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Post by thetruth on Jun 6, 2013 13:05:11 GMT -5
Yeah Noel said on the STC interview that Liam said to him "all your songs are about me ain't they?" to which Noel replied "No." Colin Murray also asked him if Rock 'n' Roll Star was about Liam and Noel said no. When Noel says something it's not set in stone. He changed his mind about the meaning of Wonderwall didn't he? Music is for intepretation. Noel is not the kind of guy who will say "yes Rock and Roll star and Acquiesce are about you Liam, how about a hug ?" He said no because he doesn't want to explain his song too much. But if you want to think RNR star is about Liam, you have a right to. It's a possibilty, a huge possibilty. Noel saying it isn't, is not a explanation of the song by any mean. Art is not always conscious for the artist, that's what interesting about it, we can read what we want in it, and that's why we can relate to it.
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 6, 2013 13:15:02 GMT -5
True words. I don't think Noel has written more than a handful of songs and actually known what they're about. I think he usually makes it up afterwards after looking at the lyrics and pulling something out of his ass that fits the general theme of the lyrics. Although there are obvious exceptions like If I Had A Gun, Slide Away, etc. I was just observing that Noel himself has denied writing songs about Liam, but you're right that means little
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 6, 2013 13:17:37 GMT -5
I mean, he said Up In The Sky was about Government oppression on the Definitely Maybe DVD. I highly doubt he was thinking that at the time, he probably made that up after thinking "Yeah that could fit!"
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Post by gdforever on Jun 6, 2013 15:12:17 GMT -5
That's part of what makes Noel's song writing great. Songs like Rock 'n' Roll Star or Don't Go Away or Acquiesce could be about so many people. It's relatable from so many peoples points of views. Rock 'n' Roll Star is song for anyone that's ever given their dreams a shot or excelled at anything they love. Don't Go Away is for anyone that has ever lost or almost lost someone. Acquiesce could be about any relationship where the participant are better of together than apart. Sure it could be about Oasis, but it could also be about every loving relationship from a best friend to a romantic relationship to a partnership with Noel and Liam's that any person is in.
That theme of writing about a universal theme is something that carries through from DM to HFB for Noel. And it's one of the reasons I think that he says he changes the lyrics if the meanings are too specific to him. He works to make them vague enough that any of us could put ourselves into the place of the songs protagonist. Understandable that Liam sees a mirror of his own life in Noel's songs...don't we all to a certain extent?
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 6, 2013 15:20:20 GMT -5
I agree. He often says its about whatever you want it to be, because they are such open, universal lyrics. E.g. to me, Champagne Supernova is about dying, but not in a doom & gloom way. In a 'I'll see you in the afterlife' kinda way, but not in a religious way. It sounds almost spiritual to me (an I'm not a spiritual person by any means). That's why I'm having it played at my funeral
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Post by olesiadudnik on Jun 6, 2013 19:20:03 GMT -5
I heard that "girl in San Francisco" was actually Kennedy-- ya know, that MTV VJ. Hey don't blame me, that's what I heard!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 19:24:00 GMT -5
I heard that "girl in San Francisco" was actually Kennedy-- ya know, that MTV VJ. Hey don't blame me, that's what I heard! Kennedy . Haven't heard that name for years (excluding the obvious ) ... Always too pretentious to me , but hey guess she was popular ....." Talk about a where are they now '"waiting to happen"
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 6, 2013 21:11:33 GMT -5
I'm on the side that Liam is right about this one for multiple reasons. Noel frequently does change what he says songs are about, but some things I've noticed: - On the drunken interview in 1997 on Radio One, Noel specifically says he's written songs about him - I read one interview where Noel spoke to the fact that in order to create songs that Liam could deliver authentically, he wrote them for a character that was basically "NoelLiam" - Some of the songs are written after certain instances and basically read as a transcript of what happened. I've always thought "Don't Go Away" was about the incident after Noel fled America - I don't care how many times he says it was about Bonehead's mom, I don't buy it. I think he quickly says sensitive songs are for one mom or another to avoid looking soft.- Talk Tonight - some of the lyrics are perhaps directed towards the girl in SF, but some of them basically are completely about the fight they had ie "You took your last chance once again." And I do think that, at least early on, Noel credited Liam with "saving his life" (in multiple interviews he credits him with giving him the opportunity to be in a band and thus find success. I don't think every song is by any means, but I do thing a great many songs have a line or two that can be taken that way, whether thrown in as part of the natural creative process, as a result of something that happened, or simply to create a song that Liam could latch onto emotionally. Or it was just this
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 7, 2013 9:02:57 GMT -5
Aha, was just watching his most recent interview where he explicitly states "I write a song and after I finish it I decide what it's about"
Clears that one up
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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 9, 2013 1:04:48 GMT -5
That review is spot on -
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