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Post by Rolo on Aug 1, 2018 9:37:14 GMT -5
So I was on the train yesterday listening to As You Were and it got me thinking, how do Liam's vocals on this album rank amongst the others. Thought it would be a good discussion and would like to hear others opinions so here goes.
I think Liam's vocals on As You Were are his strongest easily since Dig Out Your Soul which in my opinion are very underrated, he sounded fantastic on that album. On both Beady Eye albums I think on the whole he sounded pretty poor, especially on BE (Way to much of a nasal tone) with the exception of a handful of songs such as Off At The Next Exit which are some of his best vocals of the 00's for me.
As You Were has very consistent vocals from Liam with him reaching notes that he hasn't done in ages, I do wish they would of got a more aggressive vocal out of him for songs such as Greedy Soul and You Better Run like the live versions but I know it was done the way it was for the flow of the album. Can't wait for album two.
I'd probably rate them something like this:
1. Be Here Now 2. Morning Glory 3. Dig Out Your Soul (That's right, third! Fucking love how he sounds on this album) 4. Definitely Maybe (Going to be in the minority here for sure but I just prefer his slightly matured voice) 5. As You Were 6. Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants 7. Heathen Chemistry 8. Don't Believe The Truth 9. Different Gear, Still Speeding 10. BE
Thoughts?
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Post by redvers on Aug 1, 2018 10:23:51 GMT -5
1. Morning Glory 2. Be Here Now 3. SOTSOG 4. Definitely Maybe 5. As You Were 6. the rest
His voice sounds a bit clean on DM, still amazing obviously but I like it with a bit of snarl.
MG is just untouchable, I remember when I started listening to Oasis properly hearing songs like CNS and CS almost made me want to cry, purely from how emotive that voice was. You can feel his pain when he sings like that.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 1, 2018 10:36:51 GMT -5
1. - The first three - 2. SOTSOG 3. As You Were 4. Dig Out Your Soul 5. Heathen Chemistry 6. DGSS 7. Don't Believe the Truth 8. BE
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 1, 2018 11:13:00 GMT -5
Gotta be Morning Glory. Silky smooth Liam vocals.
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Post by washyourface on Aug 1, 2018 11:19:09 GMT -5
1. WTSMG? 2. Be Here Now 3. Definitely Maybe 4. Dig Out Your Soul 5. As You Were 6. SOTSOG 7. Different Gear, Still Speeding 8. Heathen Chemistry 9. Don't Believe the Truth 10. BE
I absolutely love how he sounds on Dig Out Your Soul and Different Gear, Still Speeding. Some proper snarl while also belting out the high notes here and there like he used to do effortlessly. Still, I don't think he's ever sounded truly bad on studio recordings. He was always on form in the studio. Live was another story, but as far as his collective albums go, he's great on all of them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 11:20:44 GMT -5
1. Be Here Now 2. WTSMG 3. SOTSOG 4. Definitely Maybe 5. DOYS 6. As You Were
Can't rank the rest of the albums because the vocals in them are way too inconsistent. '(Probably) All in the Mind' is the worst vocal take ever but I wouldn't necessarily rank HC last coz I like some vocals in it.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 1, 2018 12:29:53 GMT -5
1. Morning Glory / Be Here Now...10/10. One of the most distinctive voices in all of pop music. Iconic. 3. Standing on the Shoulder of Giants...Nicely weathered. 4. Definitely Maybe...Hasn't found his thing yet, but he's delightfully snarling on Shakermaker, Supersonic, and Cigarettes & Alcohol. 5. Dig Out Your Soul...With the first two songs, I'm Outta Time, and Solider On, he seemed to be trying for a more restrained approach, with a touch of Lennon and Ian Brown to match the vaguely psychedelic tone of those tunes, and I think it paid off. Fair play to him for putting his punk rock thing aside for a bit to give those songs something a bit different. 6. As You Were...Makes good use of his falsetto. More of this please. 7. Don't Believe the Truth...Have never had a problem with how he sounds on this. Turn up the Sun and Lyla rank among my favourite performances from him. 8. Different Gear, Still Speeding...No real complaints. Perfectly fine. Too many silly effects on his voice at times though (see Standing on the Edge of the Noise). 9. Heathen Chemistry...Clearly he couldn't be arsed around this time. In fairness, the material he had to sing wasn't good enough. 10. BE...Far, far too nasal. I would find it hard to listen to this album all the way through again. Shame as, other than the vocals, it's a pretty good sounding record--for a Gallagher record, that is.
