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Post by World71R on Jan 11, 2023 21:56:30 GMT -5
Look at 1:50... These guys are the best and Molly Rankin is the LOML...
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Post by World71R on Jan 8, 2023 23:40:50 GMT -5
I'd hope the strings are full blast in the mix to be honest. Not like Ballad of Might I where they are mixed so low. Although I wanted another collaboration with David Holmes, with a bit more technicolor sonic experimentation, I think if Noel is to do something a bit more traditional, then I just hope it's fun and he throws the kitchen sink at it. Unlike drab dreary and dreadfully dull records like the debut and Chasing Yesterday. Noel has a habit for this. Some incredible instrumentals get bizarrely lowered in the mix in favour of about 20 guitar tracks and it wasn't always the right choice. I think that's why the David Holmes stuff was so refreshing. A lot of the songs were so bright and vibrant and weren't just guitars + drums + bass focused on with some of the extra layers plucked into the mix. Like, Noel often brickwalled some of the songs with things like acoustic guitar and piano layers that were there to keep the melody but also sounded terrible when there were other things going on. Even EOTR is a good example of this. You can hear the choirs and strings sections but the bass + piano combo is mixed so high up that when moments like the bridge with the strings come up, you don't fully feel how powerful it is.
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Post by World71R on Jan 8, 2023 23:05:44 GMT -5
Bridge over Troubled Water was so close to be perfect. So sad that is kind of unfinished, it had potential to be top 5 albums of all time. Wait, actually? I never knew that tbh. Enlighten me lol
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Post by World71R on Jan 3, 2023 23:22:14 GMT -5
Yeah. He was calling everyone wallpaper music by 1979/1980. I've relistened to Double Fantasy not so long agao and it really sounds dated, in a bad way. 'Woman' is a good song (I used to listen to it all the time as a teenager) but damn, the production is very inoffensive and bland (those plodding drums...) As much as I really like 'Watching the Wheels', it's the same way. Lennon was putting out dad rock by the time he died and I think his music would've only taken a further dive in the '80s. A Beatles reunion like would've happened but the songs may not have been as good as people wanted them to be. I'd argue Lennon's death somewhat helped preserve the mythological aspects of himself and The Beatles.
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Post by World71R on Jan 3, 2023 23:09:00 GMT -5
I like I'm Outta Time and think it's a good song, but I wish the chorus was less Lennon-like and more of Liam shining. I think there was a demo floating around somewhere or a radio performance that does justice for what I'm talking about. Liam's rough but tender and vulnerable voice shines without so much double-tracking and work on it. That said, Let There Be Love gets my nod. I think it's a sweet song with just enough Beatlesque touch to let the brothers put their own spin on it and drive it home. The stop-start nature of it is comforting and lovely, especially after an album full of raucous tunes. It's a nice ending on that note. The only sin is that it doesn't fade into I Can See it Now! on DBTT... Yes you're right there is a demo of I'm Outta Time floating around somewhere. I'm not sure where it was released though, maybe one of the b'sides on the cd single? This is it: As someone brought up, Liam's more worn out voice works really well in singing this song here. It adds a sense of humanity to this song that I think gets lost in the studio version.
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Post by World71R on Jan 3, 2023 0:23:55 GMT -5
I like I'm Outta Time and think it's a good song, but I wish the chorus was less Lennon-like and more of Liam shining. I think there was a demo floating around somewhere or a radio performance that does justice for what I'm talking about. Liam's rough but tender and vulnerable voice shines without so much double-tracking and work on it.
That said, Let There Be Love gets my nod. I think it's a sweet song with just enough Beatlesque touch to let the brothers put their own spin on it and drive it home. The stop-start nature of it is comforting and lovely, especially after an album full of raucous tunes. It's a nice ending on that note.
The only sin is that it doesn't fade into I Can See it Now! on DBTT...
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Post by World71R on Jan 3, 2023 0:19:05 GMT -5
TNOR has a great instrumental. The lyrics bring it down. PAITM is just annoying from the melody, lyrics, Liam and Noel's vocals, and production. It's one of the worst material they've ever done. Yea PAITM sounds like somebody writing a song based on the actually psychedelic music they heard while sober. TNOR sounds like it was going somewhere but the lyrics got caught up in the vibe too much and faltered. PAITM is the epitome of the lack of inspiration Noel was feeling in the Heathen Chemistry. When Noel told interviewers the only two records he owned were I Am the Walrus and the Sex Pistols, that tells me everything about where his head was at writing HC.
