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Post by clashmusic on Jun 5, 2013 10:51:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 10:55:05 GMT -5
Thanks ...nice review as well ...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 11:44:24 GMT -5
Interesting, nice review as kalas said...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 11:58:34 GMT -5
Interesting, nice review as kalas said... You know tk One thing I gotta say ....as long as I've followed them which is from the start like alot of us ...one thing about Liam never changed he always says outside the band , he loves Noel ... It's the band that gets in way , shame really , I guess if they ever get by that who knows ?? But it ain't happened yet for the Davies brothers so I ain't holding my breath .... Just hoping Apologies to Lennon2217 but I don't like moving forward . But that's just my nature
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 5, 2013 12:00:10 GMT -5
Interesting, nice review as kalas said... You know tk One thing I gotta say ....as long as I've followed them which is from the start like alot of us ...one thing about Liam never changed he always says outside the band , he loves Noel ... It's the band that gets in way , shame really , I guess if they ever get by that who knows ?? But it ain't happened yet for the Davies brothers so I ain't holding my breath .... Just hoping Apologies to Lennon2217 but I don't like moving forward . But that's just my nature Listen kalas, like Taylor says:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:29:25 GMT -5
who wants oasis when we've got beady eye and high flying birds?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:40:35 GMT -5
I do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:41:19 GMT -5
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Post by alwaysnow on Jun 5, 2013 13:08:58 GMT -5
who wants oasis when we've got beady eye and high flying birds? I don't, better to have both sides happy and releasing their music, their way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:15:22 GMT -5
who wants oasis when we've got beady eye and high flying birds? I don't, better to have both sides happy and releasing their music, their way. That's a fair point man no doubt .....but let me just spin it the other way , I think John and Paul made better music together , as did Pete and roger , waters and Gilmore , the Davies brothers ,, point is being happy is great but sometimes conflict and opposing opinions make for more diverse , different and better , rawer material , hell I remember Keith saying there was a time in there heyday when he and mick agreed on nothing and were miserable , but there creativity was at its apex they were not always the " glimmer twins " just a thought
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:17:41 GMT -5
I like Noel and Beady Eye have some pretty good tunes now as well but I'd take Oasis back in a heart beat. If Noel and Liam got themselves together and were both dedicated to make the best album possible. You can't beat Liam singing Noel's songs
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Post by Bruno on Jun 5, 2013 13:31:25 GMT -5
We got 18 years of music from Oasis but people just have to accept that it's over now. You can choose to be hung up on the past but then you won't be able to truly enjoy the great music we've been getting recently and in that case you'll be missing out on a lot IMO. I'd love an Oasis reunion(who wouldn't) but then again I'd also love a Beatles reunion, but we just have to accept the fact that both aren't going to happen any time soon.
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Post by alwaysnow on Jun 5, 2013 14:04:44 GMT -5
That's a fair point man no doubt .....but let me just spin it the other way , I think John and Paul made better music together , as did Pete and roger , waters and Gilmore , the Davies brothers ,, point is being happy is great but sometimes conflict and opposing opinions make for more diverse , different and better , rawer material , hell I remember Keith saying there was a time in there heyday when he and mick agreed on nothing and were miserable , but there creativity was at its apex they were not always the " glimmer twins " just a thought I get you, think you're right and guess Oasis benefitted from this in the 90s. I loved the band and each of their records so I can't even play the "the last few records were uninspired" card, but if things weren't working between the brothers, I prefer to look on the bright side of what's happening, and I enjoy that too. Of course I miss Oasis, but I'd rather they don't spoil their legacy with the constant fighting, and we are still getting great music from both of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 14:46:11 GMT -5
We got 18 years of music from Oasis but people just have to accept that it's over now. You can choose to be hung up on the past but then you won't be able to truly enjoy the great music we've been getting recently and in that case you'll be missing out on a lot IMO. I'd love an Oasis reunion(who wouldn't) but then again I'd also love a Beatles reunion, but we just have to accept the fact that both aren't going to happen any time soon. Totally get what your saying Bruno , and no doubt your entitled to that opinion .you know I kept open mind , I like what I heard , don't love , but love the voice , like off at the next ... I would well and truly be able to enjoy it if I thought it was as good TO ME ITs NOT . but both ( noel or bdi) are not in my opinion , not a critisism it's better than most garbage out there , I accept its over not choosing to be hung up in past , but I would enjoy it as much as OASIS if it was as good , to me it is not , they both seem to miss that bit extra , not being hung up on past in my part ( and know not directed at me ..but from one who feels that way ) just feel its pretty good , not as good as they could be together IMO Past got nothing to do with that ...for me Edit : Bruno .... I know you did not post that because of my view which I know you know all to well mate I just wanted to post a opinion that is not based on what you said even though I fit the criteria you mentioned. .... I gave bdi a chance with open mind as promised feel Liam sings great off at next very good ...but it misses something just as HFB does , that to me OASIS never missed not even my least favorite lp DOYS that's All mate
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Post by Bruno on Jun 5, 2013 20:55:47 GMT -5