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Post by russiangenius on Aug 1, 2018 14:17:59 GMT -5
1. (WTS?)MG (ideal) 2. Definitely Maybe (it's just too young) 3. Be Here Now (too harsh for ideal) 4. SOTSOG (clean but a bit smooth) 5. As You Were (clean but not the same) 6. DOYS (younger version of new voice, not so... developed? kinda DM for new voice) 7. DGSS (okay version of DOYS voice, nothing more) 8. DBTT (a lot of 'meh' moments, nailed Lyla, LTBL, maybe GGTIA) 9. Heathen Chemistry (poor except SCYHO and Songbird which r definitely nailed cause it's voice from 99'-00' demos?) 10. BE (no power, that's sad)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 15:36:03 GMT -5
Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Be Here Now Morning Glory Definitely Maybe Dig Out Your Soul As You Were Different Gear, Still Speeding Don't Believe the Truth Heathen Chemistry BE
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Post by Tongueless Ghost Of Sin on Aug 1, 2018 15:41:32 GMT -5
Morning glory Definitely Maybe (Mainly because of Slide Away) SOTSOG BHN --- --- --- DBTT DOYS AYW -- BE DGSS (Too much reverb, can't really hear him) HC (SCYHO/Songbird aside, he sounds fucking awful, his voice was still in good shape, but his use of it was really poor)
SOTSOG probably has Liam's second best vocals overall. It's such a shame he recorded so few songs at the time. Listen to the Carnation cover, his Rock n Roll star live in the studio or vocals from the 1999 warm up gigs. Absolutely mindblowingly good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 15:48:41 GMT -5
It's such a shame he recorded so few songs at the time. Listen to the Carnation cover, his Rock n Roll star live in the studio or vocals from the 1999 warm up gigs. Absolutely mindblowingly good. Agree. That Carnation vocal is fucking ridiculous. He just bludgeons it into submission. Also RNRS from the Evening Session in 2000.
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Post by Tongueless Ghost Of Sin on Aug 1, 2018 16:20:40 GMT -5
It's such a shame he recorded so few songs at the time. Listen to the Carnation cover, his Rock n Roll star live in the studio or vocals from the 1999 warm up gigs. Absolutely mindblowingly good. Agree. That Carnation vocal is fucking ridiculous. He just bludgeons it into submission. Also RNRS from the Evening Session in 2000. While they were in that room with the Jam Noel should've got him to lay down vocals and a rough band take to every fucking unreleased bit of music he had xD You're right to call it ridiculous, no human being has any right to sound that godlike. You got the best of both Liams old and newer style vocals in that era somehow both at once. It didn't last long, while he still sounded fantastic for most of the SOTSOG tour there was that period from the warm up gigs to about 10 into the actual tour where he was just tearing it up from another plane of existence. That Carnation cover was completely live and untouched as well...crazy, crazy good
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Post by Flashbax on Aug 1, 2018 17:08:50 GMT -5
Liam was definitely at his best in 1999/2000. What a voice!
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Aug 1, 2018 18:36:46 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry must be the Liam's worst/plastic/tuned vocal effort ever.
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Post by jordan71421 on Aug 1, 2018 19:30:39 GMT -5
Morning Glory Giants Definitely Maybe DOYS Be Here Now DBTT HC
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Aug 1, 2018 20:26:03 GMT -5
SOTSOG.
