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Post by thomaslivesforever on Feb 8, 2022 16:37:46 GMT -5
It was decent enough.
I think its fair to say that Liam has been singing in ways he never has before with people writing for him and EE is no easy task. No chance it would survive a whole tour without changes.
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Post by TheEyeballTickler on Feb 8, 2022 16:39:06 GMT -5
That chorus did not work well at all. They have to change the key or something. Verses sounds ok
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Post by matt on Feb 8, 2022 16:39:12 GMT -5
Far cry from his 2007 performance at the Brits! Liam's voice, like his personality, treads that fine line between genius and chaos. Just that wee bit of control and management from his support team makes sure they're channelling the genius more often than not these days.
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Post by daviesh on Feb 8, 2022 16:39:12 GMT -5
Haha the hat appearance made it clear (I mean of course everyone knew) that the intro video was pre recorded.
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Post by shadowplay on Feb 8, 2022 16:40:28 GMT -5
Great performance from Liam but horrible mixing, sounded like someone was holding a phone up to a microphone for the instruments.
I love the studio version of the song but that was a huge missed opportunity because it sounded bad. That was their chance to showcase the song to a broad audience and someone either in the mixing studio or setting the sound up on the stage cocked up royally. All a casual fan would get from that is that Liam's still got it but the song was a bit 'meh' because you couldn't bloody hear anything apart from one tinney guitar
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 8, 2022 16:49:17 GMT -5
Great performance from Liam but horrible mixing, sounded like someone was holding a phone up to a microphone for the instruments. I love the studio version of the song but that was a huge missed opportunity because it sounded bad. That was their chance to showcase the song to a broad audience and someone either in the mixing studio or setting the sound up on the stage cocked up royally. All a casual fan would get from that is that Liam's still got it but the song was a bit 'meh' because you couldn't bloody hear anything apart from one tinney guitar Hmmm. Sounded great through my TV soundbar.
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Post by garys on Feb 8, 2022 16:53:50 GMT -5
It was decent enough. I think its fair to say that Liam has been singing in ways he never has before with people writing for him and EE is no easy task. No chance it would survive a whole tour without changes. Pretty much in agreement. It's going to have to be knocked down a bit to keep it in the set list. That being said, the intro and overall vibe was pretty cool. Good start to the new cycle.
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Post by yogurt on Feb 8, 2022 16:54:12 GMT -5
I like Liam as much as the next person But it’s kind of a sad state of affairs when you have a professional singer and the main talking point is if they sound horrendous or not and receive a bit of praise for just sounding not terrible.
Imagine that in any other profession. I don’t even think most singers have so much focus on whether they can actually perform their own song or not and their fans are worried they’ll sound awful on live TV.
Still, I’d take him over garbage like Ed Sheeran so I guess it’s not that important. It’s just a bit piss poor when a professional singer can barely sing their own song sometimes
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Post by mouth on Feb 8, 2022 16:55:39 GMT -5
hearing it live, the chorus is even worse. what were they thinking?
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 8, 2022 16:58:24 GMT -5
I like Liam as much as the next person But it’s kind of a sad state of affairs when you have a professional singer and the main talking point is if they sound horrendous or not and receive a bit of praise for just sounding not terrible. Imagine that in any other profession. I don’t even think most singers have so much focus on whether they can actually perform their own song or not and their fans are worried they’ll sound awful on live TV. Still, I’d take him over garbage like Ed Sheeran so I guess it’s not that important. It’s just a bit piss poor when a professional singer can barely sing their own song sometimes Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. The last time he was on TV people were convinced he was miming because it sounded too good.
