMT -5
Elvis had a black belt in karate.
God bless.
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Dec 10, 2013 19:43:39 GMT -5
What kind of an idiot would think that either of those two overrated manufactured singers , would compare to the greatest songwriting team in history?
The truth is that Elvis never wrote a single quality song by himself.He is not even an artist in my opinion, just a very good singer.
The super overrated MJ on the other hand wrote only a handful of really good tunes in his career and there are lots of rumors that he often paid to have his name on the writing credicts of most of his songs.Have you ever seen him play the quitar or the piano anywhere in his whole career?
His music is really one dimensional and relies on rhythm and visuals to get the point across on most cases.Some good songs in his solo career yes, but to compare him artistically with the beatles is so stupid, that it is not even funny.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Dec 10, 2013 20:05:45 GMT -5
What kind of an idiot would think that either of those two overrated manufactured singers , would compare to the greatest songwriting team in history? The truth is that Elvis never wrote a single quality song by himself.He is not even an artist in my opinion, just a very good singer. The super overrated MJ on the other hand wrote only a handful of really good tunes in his career and there are lots of rumors that he often paid to have his name on the writing credicts of most of his songs.Have you ever seen him play the quitar or the piano anywhere in his whole career? His music is really one dimensional and relies on rhythm and visuals to get the point across on most cases.Some good songs in his solo career yes, but to compare him artistically with the beatles is so stupid, that it is not even funny. who in the hell do you think you are, Sir Walter Raleigh? i'm just kidding, i just wanted to say that. The Beatles were no doubt the most talented artists listed, but Elvis really did popularize rock n' roll.... before Elvis, rock n' roll was taboo and even he had a hard time making it mainstream. not to mention, he was one of the main inspirations for the Beatles and he could handle his fair share of ludes and greenies. God bless. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 10, 2013 20:39:58 GMT -5
True story. Quentin Tarantino was once an extra on the TV show " Golden Girls". He played an Elvis impersonator.  |
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Post by WirralRiddler on Dec 11, 2013 4:50:39 GMT -5
What kind of an idiot would think that either of those two overrated manufactured singers , would compare to the greatest songwriting team in history? The truth is that Elvis never wrote a single quality song by himself.He is not even an artist in my opinion, just a very good singer. The super overrated MJ on the other hand wrote only a handful of really good tunes in his career and there are lots of rumors that he often paid to have his name on the writing credicts of most of his songs.Have you ever seen him play the quitar or the piano anywhere in his whole career? His music is really one dimensional and relies on rhythm and visuals to get the point across on most cases.Some good songs in his solo career yes, but to compare him artistically with the beatles is so stupid, that it is not even funny. A very good singer? An exceptional singer you mean. And singing is an art form as far as I'm aware. Which means Elvis was an artist, and a very good too who basically influenced everyone who followed him. Who cares about songwriting? Surely the important bit is how the song comes across to the listener, not who wrote it. I mean any old knob head can write a song, but not many can put a song across like Elvis could. Really boils my piss when people dismiss him as an overrated manufactured singer, its just so wide of the mark its not even funny. Why do these people think the likes of The Beatles, the stones, the who, Hendrix, Led Zep etc etc were all massively into Elvis? They're obviously a bunch of idiots too i assume? |
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Dec 11, 2013 9:17:26 GMT -5
[/quote]Who cares about songwriting? Surely the important bit is how the song comes across to the listener, not who wrote it. I mean any old knob head can write a song, but not many can put a song across like Elvis could.
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You can't be serious about this.That is the most idiotic thing i have heard concerning music.Lots of people can sing like elvis or the beatles for that matter.But no one can write classic melodies with the consistency that the beatles did.
The beatles and all the others were influenced by the style of elvis and nothing else.Were would elvis would be without all the good songs that were written for him? You don't have to be very smart to understand that the composer is the real artist and not the singer.
By the way,the beatles were both.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 11, 2013 9:30:16 GMT -5
I wish Elvis talked to me on a daily basis. |
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Post by WirralRiddler on Dec 11, 2013 10:46:21 GMT -5
If you say so mate. Elvis' voice was phenomenal with such a wide vocal range, lots of people can sing like Elvis my arse they can, and especially no one in The Beatles, not even close to be honest. I get what you're saying about the songwriting, of course its a major plus if you can write and perform your own songs which the Beatles did, I am not slagging the Beatles, I'm just trying to fight Elvis' corner if you will, and i take exception to him being labelled a manufactured singer. He would take other peoples songs and improve them with his voice. He did that, he wasn't told to do it that way. That was his talent. Sure he couldn't write songs like The Beatles did, but like you say who could? But surely you can admit that the Beatles can't hold a candle to him in the singing department, so you know, swings and roundabouts. Singing is a talent as much as songwriting is. Oasis are sort of the perfect example really, Noel wrote all the great songs, but they would not be as great if not for Liams voice. Both are important. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 11, 2013 10:50:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2013 11:22:44 GMT -5
Who cares about songwriting? Surely the important bit is how the song comes across to the listener, not who wrote it. I mean any old knob head can write a song, but not many can put a song across like Elvis could. [/quote] You can't be serious about this.That is the most idiotic thing i have heard concerning music. Lots of people can sing like elvis or the beatles for that matter.But no one can write classic melodies with the consistency that the beatles did. The beatles and all the others were influenced by the style of elvis and nothing else.Were would elvis would be without all the good songs that were written for him? You don't have to be very smart to understand that the composer is the real artist and not the singer. By the way,the beatles were both. [/quote] You make a very interesting point and case .....I have long since said Sinatra and Elvis were stylists , but to be fair also artists , because Paul anka wrote and sang "my way " but it bombed .... Frank made it his own that takes art .....just a different kind of art , much like impressionist art is different than modern and so on ......jmo |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Dec 11, 2013 12:03:25 GMT -5
Elvis is alive and well in Texas...
God bless.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 11, 2013 15:33:07 GMT -5
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Dec 11, 2013 19:22:40 GMT -5
Elvis is my homeboy...
God bless.
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Post by matt on Dec 11, 2013 21:35:32 GMT -5
Elvis and Lennon were in the movie Forrest Gump - Jackson was not.
Therefore, on that basis, Jackson is the loser.
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