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Post by World71R on Jan 21, 2024 19:32:39 GMT -5
An incredibly tantalising set of photos - loads of Don't Believe The Truth stuff: Top left: - A CD-R (presumably demos) of Ain't Got Nothing, Love Like A Bomb, The Meaning Of Soul. - A CD-R of Gem's tracks (aagin demos?) A Bell Will Ring, Eyeball Tickler, The Quiet Ones, The Roller. - CDs of 6 different tracklists from December 2004 i.e. before Lyla and Let There Be Love were brought back into consideration. It would be very interesting to know what's on those? Eyeball Tickler, Pass Me Down The Wine, Lord Don't Slow Me Down, I Can See It Now, Stop The Clocks, They Ain't Got Nothing On Me? Did they fully record Record Machine and The Boy With The Blues at those sessions? Just Let It Come Down Over Me? Others? Top right there's a CD-R (with MDM logo) which you can just about make out the tracklisting of: 1. Turn Up The Sun 2. Mucky Fingers 3. Lord Don't Slow Me Down 4. Ain't Got Nothing On Me 5. Love Like A Bomb 6. A Bell Will Ring 7. The Meaning Of Soul 8. Eyeball Tickler 9. Keep The Dream AliveI am incredibly glad they kept working and that this was not the tracklist. The Importance of Being Idle, Lyla, Part of the Queue, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel and Let There Be Love were great additions but LDSMD and Eyeball Tickler getting dropped was criminal, same with I Can See it Now and Pass Me Down the Wine not making the final cut. They, honestly, had all the makings of the third-best Oasis album here. I think the final version is good but it had more potential
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Post by World71R on Jul 28, 2023 23:26:52 GMT -5
Good grief, the Barbie soundtrack has broken the UK music chart record. Did you know that in the background in one of the scenes there's a Stone Roses vinyl? I thought I might've seen that in a scene but, actually?
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Post by World71R on Jul 17, 2023 22:05:31 GMT -5
Y'all are forgetting the best one in this poll: Gleneagles 1994. The spirit of Definitely Maybe never sounded more alive than at that gig.
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Post by World71R on Jul 11, 2023 21:59:04 GMT -5
After watching MicTheSnare video on prince I realized that I need more purple in my life. Goddamm 40 studio albums without counting compilations. Damn. Love to see Mic The Snare get a nod on here! His Deep Discog Dives started out as fun, bitesized videos, and now he's making some incredible breakdowns of artist discographies, like this Prince DDD. I gotta watch it but having grown up in Minnesota, he's like a deity there for how down-home he was and remained (compared to someone like Bob Dylan) and how talented he was. May he rest in peace.
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Post by World71R on Jul 9, 2023 15:24:46 GMT -5
I like that Liam is in a position in his career where he knows he can do whatever and chooses to do things his fans (who got him to where he is) would be interested in seeing. A lot of artists make their money, get some of their artistic ambitions out and then get stuck in their ways. Liam hasn't done that.
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Post by World71R on Jul 8, 2023 18:40:40 GMT -5
The truth is somewhere in the middle. Oasis getting back together wouldn't be The Beatles getting back together but it certainly wouldn't be a minor headline stuffed in page 5 of the U.K. papers. Being in the U.S., it might be like that but I think it'd make some of the shows as a cool story and in other publications. If Oasis got back together it absolutely would be front page news in the UK For sure. That's what I mean by "it wouldn't be stuffed in page 5 of the U.K. papers." It'd be big, big news. In the U.S., it'd be cool news more than big.
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Post by World71R on Jun 27, 2023 22:55:00 GMT -5
You are grossly over-exaggerating Oasis’ relevance in 2023 No, you’re grossly under-estimating their relevance in 2023. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Oasis getting back together wouldn't be The Beatles getting back together but it certainly wouldn't be a minor headline stuffed in page 5 of the U.K. papers. Being in the U.S., it might be like that but I think it'd make some of the shows as a cool story and in other publications.
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Post by World71R on Jun 27, 2023 22:36:12 GMT -5
One nutjob up against another nutjob. Hope they both pull the trigger on each other. Ukraine (and NATO kinda), off to the side, watching:
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Post by World71R on Jun 16, 2023 19:54:02 GMT -5
Totally random because this isn't Oasis technically but has Liam ever sounded better than this since 2002? He sounds astonishingly good here, I kinda feel like people have forgotten how good 2017 was as a year to be a fan of the Gallagher brothers. He sounds like he did in the early 90's just a bit deeper and with a bit less power. I miss this era to be honest, it was such a great time to be a fan, Liam came back out of nowhere and absolutely fucking smashed it vocally and Noel released WBTM which was brilliant and when I saw him on tour he was in the best form I've ever seen him in. What a great year that was. Ahhh 2017 was great in general. That was my first year at university. I remember U2 was on the The Joshua Tree 30 Tour that year and released Songs of Experience, and I was just getting into them and got to be a part of that whole release cycle and saw a TJT30 Tour show. SOE had some great standouts, never mind the trio of bleh singles, and that show was wonderful. All while Liam and Noel was releasing stuff.