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Post by leron on Feb 8, 2022 17:04:59 GMT -5
I like Liam as much as the next person But it’s kind of a sad state of affairs when you have a professional singer and the main talking point is if they sound horrendous or not and receive a bit of praise for just sounding not terrible. Imagine that in any other profession. I don’t even think most singers have so much focus on whether they can actually perform their own song or not and their fans are worried they’ll sound awful on live TV. Still, I’d take him over garbage like Ed Sheeran so I guess it’s not that important. It’s just a bit piss poor when a professional singer can barely sing their own song sometimes Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. The last time he was on TV people were convinced he was miming because it sounded too good. The problem is that it didn't sound very good because the song is "wrong" Too high? Drop a few keys It still sounds wrong? Don't put it on the album He should care more about these things
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Post by mancraider on Feb 8, 2022 17:08:03 GMT -5
Video on Liams YT
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Post by yogurt on Feb 8, 2022 17:10:17 GMT -5
I like Liam as much as the next person But it’s kind of a sad state of affairs when you have a professional singer and the main talking point is if they sound horrendous or not and receive a bit of praise for just sounding not terrible. Imagine that in any other profession. I don’t even think most singers have so much focus on whether they can actually perform their own song or not and their fans are worried they’ll sound awful on live TV. Still, I’d take him over garbage like Ed Sheeran so I guess it’s not that important. It’s just a bit piss poor when a professional singer can barely sing their own song sometimes Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. The last time he was on TV people were convinced he was miming because it sounded too good. Not really, some people just have poor ears and can’t tell when something is live or not That’s not really the point though is it? Nobody is suggesting he shouldn’t sing live and mime or something. The point is somebody is supposedly a professional singer but the performances are so hit and miss and tonight couldn’t even sing his own song in tune, it was incredibly flat at times. So yeah it is piss poor because you couldn’t get away with that level of inconsistency and being downright inept at times in anything else. He might have had a great voice once over but at this moment in time he’s basically gets smoked by other live performers, Whether you like their songs or not. It’s just sad when somebody is a singer and the main talking point is if they can actually sing their own song. It should be a given and should be the absolute minimum requirement. Let’s just be realistic and honest.
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Post by leron on Feb 8, 2022 17:10:20 GMT -5
Releasing a first single that you can't sing live very well is what is wrong with Liam's career Don't get me wrong, he did his best but it didn't sound good He needs to be more on control of these things, he should care more about the tonality of a song Drop it an half of an octave if needed It is his album, everything should be perfect for his abilities He's no Charlie Puth ffs
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 8, 2022 17:11:22 GMT -5
I will say that the other so-called rock performance, Sam Fender, was dull as paint drying. I like Sam Fender and that's a beautifully written song but what a routine, phoned-in performance. At least Liam did bring a hint of chaos.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Feb 8, 2022 17:14:01 GMT -5
I like Liam as much as the next person But it’s kind of a sad state of affairs when you have a professional singer and the main talking point is if they sound horrendous or not and receive a bit of praise for just sounding not terrible. Imagine that in any other profession. I don’t even think most singers have so much focus on whether they can actually perform their own song or not and their fans are worried they’ll sound awful on live TV. Still, I’d take him over garbage like Ed Sheeran so I guess it’s not that important. It’s just a bit piss poor when a professional singer can barely sing their own song sometimes Given his age, given his struggles with his voice and its deterioration even in his early 30's its not remotely surprising that fans are happy he did ok. It happens the same in sport as people get older. It was a considerably better effort than 'barely' singing it.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Feb 8, 2022 17:16:04 GMT -5
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. The last time he was on TV people were convinced he was miming because it sounded too good. The problem is that it didn't sound very good because the song is "wrong" Too high? Drop a few keys It still sounds wrong? Don't put it on the album He should care more about these things Looks like he cares less than you about it. I would rather sang things more comfortable for him but if he can do it in a setting like that, then fine. Another way to look at it is he doesn't have long left to even attempt songs like that. A good thing about it is that its pushing him to do better.
