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Post by janelr on Feb 7, 2018 11:10:42 GMT -5
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Post by janelr on Jan 25, 2018 13:24:31 GMT -5
Here, I remembered reading this from an older thread: live4ever.proboards.com/post/1365635/threadNov 23, 2016 14:39:47 GMT -5 Casino Boogie said: Here's the text of the letter from Mojo issue 141 (August 2005 issue) Theories, rants, etc. ‘Attn. Noel Gallagher’ Don’t Believe The Truth is an amazingly ironic title of the latest Oasis album. Imagine my horror after reading the account of Oasis’s journey in the making of (What’s The Story) Morning Glory [Mojo 139], that Noel Gallagher claims not to remember my name and dismisses our encounter with, “she’s a character in one of the Morning Glory songs, and that’s it.” Secondly, Tim Abbot refers to me as an “Oriental”. Tsk, Tim. I know it’s been 11 years since Noel and I met, but I seem to recall being both a therapist and lover during a time when he clearly needed at least the former. Yes, he was in bad shape after the Whisky A-Go-Go fiasco and told me that he was on the next plane out of Los Angeles to stay with me in San Francisco. Upon Noel’s arrival at my Victorian apartment next to a Laundromat, not a “brownstone above an antique shop”, as Tim remembered (though his version gave it more dramatic flair), Marcus Russell was ringing me and threatening that he’d call the authorities if I didn’t divulge where Noel was. OK, so I lied to him and told him that the last thing Noel told me was that he was on his way to Vegas. I was only looking out for Noel as he was burned-out and telling me that he’d had enough of the band. What he needed was to have a proper meal and dry out for a few days and to talk things through with someone who was an unbiased party. Our “relationship” fizzled out after a couple of months, as he met Meg Mathews. During one of our transatlantic phone conversations I greeted him with, “Hey, what’s the story mornin’ glory?” I’m also responsible for being the gal with the Snapple Strawberry Lemonade obsession in Talk Tonight. Unfortunately, after a disappointing reunion with Noel backstage at the Fillmore in San Francisco, in my naively wishful state I also told him that I wouldn’t look back in anger with everything that’s happened between us and that I hoped to remain friends. I heard that song while grocery shopping in Safeway not too long ago and wished I’d skipped that moment of backstage despair. I do wish the band well. Contrary to bad PR, Liam was always a gentleman to me. I hope they can somehow regain the momentum they lost after painting their masterpiece. Melissa Lim, San Francisco
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Post by janelr on Jan 22, 2018 19:22:10 GMT -5
I guess I'll have to take your word for it. I'm too young to remember if Sir Paul McCartney's reputation ever sunk to the point that everyone thought he was finished in the business and became the butt of jokes. I think that's where Liam rose from and that the success of AYW is what's given him a new lease on life in the business. Had the album not been received well and Liam's reputation not been revived, I don't think he'd sell out big shows even with the Oasis songs. I think a big part of the hype is the overall narrative of his comeback.
If you are interested, I'd highly recommend looking at the Press to Play to Flowers in the Dirt era. The more I think of it, the more comparable the two scenarios are. Actually go back a bit further to the Give My Regards to Broadstreet movie that McCartney made in 1984. The movie was widely derided by critics. It was an enormous failure both critically and commercially. The most generous reviews typically saw it as being the product of a former trend-setter now being out of step with the times. Not quoting the whole thing, and thank you, that's all very interesting. But for now, I can only speak on Liam and I do believe the success of AYW pulled him and his image out of the dumpster, which was necessary before he could sell out any large venues. Whatever McCartney's career disappointments were, I doubt he was ever labeled the talentless Beatle who got carried to success on the back of his bandmate. That's not a barrel he's ever been in. But pre 2017, all but the most ardent Liam fans thought his voice was done for and that he needed Noel. No way he's selling out arenas on his own. But AYW has energized LG and created a path towards a different narrative -- one that includes a younger generation who think the geezer's pretty cool. Sure, Oasis plays a big part in Liam's legacy as a rock star...but I think that's something he needed to reclaim and AYW and all that's come with it (well received interviews and live shows, good reviews, award nominations, etc.) has done that, in my opinion, and should be given it's just dues.
