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Post by deadman on Sept 23, 2011 16:58:35 GMT -5
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 23, 2011 17:09:01 GMT -5
fuck that sucks.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 23, 2011 17:11:47 GMT -5
I was going to say that it was, at the very least, a well researched piece but then I got to the part where he mentioned DBTT was in 2004. In actuality, I think this review is poor, and not due to the rating alone. It's clear that the reviewer just simply doesn't like the style, which is his prerogative, but that prerogative led him into a predisposed thinking, in my opinion. He was never going to like it because it's not aggressive enough for him. Which is fine, but then at least review the songs on their own merit instead of criticizing it for personal reasons. We all knew Noel wouldn't write songs with energy like FLW or Cigs and Alc because that's not the type of singer he is. Haters be mad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2011 17:12:17 GMT -5
You have to remember that, as always with the mainstream press, it loses at least one star for being involved with Oasis. If it's not Revolver it's shit.
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Post by deasy on Sept 23, 2011 17:12:18 GMT -5
Ouch
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Post by gmajor7 on Sept 23, 2011 17:15:33 GMT -5
This review says TDOYAM is by far the best thing on it. I think most people on this forum already violently disagree with that, so there's no reason we'd agree with the rest of his opinions either...
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 23, 2011 17:18:06 GMT -5
I was going to say that it was, at the very least, a well researched piece but then I got to the part where he mentioned DBTT was in 2004. In actuality, I think this review is poor, and not due to the rating alone. It's clear that the reviewer just simply doesn't like the style, which is his prerogative, but that prerogative led him into a predisposed thinking, in my opinion. He was never going to like it because it's not aggressive enough for him. Which is fine, but then at least review the songs on their own merit instead of criticizing it for personal reasons. We all knew Noel wouldn't write songs with energy like FLW or Cigs and Alc because that's not the type of singer he is. Haters be mad. Largely agree with that. I must say, I was hoping that writers would at least try to avoid the lazy "Noel versus Beady Eye" angle. Other than that, I think it's a pretty well written review - and he obviously likes parts of the Oasis sound. I often wonder this - how are albums distributed in music magazines? If writer A was known to be a guitar fan, does he or she get the Oasis album to review over someone who's vocally not a fan? EVERYONE is going to have one predisposition or other towards artists of Noel's size.
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Post by manualex on Sept 23, 2011 17:23:07 GMT -5
To answer the Q'... I think someone is just jealous of someone elses' wealth and that" is free to do whatever he wants to do".
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Post by GIMH on Sept 23, 2011 17:28:22 GMT -5
Well I've not heard the album yet so I can't call him out on the score. The Liam V Noel stuff is predictable and will swing both ways, but Liam will benefit more from that simply because his record was released first - if critics don't like Noel's then all of a sudden they will like Beady Eye's, regardless of what they wrote at the time (see also SOTSOG reviews saying the band hadn't improved from the decline that began with Be Here Now, despite Be Here Now getting reviews a million times more positive than Morning Glory did).
So I imagine I'll like Noel's album better than he does, but I'll wait and see. He does come across as one of those lazy oasis journalists though. I think you all know what I mean.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2011 17:33:23 GMT -5
Liam will benefit from his album being unexpected. I think the vast, vast majority of critics (and a fair number of fans - myself included) thought it would be absolute dogshit and it ended up being a very pleasant surprise, if not a classic. A classic is demanded from Noel.
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Sept 23, 2011 17:33:25 GMT -5
He doesn´t like If i had a gun: this review is shit.
And again: why the fuck i had 12 karma yesterday and 4 karma today? Haters gonna hate i suppose. I tell you one thing boys and girls: the leak is imminent
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 23, 2011 17:37:33 GMT -5
Liam will benefit from his album being unexpected. I think the vast, vast majority of critics (and a fair number of fans - myself included) thought it would be absolute dogshit and it ended up being a very pleasant surprise, if not a classic. A classic is demanded from Noel. Absolutely.
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Post by mmario on Sept 23, 2011 17:40:46 GMT -5
It's the same reviewer who gave DOYS 3/5. Only RS rated it lower, so there's nothing to worry about
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Post by spaneli on Sept 23, 2011 17:42:54 GMT -5
Gonna post this for every review good or bad.