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Post by leron on Feb 8, 2022 17:16:23 GMT -5
I like Liam as much as the next person But it’s kind of a sad state of affairs when you have a professional singer and the main talking point is if they sound horrendous or not and receive a bit of praise for just sounding not terrible. Imagine that in any other profession. I don’t even think most singers have so much focus on whether they can actually perform their own song or not and their fans are worried they’ll sound awful on live TV. Still, I’d take him over garbage like Ed Sheeran so I guess it’s not that important. It’s just a bit piss poor when a professional singer can barely sing their own song sometimes Given his age, given his struggles with his voice and its deterioration even in his early 30's its not remotely surprising that fans are happy he did ok. It happens the same in sport as people get older. It was a considerably better effort than 'barely' singing it. Given his age, given his struggles etc he should sing songs in his vocal range that suits his voice
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 8, 2022 17:16:34 GMT -5
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. The last time he was on TV people were convinced he was miming because it sounded too good. Not really, some people just have poor ears and can’t tell when something is live or not That’s not really the point though is it? Nobody is suggesting he shouldn’t sing live and mime or something. The point is somebody is supposedly a professional singer but the performances are so hit and miss and tonight couldn’t even sing his own song in tune, it was incredibly flat at times. So yeah it is piss poor because you couldn’t get away with that level of inconsistency and being downright inept at times in anything else. He might have had a great voice once over but at this moment in time he’s basically gets smoked by other live performers, Whether you like their songs or not. It’s just sad when somebody is a singer and the main talking point is if they can actually sing their own song. It should be a given and should be the absolute minimum requirement. Let’s just be realistic and honest. Nah, no one ever called Liam Pavarotti. I don't think he'd put "professional singer" down as his occupation on any form. He's not going to "compete" with Adele and that lot. But plenty of rough vocals in rock and roll, always was, even if it faded away with the deadly merging of pop into it ...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 8, 2022 17:16:36 GMT -5
That hat is some………..choice.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 8, 2022 17:16:50 GMT -5
I would've let that NO in the first prechorus for the backing ladies to give Liam a breather. Cool first performance, but it makes me worried about a bad day, because he was shouty even with all the rest in the world. Let's see, onwards and upwards
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Post by vespa on Feb 8, 2022 17:16:52 GMT -5
Are you having a laugh? Sounded quality , Liam will never sound like 1995 again ever !he’s nearly bloody 50! Impressive the way he tackled that track. Only thing I’d wish is he’d bring back some clothes like he used to wear leather jackets etc it’s obvious a record label thing but needs to change it up. Other than that top notch
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Post by leron on Feb 8, 2022 17:18:25 GMT -5
The problem is that it didn't sound very good because the song is "wrong" Too high? Drop a few keys It still sounds wrong? Don't put it on the album He should care more about these things Looks like he cares less than you about it. Yes and it's sad tbh
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Post by megyesitomate on Feb 8, 2022 17:22:33 GMT -5
Enjoyed the performance but I feel like it could still get a lot better. Besides the mix being very shit, I think he still needs some practice with the song, I felt like he didn't get the timing or the tempo right at all. The chorus with the backing singers sounded the best part for me and I'm happy that he can shout through this while still sounding punchy, I, for one, quite like it when he does that.
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Post by leron on Feb 8, 2022 17:25:41 GMT -5
Not really, some people just have poor ears and can’t tell when something is live or not That’s not really the point though is it? Nobody is suggesting he shouldn’t sing live and mime or something. The point is somebody is supposedly a professional singer but the performances are so hit and miss and tonight couldn’t even sing his own song in tune, it was incredibly flat at times. So yeah it is piss poor because you couldn’t get away with that level of inconsistency and being downright inept at times in anything else. He might have had a great voice once over but at this moment in time he’s basically gets smoked by other live performers, Whether you like their songs or not. It’s just sad when somebody is a singer and the main talking point is if they can actually sing their own song. It should be a given and should be the absolute minimum requirement. Let’s just be realistic and honest. Nah, no one ever called Liam Pavarotti. I don't think he'd put "professional singer" down as his occupation on any form. He's not going to "compete" with Adele and that lot. But plenty of rough vocals in rock and roll, always was, even if it faded away with the deadly merging of pop into it ... Of course he's no Pavarotti and this is why he needs to care more about these things Take Sinatra, he didn't write his songs but they were perfect for his voice
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