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Post by World71R on Jun 16, 2023 19:33:48 GMT -5
Arm chair quarterbacking and hindsight is 20/20, but my release strategy would have been to hold Easy Now until a month before June 2. Get that massive surge of Oasis fans to pre-order the album when approaching the last mile. Council Skies (the song) and Open the Door didn’t do much for sales in IMHO. That would've been cool. Drop Pretty Boy in February or March and announce the album, then Open the Door in April or May and Easy Now in the last leg. Then leave Dead in the Water for the full album, go tour and drop it as a single and play it and Easy Now at various radio stations.
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Post by World71R on Jun 16, 2023 19:31:30 GMT -5
According to SetlistFM, Noel has dropped Easy Now, added Half the World Away, replaced Love Will Tear Us Apart with Quinn the Mighty (Bob Dylan). He’s also played a verse of Take Me Away apparently. I’m going to see if I can find any recording of this on YouTube. I love how loose Noel is being on this tour. You can tell he's been through a lot with the divorce and just wants to enjoy himself (in general too, divorce aside).
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Post by World71R on Jun 16, 2023 19:26:00 GMT -5
Thoughts on that fan mixtape? I enjoy the alternate history bit the uploader has done in the description. Honestly, top notch. That tracklisting could've been a reality if Noel had really invested more effort into the album too. Like, even just replace Sunday Morning Call with Let's All Make Believe and you've got a good alternate album.
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Post by World71R on Jun 5, 2023 22:02:19 GMT -5
There's plenty of plodding drums on Noel' s non-Sardy output. Noel must like a good plod. Yeah, my comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek. We got shit drums and shit mixing on Council Skies too - and the main culprit is Noel. As his engineer said: "he likes things quite mono". I bet he likes stomping, plodding drums too. Sardy has become a bit of a scapegoat after HFB1... He's produced a lot of solid stuff but whenever he's been involved with Oasis/Noel the results were subpar, bar a few songs. After I heard that comment, it's ruined a lot of the songs on CS for me lol. Like, I hear some songs with great driving guitars that should hit a lot harder than they do but they do because they get shoved in the mix throughout the same way everything else is. FWIW, I think Sardy did a good job with HFB1 and songs like The Death of You & Me, Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks, and Stranded on the Wrong Beach (Everybody's on the Run and If I Had a Gun too) with how he breathed life into the songs. He made them sound really vibrant in a way that I don't think Noel would've done on his own, and that's really been the case any time Noel has had an external producer at the desk... Brian Eno is 75 years old. He also hasn’t really done any album producing in well over 15 years with Markus Dravs doing the heavy sonic lifting for Viva. Noel can do better and younger. Sardy is a good producer but a horrendous audio engineer. He caves to the audio vices that Noel picked up with Owen Morris and drains all life from otherwise terrific production. Dig Out Your Soul is a great example - that album is teeming with spatial audio themes and expansive wide soundscapes, but it all gets squished into one channel most of the time. I really wish DOYS would've gotten the David Holmes or Spike Stent treatment. Holmes' production on WBTM sounded like what DOYS could've been in the right hands (Be Careful What You Wish For is a great example). Like, The Turning with Holmes producing would've been mega or Falling Down (imagine that last chorus with the It's a Beautiful World treatment). All of this makes me miss the WBTM era and how fun it was to take all those songs in and just bask in the vibrant beauty of it. David Holmes has gotta come back (especially with how good Noel's songwriting is right now).
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Post by World71R on Jun 3, 2023 18:50:15 GMT -5
Honestly, I think Noel being apart of Oasis from 2000-09 held his songwriting back. He wrote songs to Liam's voice and the "Oasis rock" and "60s British-influenced" style, then didn't fully dig out of that until Chasing Yesterday -> Who Built the Moon? (no shade on Alone on the Rope, Let the Lord Shine a Light on Me and Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks, though). I can even tell on Counci Skies his Oasis-style songwriting has some of that David Holmes influence and it really makes the songs feel more fluid and groove in a way we wouldn't have ever gotten with Oasis. Yep. But I’d change that to 2002-2009. I see your point. Only reason I say 2000-2009 is because Noel had written all of the SOTSOG songs and was coming out of that era before it even got started. I mean, he wrote Force of Nature, of all songs, around that time, and did things like the Tour of Brotherly Love that felt like a step toward what we got with the type of songs and style we got in the 2000s. I'm just glad he's out of it now.