We got 18 years of music from Oasis but people just have to accept that it's over now. You can choose to be hung up on the past but then you won't be able to truly enjoy the great music we've been getting recently and in that case you'll be missing out on a lot IMO. I'd love an Oasis reunion(who wouldn't) but then again I'd also love a Beatles reunion, but we just have to accept the fact that both aren't going to happen any time soon. Totally get what your saying Bruno , and no doubt your entitled to that opinion .you know I kept open mind , I like what I heard , don't love , but love the voice , like off at the next ... I would well and truly be able to enjoy it if I thought it was as good TO ME ITs NOT . but both ( noel or bdi) are not in my opinion , not a critisism it's better than most garbage out there , I accept its over not choosing to be hung up in past , but I would enjoy it as much as OASIS if it was as good , to me it is not , they both seem to miss that bit extra , not being hung up on past in my part ( and know not directed at me ..but from one who feels that way ) just feel its pretty good , not as good as they could be together IMO Past got nothing to do with that ...for me Edit : Bruno .... I know you did not post that because of my view which I know you know all to well mate I just wanted to post a opinion that is not based on what you said even though I fit the criteria you mentioned. .... I gave bdi a chance with open mind as promised feel Liam sings great off at next very good ...but it misses something just as HFB does , that to me OASIS never missed not even my least favorite lp DOYS that's All mate Nah man, not directed at you. Just making a general statement.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 21:40:43 GMT -5
Totally get what your saying Bruno , and no doubt your entitled to that opinion .you know I kept open mind , I like what I heard , don't love , but love the voice , like off at the next ... I would well and truly be able to enjoy it if I thought it was as good TO ME ITs NOT . but both ( noel or bdi) are not in my opinion , not a critisism it's better than most garbage out there , I accept its over not choosing to be hung up in past , but I would enjoy it as much as OASIS if it was as good , to me it is not , they both seem to miss that bit extra , not being hung up on past in my part ( and know not directed at me ..but from one who feels that way ) just feel its pretty good , not as good as they could be together IMO Past got nothing to do with that ...for me Edit : Bruno .... I know you did not post that because of my view which I know you know all to well mate I just wanted to post a opinion that is not based on what you said even though I fit the criteria you mentioned. .... I gave bdi a chance with open mind as promised feel Liam sings great off at next very good ...but it misses something just as HFB does , that to me OASIS never missed not even my least favorite lp DOYS that's All mate Nah man, not directed at you. Just making a general statement. Nah I knew that:). Just didnt want you thinking I was being defensive is all ..I actually like much more than I thought and Am glad I keptt open mind . I tend to be set in ways ...just wanted to give my view on why I thought it would be better the old way , lol
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Post by Ash & Debris on Jun 5, 2013 22:26:41 GMT -5
Why does Liam think Noel has been writing songs about him his whole life? Which songs are those? We must've never heard them because I don't really think any oasis songs are particularly about Liam.
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jun 6, 2013 2:15:09 GMT -5
Why does Liam think Noel has been writing songs about him his whole life? Which songs are those? We must've never heard them because I don't really think any oasis songs are particularly about Liam. Acquiesce?
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Post by Ash & Debris on Jun 6, 2013 2:39:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Acquiesce is about Liam. There's plenty of song in oasis catalogue about dependence, need, love, soulmate searching, etc. Liam must have a very unhealthy God-complex if he truly believes every one of them is actually about him.
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jun 6, 2013 2:56:43 GMT -5
Liam has had a God complex since 1994. It's one of the things people love/hate about him. And for the record I think Acquiesce is about their relationship.
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Post by agnhi on Jun 6, 2013 4:01:48 GMT -5
Well in all fairness lots of Noel's songs are quite vague. I mean he rarely has clearly dedicated them to any certain person(or changed his mind later like Wonderwall lol), he uses a lot of "you" instead of he/she/a name, the themes in a lot of them could be read either as love/family/friend/soulmate...
So there could easily be songs about Liam that are just not explicitly about him so that fans could draw direct and clear conclusions. And Liam could either be just assuming they're about him, or there could be something in there that makes it clear for him but not for us(say, a reference to a discussion they had, an event that occurred etc) or Noel has mentioned it to him at some point.
My point being, we as listeners have not much to work on, it's all down to interpreting, but Liam's been there when the songs were made and recorded, and he's known Noel all his life, so at least he surely can know better than we do.
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Post by thomas09 on Jun 6, 2013 7:47:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Acquiesce is about Liam. There's plenty of song in oasis catalogue about dependence, need, love, soulmate searching, etc. Liam must have a very unhealthy God-complex if he truly believes every one of them is actually about him. It's obvious acquiesce is about Liam.. Also I don't think he meant every single song Noel writes is about Liam either. One of the best things about music is that people can interpret it anyway they like. If Liam chooses to interpret a song as being about him then so what? Wouldn't call it an unhealthy God-complex.
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Post by thetruth on Jun 6, 2013 11:58:08 GMT -5
Rock N roll star is about Liam isn't it ?
On STC, Noel jokes that Liam thinks all Noel's song are bout him. But I think some can actually be about him. Like obvisouly Acquiesce.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 12:04:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Acquiesce is about Liam. Bang on ...... I have a foggy memory but I know what I heard and saw , and on either a interview or one of my vh tapes Noel specifically said he did not write that song for Liam at all .... He used the term we need each other as euphamysm in life , I ain't stoned its what he said , your right , maybe he was bullshitting but he sounded rather emphatic
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 6, 2013 12:48:56 GMT -5
Yeah Noel said on the STC interview that Liam said to him "all your songs are about me ain't they?" to which Noel replied "No." Colin Murray also asked him if Rock 'n' Roll Star was about Liam and Noel said no.
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