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Post by janelr on Jan 22, 2018 13:08:56 GMT -5
But were they ever in the position of having being written off for dead like Liam? "As You Were" and all that came with it essentially made it OK (for the masses) to like and support Liam Gallagher again in my opinion. It gave him new life. That's the significance of it.
Yes, I'd say so. I think that McCartney, certainly in the years between Press to Play in 1986 and the Flowers in the Dirt tour in 1989, is a pretty comparable example, except the Flowers in the Dirt tour was more massive in comparison to what Liam is doing but that's not surprising.
I guess I'll have to take your word for it. I'm too young to remember if Sir Paul McCartney's reputation ever sunk to the point that everyone thought he was finished in the business and became the butt of jokes. I think that's where Liam rose from and that the success of AYW is what's given him a new lease on life in the business. Had the album not been received well and Liam's reputation not been revived, I don't think he'd sell out big shows even with the Oasis songs. I think a big part of the hype is the overall narrative of his comeback.
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Post by janelr on Jan 22, 2018 11:49:21 GMT -5
Hate to repeat but simple question: when Paul McCartney or Elton John release a new album and then play to a crowd of, say, 60,000 people, is a significant part of the reason why they have crowds that big the strength of their latest album? But were they ever in the position of having being written off for dead like Liam? "As You Were" and all that came with it essentially made it OK (for the masses) to like and support Liam Gallagher again in my opinion. It gave him new life. That's the significance of it.
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Post by janelr on Jan 18, 2018 11:12:39 GMT -5
Being on Warner would make some difference. However Liam's album & PR is far stronger than Noel's at the moment. I believe Noel's tour not selling out is partly down to Liam being back so people can get their Oasis fix there rather than Noel. That's true for me. Many of us don't have deep pockets of disposable income and lord knows I've spent all of mine on Liam already.
Also Liam seems to have really widened his audience more than Noel. There's been a noticeable change in how he's perceived probably from around the time since Supersonic was released and the good will has grown with every interview he's given. I've seen loads of kids at Liam's shows who probably weren't even born yet during Oasis' heyday. They think he's cool. And real. And flawed. Plus the album's good too.
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Post by janelr on Jan 2, 2018 11:48:43 GMT -5
I was lucky enough to be front row for this, really excited to see the broadcast! For US viewers, it's scheduled to air on PBS Sunday night, January 7th with multiple repeat airings after. Time and channel might be different in other areas though. For your local schedule, check here by entering your zip code and cable provider www.frontandcenter.com/liam-gallagher/
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Post by janelr on Jan 2, 2018 11:47:08 GMT -5
I was lucky enough to be front row for this, really excited to see the broadcast! For US viewers, it's scheduled to air on PBS Sunday night, January 7th with multiple repeat airings after. Time and channel might be different in other areas though. For your local schedule, check here by entering your zip code and cable provider www.frontandcenter.com/liam-gallagher/
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Post by janelr on Nov 30, 2017 15:11:41 GMT -5
Someone commented “Liam would play with the kid onstage” and Sara replied “unless he had a cold” I think she deleted it. Someone had commented that she should take her husband's advice and take a deep breath before pressing send.
I'm more curious about the postal service over there. Noel only posted his response to the first letter two days ago. Does fan mail really reach him that quickly?!
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Post by janelr on Nov 30, 2017 11:17:33 GMT -5
I hope Liam stays off Twitter for a bit. If Sara wants to stay clear of the fray, she should stop making public comments like this. People looking for a reaction. Dont respond Liam. It was unnecessary for her to take a dig but she’s a smart woman, a lot of people will see it. I can only imagine how many will @ Liam with SS. Here’s to 🤞that he doesn’t react this time. I feel a bit like Noel to Liam near the end of the Supersonic documentary when their father tries to stir things up; "Do not react. Don't fucking react. You're not going to react!" Haha
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Post by janelr on Nov 30, 2017 9:04:52 GMT -5
I hope Liam stays off Twitter for a bit. If Sara wants to stay clear of the fray, she should stop making public comments like this. People looking for a reaction. Dont respond Liam. tbh it's funny, liam can take it. Problem is it kinda undermines Noel's complaints about Liam doesn't it. I mean you can't dish it out online then cry foul when you get it back. Yeah, I just don't want Liam to overreact and shoot himself in the foot for something dumb. Which they'd probably like actually.