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Post by World71R on Jun 2, 2023 20:34:12 GMT -5
I know that there's a fair chunk of posters on this forum who have a downer on Noel these days but in all honestly, I personally feel as though a lot of his post Oasis work has been good to great with the odd bit of outstanding thrown in for good measure. His success rate for HFB has been much better than anything from 2000 - 2008 and I'm sure that CS will be a thoroughly enjoyable listen when I finally get my hands on it. Would we have got to hear the sheer amount/variety of songs that he has released post Oasis if they had never broken up? I very much doubt it. I can't figure out if his comments about a potential Oasis reunion are bollocks or not but I really hope that we don't go down the 5-6 Noel songs + Liam / Andy / Gem route again. Would be an absolute travesty in my opinion. Honestly, I think Noel being apart of Oasis from 2000-09 held his songwriting back. He wrote songs to Liam's voice and the "Oasis rock" and "60s British-influenced" style, then didn't fully dig out of that until Chasing Yesterday -> Who Built the Moon? (no shade on Alone on the Rope, Let the Lord Shine a Light on Me and Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks, though). I can even tell on Counci Skies his Oasis-style songwriting has some of that David Holmes influence and it really makes the songs feel more fluid and groove in a way we wouldn't have ever gotten with Oasis.
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Post by World71R on May 28, 2023 17:57:17 GMT -5
Chicago hasn't been selling the tickets. Shocking considering that Chicago has (had?) long been an Oasis/Gallagher stronghold basically since Day 1. Plus 93-WXRT is one of the few Adult Alternative stations still playing "Easy Now" after it had brief run on the format starting in February - they've got it as their #2 most played this week and it's been in heavy rotation for months now. Quite a few people will have heard it on there. That station's core audience is probably is the exact kind of person who might go see Noel Gallagher and/or Garbage. I wonder what it is... Are diehard fans just getting bored with NGHFB music? Has his "grumpy old man" schtick in interviews finally gone too far (his covid/mask comments pissed a lot of people off)? Is it that the more casual Oasis fans can't be bothered anymore? Prices too high? Bad co-headliner? Lack of advertising? I get the sense that concerts are less of a "thing" post-covid, but it seems like they really missed the mark on this. Good chance the album doesn't even chart in America at all. Back in 2017, CD sales and digital downloads were still a decent proportion of tabulating album sales alongside streams. The way the charts are calculated now, streaming is the end-all be-all. Problem with Noel is he isn't putting in the same kind of effort as Liam, who has the spirit of Oasis in his hands. Noel also feels more impersonal and colder than Liam. To top it off, Noel's release strategy is terrible. Pretty Boy was technically the first single but it came out like a song you'd get between album cycles to tie everyone over. Then, Easy Now and album details came out and generated a lot of buzz but where has that gone? It's been 4.5 months since all of that, plus we've gotten 40% of the album with the two singles since then. At least with Liam's stuff, it was album announcement in Oct. 2021, build the hype and buzz, first single in February, second and third singles in April and a single the day before its release and some big shows right after that.
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Post by World71R on May 24, 2023 18:16:40 GMT -5
The same people who thought the cover of Chasing Yesterday was a good idea. The album was good, the art direction...not so much. It was almost like someone heard "In the Heat of the Moment" and thought of it as a way for Noel to become more modern and hip – then doubled down on it with the art direction.
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Post by World71R on May 23, 2023 22:53:20 GMT -5
A random thought. Who the hell thought that putting a pic of the Stacey twins inside the gatefold sleeve of Chasing Yesterday was a good idea? The same people who thought the cover of Chasing Yesterday was a good idea.