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Post by World71R on Jan 3, 2023 0:13:43 GMT -5
The NFL has been overdue for some sort of watershed moment, from an injury standpoint, and tonight might've been the night.
We can hope at least. The sanctioning body needs to do better than telling teams to suit up and play within five minutes of seeing one of their players get taken away in an ambulance after needing CPR...
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Post by World71R on Dec 31, 2022 17:16:59 GMT -5
I'm not really into playlists but if that's the occasion for people to discover new (or new old) music then fair enough. Noel seems a bit obsessed by Manchester Lately. I think that even goes back to the Moon? era. A lot of Noel's more electronic leanings have some distinct New Order and acid house influences in there (She Taught Me How to Fly feels like an awesome love letter to them).
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Post by World71R on Dec 31, 2022 17:15:09 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry is far and away the worst Oasis album, no contest.
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Post by World71R on Dec 31, 2022 17:13:11 GMT -5
Definitely. It starts off rocking and sounding really cool but then the lyrics, the stop-start nature of it and how it plods along just feels like a drag. I like the solo in the song and I hear its potential, for how it kinda sounds like Tame Impala if you stripped back the distortion and make it a little blues-ier. Even still, I feel like the song needs the distortion and edge to interplay with Liam's vocals and make it the psychedelic thoughtpiece it's trying to be. Yeah, I totally agree with you, the song has a good start but then it goes down hill fast and that's the problem with it. It would have been much better if it had been an even shorter song than what it actually is I think instead of letting it plod along like it does. Suggestion: Cut to the guitar solo after the first verse. After the solo, have the second verse, third chorus and outro.... Then make it a B-side or a Beady Eye song.
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Post by World71R on Dec 31, 2022 17:10:15 GMT -5
Diamond in the Dark is a top tune. Also Why Me? Why Not. has grown a lot on me. I didn't like it at first for how calculated it seemed, matching the album title, but the way it hits on being orchestral and rocking at the same time with Liam giving it his all just is pure bliss. I'll echo wanting a Liam penned EP. Totally understand he's not interested in writing an album's worth of songs and no need for him to, but an EP isn't beyond him. I get irate with fans blasting him for not writing his own tunes. The man's a singing machine, songwriting is not his function, even if he can do it when the muse calls.Why Me Why Not in my top 5 Liam songs. Fucking awesome chorus Noel would be proud to call his own. Liam hits those high notes so well in the studio but obv can't do it live with all the noise behind him. Lyrics solid. Orchestra makes it. Top tune. This is exactly it. I was listening to Too Good for Giving Up today and thought, "There is no way anyone else could execute this song as perfectly as Liam does," and that's a pretty valuable thing for a singer to have in any type of music. I think of Rihanna in the pop world or Elvis way back in the day. Anyone tries to sing that song and it falls flat but Liam singing it is top-notch. That's why it pains me whenever his band isn't up to spec. Liam is again a world-class rock singer, the band should be a world-class rock band.
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Post by World71R on Dec 31, 2022 17:07:14 GMT -5
I briefly touched on Beady Eye when revisiting Oasis and the solo projects recently. I still really like how good Back After the Break and Off at the Next Exit are but also hate how awful Don't Brother Me and Shine a Light are (I didn't even touch a lot of DGSS). I do like how interesting Don't Brother Me is sonically, same with Second Bite of the Apple, but it's just very meh. Couple of songs that escaped me somehow are Flick of the Finger and Soon Come Tomorrow. I really like those two. Soon Come Tomorrow has a badass guitar solo in it. I'm Just Saying tries really hard to be a cool Oasis throwback but the vocal melody is underwhelming enough to let everything down. Face the Crowd also feels like Four Letter Word part two, but FLW is good for one go-around, not two. Other than that, there are some good tunes (The Roller, The Morning Son, Start Anew, Evil Eye, Iz Rite off the top of my head) but Beady Eye just wasn't worth their salt. I look at how well Liam is doing now with his solo career and just find it hard to go any deeper into BDI. BDI does make me appreciate how good Andy was when he was finally let loose but it also makes me dislike Gem more, especially looking at his Oasis songs and how they're consistently some of the weakest, pastiche stuff from 2000s Oasis. No less, I'm glad Andy is back with Ride and Chris (and Gem for that matter) is with Noel. It worked out well. Thankfully. BDI was a mess. Gem dis write off at the next exit probably the best Beady Eye track. That is very true. He was good for a couple hits here and there (To Be Where There's Life and Eyeball Tickler, The Roller too) amid some of the misses, and meant well above all.
