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Post by thomas09 on Feb 23, 2012 14:24:17 GMT -5
Just did a quick mash-up of these 2 songs on audacity, they are practically identical. exact same tempo (both drum beats stay in line throughout) and the vocal melody's are almost identical. even the chords and key is the exact same. kind of shocked he put both songs on the album tbh... www.sendspace.com/file/ageilp |
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Post by Bellboy on Feb 23, 2012 14:29:49 GMT -5
Too much time on your hands man. Leave the songs alone.
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Post by thomas09 on Feb 23, 2012 14:31:46 GMT -5
only took 2 minutes, its not as if i had to alter the tempos or anything
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Post by andymorris on Feb 23, 2012 14:53:19 GMT -5
That's correct (bar the melodies unlike you said), yet the songs are very different. Shows how you can write million of songs with the same chords, structure and tempo.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Feb 23, 2012 15:04:11 GMT -5
I recall someone pointed out the same about The Turning & High Horse Lady having near identical chorus vocal melodies the week after DOYS came out.
I really enjoy Soldier Boys but have only listened to Wrong Beach a few times, very average sounding song and by far the weakest on the LP, IMO.
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Post by gdforever on Feb 23, 2012 15:14:27 GMT -5
The vocal melodies are different.
I like the transitions in that sections of the album. SB&JF-BA-SOTWB. They flow great into one another. Wonder if that is the result of consistency in tempo and keys?
I actually think SOTWB is great and SB&JF is one of the worst on the album.
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Post by Swarfiga on Feb 23, 2012 15:39:36 GMT -5
Funny how different it is from person to person. I think Stranded On The Wrong Beach is one of the best songs on the album.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Feb 23, 2012 15:43:44 GMT -5
Funny how different it is from person to person. I think Stranded On The Wrong Beach is one of the best songs on the album. Yeah it's one of my favourites on the album. |
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Post by gdforever on Feb 23, 2012 15:53:12 GMT -5
Funny how different it is from person to person. I think Stranded On The Wrong Beach is one of the best songs on the album. It was in the middle for me until I heard it live. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 23, 2012 15:53:46 GMT -5
I used to think of SBAJF as the worst song on the album, but I've really started liking it, more than TWB. I like the transitions in that sections of the album. SB&JF-BA-SOTWB. They flow great into one another. Wonder if that is the result of consistency in tempo and keys? Funnily enough I think that this section is the biggest weakness of the album  those three are too close together for my taste. |
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Post by rupertg on Feb 23, 2012 15:58:47 GMT -5
the album is def top heavy
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Post by Jago88 on Feb 23, 2012 16:00:20 GMT -5
stranded on the wrong beach is my favourite hand down on the album
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Post by gdforever on Feb 23, 2012 16:07:55 GMT -5
I used to think of SBAJF as the worst song on the album, but I've really started liking it, more than TWB. I like the transitions in that sections of the album. SB&JF-BA-SOTWB. They flow great into one another. Wonder if that is the result of consistency in tempo and keys? Funnily enough I think that this section is the biggest weakness of the album those three are too close together for my taste. Broken Arrow and SOTWB are both great IMO. SB&JF is a bit useless definitely an album track but it flows well and they can't all be killer. I live the saw and the bongos on BA. It's great. And the melody is amazing. Sometimes it's my favorite tune on the album. Album is pretty well balance for me. DO, SB&JF, STC are the three worst. And they are at beginning middle and end. |
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Post by warewolf95 on Feb 23, 2012 16:15:38 GMT -5
wow
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Post by Cast on Feb 23, 2012 18:09:13 GMT -5
SBAJF is actually one of my favorites a nice mix between "When I'm Sixty Four" and "Sunny Afternoon" with a bit of dark quirkiness to it. SOTWB is probably the weakest track off the album but its listenable and its not horrible by any means, its a bit plodding but its got a catchy bit and its nice to hear Noel sing a more powerful track.
With regard to their similarity. Noel and other artist for that matter, have a made songs with the exact same chords but they change the melodies, atmosphere to create a whole new product. The melodies for both tracks are solid and even when Noel is on autopilot on say a song like THT he can turn out pretty solid and catchy melodies. He is second to none in my books as a melodist.
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Post by truefaith on Feb 23, 2012 18:16:21 GMT -5
He used the same chords in Wonderwall, DYKWIM, Whatever, IIAG and Talk tonight if I remember right. So it's not a big deal.
The two songs are very different in style and melody to me.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Feb 24, 2012 8:12:38 GMT -5
SOTWB and SB&JF are both highlights for me!  |
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 24, 2012 8:22:45 GMT -5
i could point out 20 songs in which noel used quite the same chords. it's noel folks
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 24, 2012 10:05:12 GMT -5
SBAJF is the weakest on the album by far. Whereas I bloody love SOTWB. Funny how that works considering they are "the same."  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 10:12:41 GMT -5
i could point out 20 songs in which noel used quite the same chords. it's noel folks ;D Yes. I know lots of people who play guitar suggest the same! |
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Post by andymorris on Feb 26, 2012 2:19:57 GMT -5
Chords are only chords, they are to serve a melody, they are not the song.
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Post by bluemagpie on Feb 26, 2012 3:38:29 GMT -5
i could point out 20 songs in which noel used quite the same chords. it's noel folks ;D Yes. I know lots of people who play guitar suggest the same! He's got about 8 favorites ;D I'm actually amazed at what he can do with them. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Feb 26, 2012 8:18:27 GMT -5
Em7 G B7 and Asus4 (sometime A7sus4), Cadd9 are ALL essential. Pretty much the chords in Wonderwall will get you through a LOT of songs haha
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Post by thomas09 on Feb 26, 2012 8:49:59 GMT -5
i think its the plodding drum beats that makes the album sound repetitive. i played the album to my friends in the car one day, theyre all massive oasis fans and once we got to the 5th song one of them said "once youve heard one you've heard them all" and in a way its kind of true
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Post by headshrinker84 on Feb 26, 2012 10:56:35 GMT -5
i think its the plodding drum beats that makes the album sound repetitive. i played the album to my friends in the car one day, theyre all massive oasis fans and once we got to the 5th song one of them said "once youve heard one you've heard them all" and in a way its kind of true Just admit it Noel's album is far better than Beady eye's And i like Beady eye's album but Noel is just a better songwriter than LAG simple as. |
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those three are too close together for my taste.
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