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Post by mossy on Sept 3, 2017 7:19:07 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Sept 3, 2017 7:23:14 GMT -5
Wise words from Liam in that article.... " Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..." Did you read that - REAL Oasis fans don't pick sides. Maybe a few folk here could take heed of that.....
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Post by joladella on Sept 3, 2017 7:44:15 GMT -5
Follow the link to the source in huck magazine, good interview! Sorry, too stupid to link on the phone, but it's in the nme bit.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 3, 2017 7:55:21 GMT -5
While I do think Noel planned to split Oasis months and months before he finally did, obviously Liam is talking shite with the stuff about him and Weller and Marr getting their heads together to work out how to pull it off. Unless Liam suddenly got really into Cilla Black, Marr wouldn't be any help to Noel. And if you wanted to know how to split a band up without catching flak for it, there'd be little point going to Paul Weller for advice either. Just go to any of his gigs and see all his shite beer-bellied middle-aged men 'fans' who stand their with their arms folded, stubbornly refusing to sing along to anything he's written post-Jam - thirty-five years haven't been able to heal that wound.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 3, 2017 8:04:18 GMT -5
Still though, I did enjoy this bit: Liam is in the right here. Some of the stuff Noel's come out with in recent years has been fucking embarrassing. All that bollocks about the Labour party punishing "aspirational" people, and people on benefits with flat-screen TVs... Eesh...
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 3, 2017 9:03:48 GMT -5
Still though, I did enjoy this bit: Liam is in the right here. Some of the stuff Noel's come out with in recent years has been fucking embarrassing. All that bollocks about the Labour party punishing "aspirational" people, and people on benefits with flat-screen TVs... Eesh... I have to say that's the only thing I really dislike about Noel - right wing ideas are abhorrent at the best of times, but to be spouted so ignorantly by someone from a staunchly working class culture is something truly repulsive.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 3, 2017 10:30:53 GMT -5
Still though, I did enjoy this bit: Liam is in the right here. Some of the stuff Noel's come out with in recent years has been fucking embarrassing. All that bollocks about the Labour party punishing "aspirational" people, and people on benefits with flat-screen TVs... Eesh... I have to say that's the only thing I really dislike about Noel - right wing ideas are abhorrent at the best of times, but to be spouted so ignorantly by someone from a staunchly working class culture is something truly repulsive. I'm dreading him getting asked about politics when he starts doing press for his next album. He's gonna come out with so much bollocks regarding Corbyn and the recent General Election. It'll be much worse than when JK Rowling and loads of other celebs I quite like who the status quo is working well for, were shitting the bed on Twitter every night of last year over the direction they perceived Labour to be taking, because, as the brains behind my favourite band, Noel is just that bit more important to me than all those other people. That's why I appreciate how Liam has (so it seems to me) tried to keep himself more grounded and not forget his working-class roots. I dig that he still hates The Sun newspaper, and doesn't trust our current government. Also, I don't think he's ever been snooty about people collecting dole money. Good on him.
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Post by walterglass on Sept 3, 2017 10:53:54 GMT -5
Googled 'Morrissey and Cilla Black' - found an article in which Morrissey compares eating meat to paedophilia.
Nice one, Steven.
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Post by jxing on Sept 3, 2017 11:42:06 GMT -5
Still though, I did enjoy this bit: Liam is in the right here. Some of the stuff Noel's come out with in recent years has been fucking embarrassing. All that bollocks about the Labour party punishing "aspirational" people, and people on benefits with flat-screen TVs... Eesh... I have to say that's the only thing I really dislike about Noel - right wing ideas are abhorrent at the best of times, but to be spouted so ignorantly by someone from a staunchly working class culture is something truly repulsive. I'm so glad that LG doesn't get involved with politics.. it's such a heated topic. If most celebrities would just stick to their opinions, I wouldn't mind it But, it's the insulting, disrespectful, hate attacks that go way too far. It's really best to just avoid it, because it does overcome the music at some point.
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Post by powerage09 on Sept 3, 2017 12:59:08 GMT -5
Weller definitely had a word in Noel's ear, no doubt about it.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 3, 2017 13:05:04 GMT -5
Every single time Liam mentions Noel planning to split up Oasis it becomes more and more conspiratorial. That rabbit hole keeps getting deeper.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 3, 2017 13:13:01 GMT -5
Wise words from Liam in that article.... "Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..."Did you read that - REAL Oasis fans don't pick sides. Maybe a few folk here could take heed of that..... "Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..."
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 3, 2017 13:17:58 GMT -5
Wise words from Liam in that article.... "Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..."Did you read that - REAL Oasis fans don't pick sides. Maybe a few folk here could take heed of that..... "Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..."This times a hundred million.