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Post by janelr on Nov 30, 2017 8:34:55 GMT -5
I hope Liam stays off Twitter for a bit. If Sara wants to stay clear of the fray, she should stop making public comments like this. People looking for a reaction. Dont respond Liam.
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Post by janelr on Nov 29, 2017 21:17:59 GMT -5
You guys are aware that Liam has that medical conditions that affects his voice? I wouldn't blame it on him or saying he is a diva, that is quite arrogant. I understand the personal disappointment behind it though, but still - Liam's probably risking losing his voice for good if he pushed through with singing if he ain't fit. And did you ever try to sing if you had a proper cold? It's absolutely impossible and really hurts. enlighten us - what is the condition called and how many years has he had it? See my links above on hashimoto's disease. He mentioned it in a couple of interviews, sorry I can't remember which. But I think he said it went undiagnosed for years.
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Post by janelr on Nov 29, 2017 20:54:30 GMT -5
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Post by janelr on Nov 29, 2017 20:39:24 GMT -5
Noel wouldn't have cancelled for a cold. Yes I said it, attack if you want. I should be in DC right now. New York was too important for him not to miss. But would a cold affect Noel's singing and health as much as Liam? That's an actual question, not a dig. I don't know that much about hashimoto disease and if that plays into it at all but I understand it affects the immune system. So there's that to consider.
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Post by janelr on Nov 29, 2017 18:39:40 GMT -5
I believe he was sick since Minneapolis like he claimed (my friend was at the Riviera in Chicago and had felt something was slightly off) but also that he got better in between Toronto and New York. I was at Toronto and he got a lot of shit for not making it to the final encore. So if he's not currently at 100% then I think his team made the right decision and I like to think I'd still have that opinion even if I'd been going to the cancelled cities. I guess I'm just really sick of reading "he's lost it, shit voice" comments on YouTube videos. I just want him to take good care of his voice like he should've been doing all along.
So I'm just gonna blame whoever is responsible for scheduling.
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Post by janelr on Nov 29, 2017 13:39:54 GMT -5
Fucking hell, the "Shit Meg" thing really did do some damage :/ If he's that angry at Liam then come out with the exact reason... while the "shit meg"comment was unnecessary as well as other comments.. (Not justifying liam) they really don't warrant that kind of hostility and malice towards Liam. There's definitely more than the just the obnoxious twitter comments. I remember the "shit Meg" comment and you're right it was unnecessary but I imagine worst things have been said in person from both sides. Also just because Noel's platform for insults isn't Twitter doesn't make it all that different really, in my opinion. But what's all the stuff about his children? Unless I missed something, I've never seen Liam take a dig at Noel's kids on social media.
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Post by janelr on Nov 29, 2017 12:52:40 GMT -5
Sounded good. Perfect track to perform live with the guitars etc. proper rocking. Job done well by the band. Still strange that Fallon still mentioned the cancelled gigs(you would think he has been told about that before) and there is no word on Liams Twitter I've been to a Fallon taping and it's usually done late afternoon. They tape at Rockefeller Plaza and I saw some fan photos of Liam in midtown from yesterday in the same parka/hat getup. I'm guessing he checked in with the doc after and made the decision last night. His people posted his statement on Facebook. Nothing on Liam's twitter is strange, but hey, maybe know he's still under the covers. That's what I do when I call in sick
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Post by janelr on Nov 29, 2017 11:18:45 GMT -5
Liam recorded Fallon today. Has it aired yet? So sorry for everyone who is missing out on these shows and had travel plans 😥 Happened to me once when my husband and I flew out to NYC to see Morrissey and he cancelled a few hours before show time... 🙄 With mercurial artists like Liam and Mozza the unpredictability is almost part of the ride, which sucks when plane tickets and hotels are involved :/ The couple of times I've flown out of town to see Liam, I've made sure I had other things on the agenda so it's not a total waste just in case. I totally get that it's a big disappointment when an event you've been looking forward to gets cancelled, but honestly I'd rather get him when he's well up to it than walk out of the gig thinking well that was a big letdown, his energy was low, voice was crap, and he couldn't even make it to the encore. It'd just leave a bad memory I'd rather not have.