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Post by World71R on Dec 29, 2022 22:39:55 GMT -5
Top 10 songs of 2022 (anglophone stuff only): Dave - Starlight Black Country, New Road - Concorde Fontaines D.C. - Nabokov Loyle Carner - Speed of Plight Tamino - Fascination Warhaus - Open Window Ezra Collective - Never The Same Again Samora Pinderhughes - Masculinity Arctic Monkeys - Big Ideas Benjamin Clementine - Genesis Top 10 albums of 2022 (same criteria): Loyle Carner - Hugo Fontaines D.C. - Skinty Fia Black Country, New Road - Ants From Up There Tamino - Sahar Paolo Nutini - Last Night In The Bittersweet Little Simz - NO THANK YOU 72-HOURS POST FLIGHT - NON-BACKGROUND MUSIC Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers Frankie Stew & Harvey Gunn - Nothing New Under The Sun French The Kid - Never Been Ordinar I love the BC, NR love here, as well as the love for Kendrick, Little Simz, Fontaines D.C., and Paolo Nutini. Now I wanna dive into the other albums because I trust it's going to be properly good.
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Post by World71R on Dec 29, 2022 22:38:04 GMT -5
I'm kinda glad Oasis broke up, truthfully. They were starting to hit on a particular sound toward the end but I don't miss all the compromises that came with Mk.II Oasis. The solo years have given us so much music, and quality, interesting music too, that I wouldn't want to go back or have an alternate universe where Oasis kept going.
That said, I will still take one final show where Liam and Noel perform as Oasis with Bonehead, Gem and Alan or Chris if the fates allow...
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Post by World71R on Dec 29, 2022 22:33:11 GMT -5
So why do people really hate The Nature of Reality? Is it the lyrics or the music? That's a very good question. I don't actually hate it it's just that I don't think it should have been on Dig Out Your Soul and it would have been better as a b.side. Also, I think that it's certainly not one of Andy Bell's best. Definitely. It starts off rocking and sounding really cool but then the lyrics, the stop-start nature of it and how it plods along just feels like a drag. I like the solo in the song and I hear its potential, for how it kinda sounds like Tame Impala if you stripped back the distortion and make it a little blues-ier. Even still, I feel like the song needs the distortion and edge to interplay with Liam's vocals and make it the psychedelic thoughtpiece it's trying to be.
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Post by World71R on Dec 29, 2022 22:27:25 GMT -5
Diamond in the Dark is a top tune.
Also Why Me? Why Not. has grown a lot on me. I didn't like it at first for how calculated it seemed, matching the album title, but the way it hits on being orchestral and rocking at the same time with Liam giving it his all just is pure bliss.
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Post by World71R on Dec 29, 2022 22:24:19 GMT -5
I briefly touched on Beady Eye when revisiting Oasis and the solo projects recently. I still really like how good Back After the Break and Off at the Next Exit are but also hate how awful Don't Brother Me and Shine a Light are (I didn't even touch a lot of DGSS). I do like how interesting Don't Brother Me is sonically, same with Second Bite of the Apple, but it's just very meh.
Couple of songs that escaped me somehow are Flick of the Finger and Soon Come Tomorrow. I really like those two. Soon Come Tomorrow has a badass guitar solo in it. I'm Just Saying tries really hard to be a cool Oasis throwback but the vocal melody is underwhelming enough to let everything down. Face the Crowd also feels like Four Letter Word part two, but FLW is good for one go-around, not two.
Other than that, there are some good tunes (The Roller, The Morning Son, Start Anew, Evil Eye, Iz Rite off the top of my head) but Beady Eye just wasn't worth their salt. I look at how well Liam is doing now with his solo career and just find it hard to go any deeper into BDI.
BDI does make me appreciate how good Andy was when he was finally let loose but it also makes me dislike Gem more, especially looking at his Oasis songs and how they're consistently some of the weakest, pastiche stuff from 2000s Oasis.
No less, I'm glad Andy is back with Ride and Chris (and Gem for that matter) is with Noel. It worked out well. Thankfully. BDI was a mess.
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Post by World71R on Dec 29, 2022 22:17:33 GMT -5
Also, Magdalena Bay's Mercurial World. If anyone here likes them, hit me up. I've been obsessed with them this year and actually got to meet Mica at a show I went to
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Post by World71R on Dec 29, 2022 20:40:19 GMT -5
I'm on my annual Oasis revisit right now so I tried this tracklisting:
Bag it Up The Turning Waiting for the Rapture The Shock of the Lightning I'm Outta Time Come on Outside Falling Down To Be Where There's Life (Richard Fearless version) Record Machine Stop on Clocks Soldier On Boy With the Blues
And it worked really well! Soldier On sounds like a fitting credits song and Boy With the Blues is like the song after that which you catch and are rewarded with if you stick around. Also, I love how Soldier On's outro and BWTB's intro flow exceptionally well into each other.