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Post by World71R on May 19, 2023 20:52:54 GMT -5
The other part of that quote was that it was more than just the music. Whenever someone loves a band, it's always more than just the music. Yes - even with Coldplay! It's not that Oasis are the only band people truly love, but that Oasis were always more than just a band. They're a cultural force that sums up all the emotion of the world they came from. Being an Oasis fan feels more like having a football team at times; that same sense of community and support, above just enjoying the tunes. There's a magic in that mix of yearning and riotous fun, caught between the two brothers, that no other band can quite capture. If I was to go full writing-student, I'd argue that the dynamics of the Gallaghers, the more melancholy songwriter with his bittersweet melodies, and the raging energy of the frontman with his joy and passion, is the same emotional dynamic that a lot of working-class people feel every week; sad truths, best sang with defiance. And certainly, Coldplay or U2 couldn't dream of that. Nor could anyone but them. (Also, I was just joking about my being a Coldplay fan boy.) I feel like U2 has some of that passion but Oasis just has it in a much rawer form because, well, that's how the band operated. If U2 disbanded today, and everyone went and did their separate things, I don't think a forum dedicated to them would be as lively 14 years later like the Oasis forum has become 14 years after the boys called it a day. And that defines the difference in a nutshell.
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Post by World71R on May 18, 2023 19:20:21 GMT -5
I... have been in musical heaven these last few days:
On Sunday night, I got to see Red Hot Chili Peppers, Thundercat and The Strokes live.
Then, on Tuesday night, I got to see The Cure live.
RHCP and The Cure were both unreal. The Cure especially. Robert Smith's voice is in top form, Simon Gallup is a bass genius and the whole band is so tight. Deep cuts, big songs, tearjerkers, dancers, incredible solos and amazing performances...it had it all. The Cure is just amazing live and I got to know the band on a deeper level than the 10-15 songs I knew before. Newsong, ...Deep Green Sea, Burn, Shake Dog Shake, Six Different Ways, It Can Never Be the Same. It was incredible.
RHCP was like a dream come true. They were the band that first got me into guitar playing when I was a teenage and it was unreal seeing John, Flea, Chad and Anthony all together; when just a few years ago it seemed like it was never going to happen again.
John and Flea were on fire all night. Anthony sounded great too. Chad was very good too, but he had a couple of slower moments. Still, they were fantastic.
Best moment of the night was Wet Sand. That outro solo had me puckered the fuck up and excited all the way through for the mere fact that they played it. Biblical.
There was a dude next to me who also loved the Chilis and we bonded over it that night hahaha
Thundercat was an amazing opener. His band is extremely talented and Thundercat is severely underrated. I freaking loved Dragonball Durag, Funny Thing, No More Lies and Them Changes but he was a freaking bop overall.
The Strokes were good, but Julian Casablancas was pissed drunk, maybe high too lol. He looked up at the open retractable roof at one point and went, "Is that the ceiling or am I hallucinating right now? What?" Reptilia was the highlight. I think I'd like them more if they had more songs like that tbh...
I love music and seeing artists live, man.....
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Post by World71R on May 17, 2023 20:33:50 GMT -5
I will reiterate that by far the most powerful form of identity politics in the USA is white nationalism. I'd also use this thread as proof for how effective the right-wing pipeline that takes people from "People are too easily offended these days!" to "The far-left is taking over and supporting pedophiles in the name of wokeism!" is. (Would be good if mods moved all this to a politics/culture-war thread, I think. It's a fine discussion but this thread is for people to slowly realise that Holy Mountain is the best song Noel has ever written.) The worst thing is people clamoring for power using the identity politics to push themselves into power and bringing along the nasty collateral impacts with it. Like, Ron DeSantis pushing against LGBTQ+ people to gain the votes of staunch, dedicated voters but putting people's lives in danger in the process.
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Post by World71R on May 17, 2023 20:32:23 GMT -5
seen this on facebook not sure when its broadcast but do know its not this weekend would make more sense to be sat 3rd the day after the album comes out Say what you will but this is one hell of a good setlist.
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Post by World71R on May 17, 2023 20:31:32 GMT -5
Hot take for the day - SOTSOG has Noel’s best writing and lyrics. The album and its B-sides/rarities needed another month or two to cook, though. Get Liam to sing Full On and the Sunday Morning Call chorus, get to Noel to write another verse for Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is and have Liam sing it, record some more guitar overdubs and refine the sound more, maybe write another song in a whole different vein than everything else. Don't leave Let's All Make Believe off and put Little James as a hidden track after Roll it Over. It's a top-notch album that just needed a little more love to get it over the finish line. Taking those steps and trimming the fat (I Can See a Liar) would've done it.
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Post by World71R on May 11, 2023 19:50:09 GMT -5
That DM announcement has me hyped!!
Also, there's this haha
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Post by World71R on May 11, 2023 19:47:34 GMT -5
This is absolutely mental. This would be among the best Oasis singles from the Mark II era. Just wow. Some of these AI creations are creepy and weird just outright not right at all but this is brilliant and creative, I love it!
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