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Post by daviesh on Jun 30, 2019 6:00:30 GMT -5
Crowd went mad @ Chem Bros Drugs had kicked in by then!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 6:11:02 GMT -5
It was immense. Faultless. I thought Liam was great but the band sounded like shit. Was moaning to Oa throughout it at the effects being all wrong, but Mike seems to have explained that. Fuck the BBC, licence fee war NOW. Haha can imagine that conversation 😊 I get it though, you want him to do well and show everyone how brilliant he can be and it’s a shame the broadcast fell short. I’ll watch it on iplayer later. Seems like I had a different experience actually being there to be fair to them. The band is the band, nobody is more aware of the issues than Liam and Mike. My problem is with Jay, not sure what’s going on with his competence, Dan seems talented but complacent.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 6:14:16 GMT -5
He didn’t cut any songs from the set list, just explains the mix up at the beginning. I think some songs cut a bit short maybe. Slide Away? Bold? None actually went missing from the set list.
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Post by bardes on Jun 30, 2019 6:17:03 GMT -5
Holy fucking shit, Liam still can't sing. Those high notes are so painful.. and that backing vocal, facepalm.
I will stick to album music. sorry.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 30, 2019 6:30:52 GMT -5
It is good thing actually that Liam doesn't give a fuck about Glasto. It's not his crowd, they don't respect him that much so he is not respecting them too much, he is not having some Glastonbury specials and shit. Why should those festival idiots have better gig, when they can't have respect that, than some mad fer it fans on some regular gig. Yeh it's only the world's greatest music festival. Having been to many Oasis gigs, and Glastonbury, I know which tends to attract the 'idiots'. If you don't get Glastonbury, you're not a music fan. Which is fine, you're a Liam fan. You are missing out on, in my and many others opinion, one of the world's greatest musical and cultural experiences. But if it's more important to you to knock it just to defend Liam's performance, good for you. I agree with you, it is a great music festival. A magical place the likes of which I've never experienced anywhere else. I've been to Glastonvbury 8 times I also like Liam Gallagher, is this ok with you? And don't pretend your 'sad' that Liam is using writers you don't like (and clearly don't have any idea of there careers).
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Post by MONO on Jun 30, 2019 6:31:19 GMT -5
Holy fucking shit, Liam still can't sing. Those high notes are so painful.. and that backing vocal, facepalm.
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Post by bardes on Jun 30, 2019 6:37:04 GMT -5
Holy fucking shit, Liam still can't sing. Those high notes are so painful.. and that backing vocal, facepalm. No, it's just fact unfortunately. Shockwave chorus is soooooooo painful to hear.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 30, 2019 6:48:32 GMT -5
This is exactly what I was saying to Oa during the gig - he didn't have the gain on. Not a surprise to see the BBC stitching Liam/Oasis up. They've been doing it going back to the mic swap on TotP in 2002. Yeh I made this point when Noel was getting grief during IoW. It's definitely an issue when it comes to how the TV decide to broadcast (not saying it's a conspiracy like).
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 30, 2019 7:15:03 GMT -5
Holy fucking shit, Liam still can't sing. Those high notes are so painful.. and that backing vocal, facepalm. I will stick to album music. sorry. Maybe you can sing better?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 7:17:09 GMT -5
Holy fucking shit, Liam still can't sing. Those high notes are so painful.. and that backing vocal, facepalm. I will stick to album music. sorry. Maybe you can sing better? What a bizarre non-argument.
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Post by Rolo on Jun 30, 2019 7:23:24 GMT -5
Thought it was a great gig apart from Bold and Universal Gleam.
What the fuck was happening with Bold? It sounded like no one had a clue what they were meant to be doing, right mess. Shame because the 2017 version from Glastonbury is brilliant.
I really like Universal Gleam but come on, what is it doing in the set? No one cares for it, especially at a festival, them two back to back knocked the momentum quite a bit.
Shockwave and The River sounded massive, the latter being probably my highlight of the set, promising for the new album. Was cool to see Wyatt on stage, looked like he was proper enjoying himself.
Liam sounded good overall, what annoys me is how he sings songs like For What It's Worth and Bold like they are Greedy Soul, way to much aggression, just sing them Liam, no need to shout your way through songs like that. Some great vocals on most songs though, Columbia, Roll With It and Champagne were all excellent.
Drew needs to stop doing the backing vocals on Roll With It, was quite embarrassing to be honest. He wasn't to bad on the other songs.
Very enjoyable show overall, can't wait to see him in November!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 30, 2019 7:25:25 GMT -5
Holy fucking shit, Liam still can't sing. Those high notes are so painful.. and that backing vocal, facepalm. I will stick to album music. sorry. He can sing; he just chooses not to when playing live. He shouts instead, maybe because he thinks that’s what people want to see him doing—like how people who see the Stones want Jagger shaking his arse and pointing his fingers, whether he feels like it that night or not. Pushing his vocal like that, he’s gonna miss notes. Watch Robert Plant in the 70s with Led Zep: he had the same problem while still in his twenties. But when he sings properly in the studio Liam’s still the man. I wish he wouldn’t shout the whole time. But that’s what he wants to do; he wants to give people the rock ‘n’ roll star they’ve paid for. So we should lower expectations accordingly, accept that he’s gonna be off sometimes, and try to enjoy his shows for what they are.