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Post by World71R on Dec 23, 2022 15:59:44 GMT -5
Don't Believe the Truth is a top-notch Mk.II Oasis album. The opening five tracks flow well and are all quality in one way or another. The layering and production on some of the songs are super tasteful. The Importance of Being Idle, Lyla, Part of the Queue, Abel, Turn Up the Sun and Let There Be Love are also all fantastic tunes. The only thing is Mucky Fingers, The Meaning of Soul and A Bell Will Ring should've been replaced with Lord Don't Slow Me Down, Eyeball Tickler and Pass Me Down the Wine, respectively. Also I really like Keep the Dream Alive but I wish they had spent more time on Liam's vocals and just turned everything after the second chorus into a time for Andy Bell to shine on guitar. Yeah, I agree with you, although I'm not a big fan of Lyla or Love Like A Bomb but they're ok and I don't actually mind Mucky Fingers, I think it isn't that bad. As for The Meaning Of Soul and A Bell Will Ring we could have done without them and I agree that Eyeball Tickler and Pass Me Down The Wine should have replaced them on the album and as for Lord Don't Slow Me Down it's an ok song but I'm glad it wasn't on the album. Mucky Fingers is a pretty fun song, I just wish it differed more from The Velvet Underground influence it takes on. It still works, though, and is a pretty neat direction for Noel and Oasis to take. DYKWIM? is a fucking masterpiece. Champagne Supernova -> DYKWIM? is the best inter-album run of tracks Oasis ever did, by a mile. Throw in Morning Glory beforehand and My Big Mouth after that too.
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Post by World71R on Dec 21, 2022 1:45:51 GMT -5
Well it's not a David Holmes album. Holmes doesn't have any co-writing credits like Pretty Boy is not a Noel Gallagher/Johnny Marr song. So at the end of the day, they're Noel's songs and as much as Holmes is involved, Noel remains Noel and there's no way he would have given complete creative control to anyone. The This is the Place thing is a good example, I'm not surprised at all. Writing credits are a negotiating tactic rather than an authoritative document of who was involved in a songs creation. Depending on a producer’s bargaining power and what they want out of life, they might accept a fatter producing fee in exchange for letting the artist take all the credit for singing over a track which was already prepared. I’m not suggesting anything underhand about the Noel/Holmes relationship, but just because he wasn’t credited as a co-writer doesn’t mean he didn’t contribute in such a way that he could have been credited as one.Ask U2 fans (like me) about that one. Their songs get shaped and shifted in so many ways and forms depending on the producer and it's maddening, especially when a bland producer like Ryan Tedder consistently gets pulled in.
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Post by World71R on Dec 21, 2022 1:42:26 GMT -5
HFB1 is a really good album but I wish Noel had reached for the stars and included Alone on the Rope, Let the Lord Shine a Light on Me and A Simple Game of Genius throughout it to really send a big warning shot in the post-Oasis era.
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Post by World71R on Dec 21, 2022 1:39:36 GMT -5
Don't Believe the Truth is a top-notch Mk.II Oasis album. The opening five tracks flow well and are all quality in one way or another. The layering and production on some of the songs are super tasteful. The Importance of Being Idle, Lyla, Part of the Queue, Abel, Turn Up the Sun and Let There Be Love are also all fantastic tunes.
The only thing is Mucky Fingers, The Meaning of Soul and A Bell Will Ring should've been replaced with Lord Don't Slow Me Down, Eyeball Tickler and Pass Me Down the Wine, respectively. Also I really like Keep the Dream Alive but I wish they had spent more time on Liam's vocals and just turned everything after the second chorus into a time for Andy Bell to shine on guitar.
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Post by World71R on Dec 21, 2022 1:15:41 GMT -5
BHN is the perfect soundtrack to this road trip because they are both exceedingly long and exhausting In its original form, the piled-on guitar layers get old halfway through The Girl in the Dirty Shirt and Fade In-Out is the kiss of death before Don't Go Away comes way too late. I tried Stay Young at track #3 and it helps Stand By Me but the songs are still so long and overblown in their original form. Even Flashbax, with its cool layers at times, sounds absolutely blitzed (no way Noel recorded it sober, either). Going Nowhere sounds great but it doesn't work on BHN, save for some hilarious irony at track #3 with Big Mouth and I Hope I Think I Know around it.
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