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Post by jeffrey on Aug 2, 2018 16:32:43 GMT -5
BHN MG DM/SOTSOG (different, but like them equally) HC AYW DBTT/DOYS/DGSS BE (absolutely atrocious)
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Post by Jgrp on Aug 2, 2018 17:02:28 GMT -5
Gotta be BHN closely followed by MG
MG was the beginning of vocal peak. BHN was the peak and SOTSG went below DM level IMO
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 3, 2018 6:07:58 GMT -5
The first 3 Oasis albums As You Were The rest
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Post by LightsOffInside on Aug 3, 2018 6:30:10 GMT -5
In order:
The Great
Morning Glory Be Here Now Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Definitely Maybe
The Good
Don't Believe the Truth As You Were
The Bad
Dig Out Your Soul Heathen Chemistry Different Gear, Still Speeding
The Abysmal
BE
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Post by goletitout1986 on Aug 3, 2018 9:45:46 GMT -5
In order: The Great
Morning Glory Be Here Now Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Definitely Maybe The Good
Don't Believe the Truth As You Were The Bad
Dig Out Your Soul Heathen Chemistry Different Gear, Still Speeding The Abysmal
BE I think you're pretty spot on here except I'd have BHN first - though I can't quite understand everybody's hatred of BE.
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Post by LightsOffInside on Aug 3, 2018 10:21:52 GMT -5
In order: The Great
Morning Glory Be Here Now Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Definitely Maybe The Good
Don't Believe the Truth As You Were The Bad
Dig Out Your Soul Heathen Chemistry Different Gear, Still Speeding The Abysmal
BE I think you're pretty spot on here except I'd have BHN first - though I can't quite understand everybody's hatred of BE. BHN was a very close second I'd say. I actually don't hate BE that much as an album, I just think Liam's vocals were really poor on them. It wasn't the lack of effects or anything, it was his style, he sang more nasally than ever and it just didn't suit the album. Face The Crowd being the key example. FOTF and Start Anew were actually decent vocals but otherwise there was some pretty poor efforts. I would probably be willing to put DGSS below this in fairness.
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Post by Tongueless Ghost Of Sin on Aug 3, 2018 14:55:57 GMT -5
I think you're pretty spot on here except I'd have BHN first - though I can't quite understand everybody's hatred of BE. BHN was a very close second I'd say. I actually don't hate BE that much as an album, I just think Liam's vocals were really poor on them. It wasn't the lack of effects or anything, it was his style, he sang more nasally than ever and it just didn't suit the album. Face The Crowd being the key example. FOTF and Start Anew were actually decent vocals but otherwise there was some pretty poor efforts. I would probably be willing to put DGSS below this in fairness. Yeah i agree. While I think it works on some acoustic songs like Soon Come Tomorrow and Ballroom Figured it was really lacking on other songs. I also didn't like his vocals in those acoustic gigs either. He sang through his nose and had no power, depth or rasp. And when you sing through your nose its much harder to move up and down notes so he sounded quite flat. He did the same thing in the second half of the DOYS and DGSS tours as well and I just don't like it one bit. He's singing from his chest again now though and just sounds so much better. He was pretty damn good for the first half of the DGSS tour and first handful of gigs in the DOYS tour as well. The encouraging thing is he's been able to maintain and even improve it on this tour. Thank fuck he got his thyroid issue sorted. If your vocal chords and sore, dry and swollen a part of your range disappears, obviously with Liam it was the low range. Considering he's been pouring his heart and soul into it for 20+ years I think he sounds pretty damn amazing now days.
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Post by Headmaster on Aug 7, 2018 23:25:13 GMT -5
1. WTSMG? / BHN - Perfect, Liam reach a wide range of emotions with his vocals on both albums 2. Definitely Maybe - Outstanding fresh young vocals, it just lacks his trademark snarl 3. SOTSOG - Still amazing but a bit rough around the edges which worked well for the dark SOTSOG songs 4. Dig Out Your Soul - Surprisingly great vocals for a later day album 5. As You Were - Consistent, ok vocals 6. Don't Believe the Truth - Inconsistent, great on some songs, awful on others 7. Heathen Chemistry - Lack of energy and he sounds bored 8. Different Gear, Still Speeding - Too rough 9. BE - Too nasal
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Post by Velo on Aug 9, 2018 12:23:47 GMT -5
Gonna be weird and say The Masterplan - the Liam songs on here absolutely annihilate and more than make up for how many Noel-sung songs are on here. There's Listen Up of course but also songs like Underneath the Sky where we got a different idea of what Liam could have done vocally. Dig Out Your Soul - Sardy hella processed the vocals on this album but it was worth it. Sometimes I'll listen to the isolated vocals and wonder just what he did to make them sound like they were recorded in the year 2000. SOTSOG - Really wish they did Roll It Over live (((
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