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Post by Jgrp on Sept 3, 2017 13:19:09 GMT -5
I've said it before but that press conference Noel done made me see another side to him. I didn't need Liam's side to notice or think different. All I could see was fake and bull shit and all very calculated that a lot of people bought, but I didn't. I'd never even considered to like Noel any less than than I did and I still love him but regardless of being the brains behind my favourite band ever, whoever this was I could see it and made me realise there's more than meet the eye. But whatever I'm just happy Liam's doing his thing and that Noel does his thing too
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 13:21:59 GMT -5
Still though, I did enjoy this bit: Liam is in the right here. Some of the stuff Noel's come out with in recent years has been fucking embarrassing. All that bollocks about the Labour party punishing "aspirational" people, and people on benefits with flat-screen TVs... Eesh... He really did say that ? Ahah that sounds like he would be a Macron supporter over here. What a c.nt ! Plus, that's not like if Labour Party was a communist party, ffs... I think we have lost the old Noel some times ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 14:04:09 GMT -5
Money does change the mind set of some people, i´ve seen it happen, even inside my family where´s a part of it that´s rich and there´s the part where i am at that´s mid class. But Liam is just adding some bites to it. For sure Noel had a vision of a solo career, even if it was only on his own desk but i pretty much doubt he forced the band ending. There is a lot of things we don´t know, it was not that guitar swinging that ended the band, that was just the last straw, a lot must have happened behind the scenes that we do not know, they two know and probably Gem, Andy know as well but it´s something probably all parties prefer to keep quiet. Everyone has alternative paths for their lifes in their head, Noel probably had that in his head. Liam also worked outside Oasis for Death in Vegas for example. It´s perfectly normal.
I still respect Noel and like him, but keep politics and social talk out of the way mate, you have seriously lost the plot there.
Deep down i still think they care for each other. Noel still asks about him and Liam does the same, it´s not like they wish they die respectively. It´s like that former girlfriend you always care about but so much shit happened that you just can´t be close to her anymore. Will this feeling ever change between them two? I don´t know, right now i just can´t see it happening. Let´s see where we are at when both their albums tour ends, but i doubt it changes by then, at least they are both making music.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 3, 2017 14:15:51 GMT -5
Seems like the endless rants about Liam in the medias about Noel being a vagina and a break up mastermind is working on some people.
That's how propaganda works anyway : repeat the same shit over and over again and people will believe it.
Maybe Noel asked the CIA also, or Aliens. That will be in the next Liam interview.
Maybe Liam should talk about something else to sell his record for a change. Both were strong characters and that's why Oasis worked. And that's also why they broke up, end of story.
Thing is: WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 14:18:28 GMT -5
Seems like the endless rants about Liam in the medias about Noel being a vagina and a break up mastermind is working on some people. That's how propaganda works anyway : repeat the same shit over and over again and people will believe it. Maybe Noel asked the CIA also, or Aliens. That will be in the next Liam interview. Maybe Liam should talk about something else to sell his record for a change. Both were strong characters and that's why Oasis worked. And that's also why they broke up, end of story. Thing is: WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 3, 2017 14:52:17 GMT -5
I don't buy this at all. Nor do I buy this forums' conspiracy theory of Noel intentionally holding Oasis material for his own solo career (and I don't want this thread to devolve into that nonsense talk once again). www.nme.com/news/music/liam-gallagher-claims-noel-meetings-johnny-marr-paul-weller-planned-oasis-split-2133802Noel has even been on record going back to 2011 saying how much he regretted his decision to disband Oasis. Noel has said that he made a rash decision in the heat of the moment (heh) and has since always pondered that what if he was able to finish up the DOYS tour - do the few gigs that remained - and then everyone take a hiatus thereafter. From all accounts, the fight was kind of vicious - by both parties, I would imagine. But Noel was starting to get on in age and where he could be involved in a cricket bat fight in the mid-90s, he would not be able to tolerate guitars being used as weapons as well as being smashed in middle-age, especially when once considers all the fights that occurred inbetween. Pride and principle, more than anything is stopping Noel from reuniting the band. I think it will happen once Liam pipes down about wanting it - Sibling rivalry personified.
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Sept 3, 2017 15:02:00 GMT -5
I just wish he had something else to talk about in interviews....he comes across a bit Wah Wah
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 15:04:34 GMT -5
Maybe Liam should talk about something else to sell his record for a change. I'm sure he would talk about various things, but the questions are always the same.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 3, 2017 15:22:33 GMT -5
Seems like the endless rants about Liam in the medias about Noel being a vagina and a break up mastermind is working on some people.
That's how propaganda works anyway : repeat the same shit over and over again and people will believe it.Maybe Noel asked the CIA also, or Aliens. That will be in the next Liam interview. Maybe Liam should talk about something else to sell his record for a change. Both were strong characters and that's why Oasis worked. And that's also why they broke up, end of story. Thing is: WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED. Swapping there names around would accurately describe how some feel about it also.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 3, 2017 15:22:50 GMT -5
Bands break up all the time. Not sure why everyone has to beat the reunion drums so loud all the time. First in 2011. Then in 2013. Then in 2015. Now in 2017. It's over. Go home.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 3, 2017 15:26:29 GMT -5
Its not really much of a conspiracy to suggest that Noel spoke to big figures in music he's personally friends with who spilt big bands up to go solo about going solo himself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 15:55:20 GMT -5
Fuck weller
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