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Post by spaneli on Feb 26, 2012 13:21:59 GMT -5
SB&JF is okay. For me it's the weakest song on the album. But when you have an album with RM, IIHAG, EOTR, WAL, BA, and TDOYAM, then there's not much shame in being the weakest song. I really like the lyrics in SB&JF (some of Noel's best) and I like the gloomy army bugle boy aspect of the song. I could imagine it being played on some "jukebox" in some kind of old school army base bar. But for me, SOTWB is the better song. I love the fact that Noel come out with more of a power voice, rather than the falsetto which he has become so accustomed too and what has become his vocal trademark. It's an extremely catchy song, especially in the last chorus with the clap track. It really sounds like it could have been one of those early MG b-sides. Classic Noel imo. thomas, different people like different things, but I really do feel as if this album is perfect for the casual Oasis fan. We could all bring out the "I've played it to a few people" bit. I could say that I've played to a few casuals as they all loved the album and some non fans who have never brought an Oasis album when played the album all bought it. But in the end, we all have different opinions and so do the people we play it too. I have no problem with the drums. Noel's voice is good, the melodies are good, even the lyrivd are pretty good. Drums are the least my problems tbh
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Post by spaneli on Feb 26, 2012 13:24:46 GMT -5
Em7 G B7 and Asus4 (sometime A7sus4), Cadd9 are ALL essential. Pretty much the chords in Wonderwall will get you through a LOT of songs haha Let's not forget Dsus2 or Dsus4
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Post by gdforever on Feb 26, 2012 13:25:04 GMT -5
i think its the plodding drum beats that makes the album sound repetitive. i played the album to my friends in the car one day, theyre all massive oasis fans and once we got to the 5th song one of them said "once youve heard one you've heard them all" and in a way its kind of true They thought that EOTR, DO, IIHAG, TDOYAM, and RM all sounded like the same song? Really. Forgive me if I don't particularly rate your friends musical comprehension.
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Post by thomas09 on Feb 26, 2012 13:31:49 GMT -5
Just admit it Noel's album is far better than Beady eye's And i like Beady eye's album but Noel is just a better songwriter than LAG simple as. I love both albums, but I don't even think they can be compared. Noel was the chief songwriter in oasis but his solo songs are nothing like an oasis song, he's got a totally different style now, which is understandable since he said he cannot sing rock songs. Beady Eye's songs are closer to the oasis songs but still miles off. But on the otherhand noel's album does sound more like an oasis album, because of dave sardy and noel getting the final say in production/mixing throughout oasis. I still dont think people can say one is better than the other though because both albums have totally different aims. Liam wants a rock n roll sounding album whereas noels going more for the acoustic/melodic route. It'd be like saying R.E.M. is better than the prodigy: it makes no sense cos they're totally different acts, which is what NGHFB and beady eye are
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Post by spaneli on Feb 26, 2012 13:50:21 GMT -5
Just admit it Noel's album is far better than Beady eye's And i like Beady eye's album but Noel is just a better songwriter than LAG simple as. I still dont think people can say one is better than the other though because both albums have totally different aims. Liam wants a rock n roll sounding album whereas noels going more for the acoustic/melodic route. It'd be like saying R.E.M. is better than the prodigy: it makes no sense cos they're totally different acts, which is what NGHFB and beady eye are I have never gotten that school of thought. I've always subscribed to school of thought that music is meant to be compared. That's one of the great things about music. Music is music, whether is psychedelic, rap, soul, jazz etc. The chords, the melodies, the rhythm, the beats. They all come from this family of music. Music is meant to be compared. It's why it's music imo.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Feb 26, 2012 14:16:09 GMT -5
Em7 G B7 and Asus4 (sometime A7sus4), Cadd9 are ALL essential. Pretty much the chords in Wonderwall will get you through a LOT of songs haha Let's not forget Dsus2 or Dsus4 Yes, those too. They're vital ;D
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Post by truefaith on Feb 26, 2012 14:42:13 GMT -5
Just admit it Noel's album is far better than Beady eye's And i like Beady eye's album but Noel is just a better songwriter than LAG simple as. I love both albums, but I don't even think they can be compared. Noel was the chief songwriter in oasis but his solo songs are nothing like an oasis song, he's got a totally different style now, which is understandable since he said he cannot sing rock songs. Beady Eye's songs are closer to the oasis songs but still miles off. But on the otherhand noel's album does sound more like an oasis album, because of dave sardy and noel getting the final say in production/mixing throughout oasis. I still dont think people can say one is better than the other though because both albums have totally different aims. Liam wants a rock n roll sounding album whereas noels going more for the acoustic/melodic route. It'd be like saying R.E.M. is better than the prodigy: it makes no sense cos they're totally different acts, which is what NGHFB and beady eye are Noel has left rock off because he can't sing it. But it's not true his album sounds different from Oasis. His album sounds exactly like an Oasis album minus the rocker, wich is why it's a little boring. It's all mid tempo typicall Oasis. The only song that doesn't sound like Oasis is WAL. Noel solo is Oasis without rockers and Liam's voice, otherwise there's no difference at all. Since BDI also sounds like Oasis and makes a lot of mid tempo sngs as well, I gues we can compare them on mid tempo songs at least.
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Post by thomas09 on Feb 26, 2012 14:45:18 GMT -5
I still dont think people can say one is better than the other though because both albums have totally different aims. Liam wants a rock n roll sounding album whereas noels going more for the acoustic/melodic route. It'd be like saying R.E.M. is better than the prodigy: it makes no sense cos they're totally different acts, which is what NGHFB and beady eye are I have never gotten that school of thought. I've always subscribed to school of thought that music is meant to be compared. That's one of the great things about music. Music is music, whether is psychedelic, rap, soul, jazz etc. The chords, the melodies, the rhythm, the beats. They all come from this family of music. Music is meant to be compared. It's why it's music imo. ok thats fair but its like if you're going to compare a heavy metal album, compare it to another heavy metal album. not a pop album. it's the same in this case (although obviously neither is heavy metal ) i just do not see the point in comparing noel to beady eye when the two have total different goals. the way i see it is so what if BE has better rock n roll tunes than NGHFB? thats not what he was going for, its irrelevant. same applies to noels tunes.
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Post by thomas09 on Feb 26, 2012 14:48:06 GMT -5
Since BDI also sounds like Oasis and makes a lot of mid tempo sngs as well, I gues we can compare them on mid tempo songs at least. yeah i agree but its not really fair to compare them on albums as a whole when they're totally different
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Post by Peace Love & Bananas on Feb 27, 2012 16:25:51 GMT -5
You can totally sing While My Guitar Gently Weeps over Stranded on the Wrong Beach.....I've been waiting for someone to do a remix of those two. Any takers? I'm too lazy and don't have the time for it.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Feb 28, 2012 13:36:08 GMT -5
Stranded on the wrong beach, for me, is up there with some of his best modern work. Very rocky - can only imagine what Liam would have added to it
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