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Post by standbymoi on Jun 30, 2019 7:27:58 GMT -5
The difference between Glastonbury crowd and the crowd at his own gigs is chalk and cheese. It completely changes the whole ‘vibe’ and it’s like he’s an unknown unsigned act having to try and impress the audience. With the exception of Wonderwall everyone went nuts for that. As everyone else has said - The guitarist Jay and the drummer Dan need to be replaced and Drew needs to stop doing backing vocals. I think having NO BV’s at all would work better than having his. I’m sure he’s a good singer in his own right though.
Having Andrew W come on was Biblical in the words of Liam. I think we were all collectively thinking *finally a musician good enough to share a stage with Liam* when he started playing
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 7:35:16 GMT -5
Maybe you can sing better? What a bizarre non-argument. Maybe you can argue better?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 30, 2019 7:36:04 GMT -5
Needs to find someone to do backing vocals. I missed those two or three female backing vocalists who were at some festivals gigs on the As You Were tour. They helped flesh the sound out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 7:55:47 GMT -5
not sure what was going on in bold, I assumed that it was choice to strip it back but wasnt really stripped back at all, it just didnt have the drums. Then Liam made the comment that he was on strike for that one. Maybe there was just some issue with the drums so he just removed himself until the song was over. Overall, I feel like if Liam isnt going to try and do the "knooow" and "boooold" without doing that lazy out of tune shout then Id rather he just removed it from the set, it just sounds so bad.
they really needed to come back with a strong tune after that mess and then they played "universal gleam".....just really killed the atmosphere until cigs and alcohol brought it back out again. Really odd choice to play universal gleam imo, its not a festival song for casual fans, its not even that well loved amongst more solid fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 7:57:16 GMT -5
I suspect Bold was added at the last minute when Liam bottled Cast No Shadow.
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Post by pliolite on Jun 30, 2019 8:22:59 GMT -5
The beefed-up sound, when Andrew Wyatt came on for The River, is exactly how the band should always be! Suddenly sounded proper dirty rock n roll.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 30, 2019 8:23:46 GMT -5
I just want to point out that festival crowds can be an odd beast, especially after the heat of yesterday. Saw Kasabian a few years ago in a afternoon slot, they were great, crowd was shite after being fried by 30+ temps.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 8:25:53 GMT -5
The beefed-up sound, when Andrew Wyatt came on for The River, is exactly how the band should always be! Suddenly sounded proper dirty rock n roll. Agreed, made a big difference. The band simply isn't good enough for what is supposed to be "rock n roll".
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Post by coolprophet on Jun 30, 2019 8:26:53 GMT -5
The difference between Glastonbury crowd and the crowd at his own gigs is chalk and cheese. It completely changes the whole ‘vibe’ and it’s like he’s an unknown unsigned act having to try and impress the audience. With the exception of Wonderwall everyone went nuts for that. As everyone else has said - The guitarist Jay and the drummer Dan need to be replaced and Drew needs to stop doing backing vocals. I think having NO BV’s at all would work better than having his. I’m sure he’s a good singer in his own right though. Having Andrew W come on was Biblical in the words of Liam. I think we were all collectively thinking *finally a musician good enough to share a stage with Liam* when he started playing THIS! It sometimes looks like they doing there first gig together. Also some "thin" sounding overall and ffs Jay might be a nice fella but this is still terrible. Its not like these songs are really hard or tricky to play Nothing RnR about if you play false or fuck up on songs. This is just bad. Especially for such a big act Liam is (again) and is all about the live shows. No need to bring Slash in but at least some lead guitar player who is on point and can nail a proper solo here and there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 8:27:41 GMT -5
I just want to point out that festival crowds can be an odd beast, especially after the heat of yesterday. Saw Kasabian a few years ago in a afternoon slot, they were great, crowd was shite after being fried by 30+ temps. Maybe they just made an objective assessment of a fucking terrible band?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 8:32:39 GMT -5
Maybe Liam's got a bit of misplaced loyalty to some of the band. Jay's been around him for years and Dan helped him put his demos together.
tbf Dan is clearly an extremely talented young man but maybe the fact that his talents are so wide stops him from being a great drummer. Although I know fuck all about drums I wonder if some of it might be in the way they're mic'ed? They don't sound powerful at all.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 30, 2019 8:58:32 GMT -5
I just want to point out that festival crowds can be an odd beast, especially after the heat of yesterday. Saw Kasabian a few years ago in a afternoon slot, they were great, crowd was shite after being fried by 30+ temps. Maybe they just made an objective assessment of a fucking terrible band? Well maybe all the tickets when they headlined a few years later were bought up by Kasabian fans as it was objectively biggest crowd reaction I'd seen in 8 visits to Glastonbury.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 30, 2019 9:00:24 GMT -5
Only caught it up until Slide Away. Shockwave sounded great and the band were good too. Reading the comments here suggests watching the latter parts, aside from The River is gonna be a bit painful.But then again, I like UG and it sounds like RWI went down well too. I think the drummer is not at it anymore. Seems like a nice guy but as a drummer, I can see he does some basic things badly and it's starting to show now. Liam seemed his more usual 'angry' onstage persona today whereas in 2017 he seemed like he was genuinely thrilled he was being asked to play there. Fucking terrible shirt/jacket too. Nah, Liam performed very good on every song, except for Bold where he fucked up a bit. And since Bold the band started messing up from time to time. The main issue was that the combination of that weird version of Bold and Universal Gleam (although performed well) really took away the momentum of the gig that was definitely build after Shockwave-Columbia-Slide Away-Roll With it (this part was really epic, both from Liam as the band) Watching a bit more now - Bold was fine I thought! Strange without the drums but not the disaster I was expecting. And I'm obviously in the minority here, but I love UG! Absolute tune!!
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