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Post by janelr on Nov 28, 2017 22:59:53 GMT -5
If the Fallon performance convinced him he couldn't handle two more shows, it'd be understandable. I guess I'm not picturing him as calculating as some seem to think. His label? Yeah, they probably demanded he complete the biggest gigs and then they let him off the hook. But that's not on him. Yeah, one song in a tv studio is doable I'd expect, versus fourteen in a gig environment. And now that I've seen Liam perform up close (at McKittrick and Rough Trade), he really is like a boxer entering a ring up there. The amount of energy he expends in that one hour is probably more than what I expend in a typical day at the office.
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Post by janelr on Nov 28, 2017 21:51:04 GMT -5
Second thought...can we assume NYC Terminal 5 was his biggest show of the tour? Thus, they cashed out at the top, knicked DC/Philly for rest? Gotta do separate West Coast/East Coast legs in the future. Damn I’m pissed. I don’t see him coming back to do a SE leg to add these cancelled shows to (Nashville, Atlanta, Orlando, Miami, Dallas, Houston, etc). He should have gone ahead and cancelled his Philly and dc gig this weekend... I'm still wondering how he will be able to do the UK tour since it's just as tight as the us one I got the feeling they were playing it by ear. Waiting to see how spent he was after New York before deciding if it'd be wise to continue or to get fully well before the UK tour starts. Which is another worry...but maybe there's less travel fatigue touring the UK than the US? I hope so anyway. I'm planning to catch him in Manchester at the end of the tour, so crossing my fingers.
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Post by janelr on Nov 28, 2017 21:36:06 GMT -5
I feel really bad for the Philly and DC fans -- I flew to the Toronto gig last week and Lolla over the summer so I'm familiar with disappointment resulting from Liam's unpredictability. And as much as I loved being at last night's show, Liam might've just really pushed it going full throttle for New York. I have to give him credit for giving it all he had, but then knowing when to put on the brakes. I can't imagine why he would cancel for the heck of it. He can't win either way; if he continues on and then delivers subpar performances the rest of the tour he'd get crap thrown at him anyway and it'd be on YouTube for eternity.
Also I thought he was short on breath a few times during Come Back to Me, and I recall him sitting down once or twice during the gig in the middle of songs. The dude isn't 25 anymore, he's probably exhausted from the bus travel and the varied climate changes across America during his tour stops. They just need to do a better job at spacing out his gigs in the future.
Anyway, here's a couple of vids I took last night if anyone's interested:
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Post by janelr on Nov 25, 2017 10:29:24 GMT -5
Hey guys does anyone have video from Liam walking on-stage in Toronto? He gave me a high five and I’d love to see if someone caught it on video! TIA! I did, but from the balcony so a bit far off. You can see him reach down though. Here's my video
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Post by janelr on Nov 17, 2017 11:25:03 GMT -5
My guess he's talking about Noel saying that Liam legitimizes the internet hate his side's been getting. I suppose Noel's not accustomed to the kind of hate that's been spewed at Liam's side for years now that the tables are turning.
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Post by janelr on Nov 15, 2017 17:15:47 GMT -5
Using Google translate, here's the controversial section: HUMO: I quote from your new bio: 'Liam now only has the right to exist as a potential organ donor for his more talented older brother.' Did your mother read that? Gallagher «No, she does not give a fuck. She is tired of our bickering, but she has resigned herself. And it is true: if I am ever shy about some bone marrow or kidney after an accident, then, and only then, I will call Liam. "Knock on wood that this joke (if it was said in jest) never comes back to haunt him. Not that Liam would deny Noel if it ever came to that, I don't think he'd even think twice about answering the call if Noel needed him like that.
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