Reviews really don't matter to me. I remember when the DGSS reviews came out and everyone was falling on every word. It wasn't as good as some people were making it out to be, it wasn't as bad as some were either. Everyone has different taste.
In the end, all that matters is what you hear coming out of your speakers that will determine whether it's good or not.
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Post by noelliamnoel on Sept 23, 2011 17:44:49 GMT -5
Despite the fact I hate this review, the Dream On lyrics do sound dreadful..."oh me oh my I'm running out of batteries"?? ...oof, Noel, come on.
I know it's too soon to judge, but I don't see any way a word like "batteries" can be sung melodically
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Post by thuperthonic on Sept 23, 2011 17:46:34 GMT -5
Where exactly has the "zip and zest" of Beady Eye's debut album got them?
Fuck off, Uncut.
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Post by anaximander on Sept 23, 2011 17:47:47 GMT -5
This the most annoying type of review - most of it does not discuss the music or the songs, just the background cliches. The writer makes it clear in the opening paragraphs that he's not reviewing the album on its own terms - he's reviewing in comparison to the album he thought Noel should make. If Record Machine is nearly as good as the demo, then this album will be pretty good even if the rest of the songs we haven't heard are not great.
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 23, 2011 17:49:55 GMT -5
Gonna post this for every review good or bad. Reviews really don't matter to me. I remember when the DGSS reviews came out and everyone was falling on every word. It wasn't as good as some people were making it out to be, it wasn't as bad as some were either. Everyone has different taste. In the end, all that matters is what you hear coming out of your speakers that will determine whether it's good or not. As an add to that, there's nothing wrong with a reviewer critisizing an album if it's well written, well researched and entertaining to read. Most Oasis reviews did NOT have that as we know! At least this reviewer takes a stance and backs it up.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 23, 2011 17:50:40 GMT -5
Where exactly has the "zip and zest" of Beady Eye's debut album got them? Fuck off, Uncut. And even UNCUT wasn't that complimentary of Beady Eye. They only gave them 6/10.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2011 17:51:18 GMT -5
I guarantee that whoever wrote that will never enjoy music like an Oasis fan hearing Slide Away live for the first time enjoys music.
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Post by gmajor7 on Sept 23, 2011 17:51:23 GMT -5
It's the same reviewer who gave DOYS 3/5. Only RS rated it lower, so there's nothing to worry about I'm now more worried, as I pretty much 100% agree with that review...
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 23, 2011 17:54:26 GMT -5
It's the same reviewer who gave DOYS 3/5. Only RS rated it lower, so there's nothing to worry about I'm now more worried, as I pretty much 100% agree with that review... Don't be. Relax - you're a Noel Gallagher fan, and you like the first songs you've heard from this album. It's going to be really good!
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 23, 2011 17:57:34 GMT -5
Where exactly has the "zip and zest" of Beady Eye's debut album got them? Fuck off, Uncut. A sold out tour in many countries and top three album in their own. That's more than most artists get in their lifetimes. Relax!
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Post by J.B on Sept 23, 2011 17:58:49 GMT -5
He doesn´t like If i had a gun: this review is shit. And again: why the fuck i had 12 karma yesterday and 4 karma today? Haters gonna hate i suppose. I tell you one thing boys and girls: the leak is imminent People who smite Karma are the most pathetic people imaginable. There used to be someone who smited my karma religiously but luckily for my karma and the sanity of the board he doesn't post on here very often anymore.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 23, 2011 18:02:12 GMT -5
Gonna post this for every review good or bad. Reviews really don't matter to me. I remember when the DGSS reviews came out and everyone was falling on every word. It wasn't as good as some people were making it out to be, it wasn't as bad as some were either. Everyone has different taste. In the end, all that matters is what you hear coming out of your speakers that will determine whether it's good or not. As an add to that, there's nothing wrong with a reviewer critisizing an album if it's well written, well researched and entertaining to read. Most Oasis reviews did NOT have that as we know! At least this reviewer takes a stance and backs it up. I think the bad part of his review is that I don't know what point he's trying to make or back-up. Partly is frustrated that it all comes too "easy" for Noel. Secondly, I'd say maybe 15% of the review was actually judging the songs. His point if there ever was one was lacking in what I call an actual argument. You have to argue your point, for it to be good. His opinion, but it's poorly argued opinion imo. That's my last post on this. I can't talk for any extended period of time on a review that doesn't matter.
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