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Post by Jgrp on Sept 3, 2017 16:00:43 GMT -5
Noel is rumoured to be joining the cribs and has been seen with floppy dog like blonde hair that has been conditioned for 3 weeks solid. Seems he's taken both their advice tbh
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Post by spaneli on Sept 3, 2017 16:06:31 GMT -5
Its not really much of a conspiracy to suggest that Noel spoke to big figures in music he's personally friends with who spilt big bands up to go solo about going solo himself. It's not really that. It's the fact that every time Liam mentions this, the circle of people involved with hatching this break-up becomes larger and larger and larger, from Noel, to Noel and his team, to Noel, his team, and friends, to Noel his team, his friends, Marr, and Weller, which is what tends to happen in conspiracies.
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Post by carlober on Sept 3, 2017 16:33:40 GMT -5
Wise words from Liam in that article.... " Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..." Did you read that - REAL Oasis fans don't pick sides. Maybe a few folk here could take heed of that..... Wise words indeed. Although they sound a bit contradictory to me, given that it looks like Liam himself is pushing people to pick sides. Just look at a lot of his tweets that include semi-random digs at Noel and/or his music. It always seemed pretty foolish to me, what's the point of insulting his brother's fans (which are a large part of his own fanbase too)?
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Post by spaneli on Sept 3, 2017 16:48:40 GMT -5
Tom-hay-toes/Tom-ah-toes, splitter of hairs 🤓 It's "spameli". Terrible user. Someday you'll shatter like a wall of text Waaaaallllllll of teeeeeeeext The guy who doesn't call other forum member names is a bad user, but I guess you're peaches. Childish really. Good job on eva and mimmihopps for catching this. He's only been doing this for ages now.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 3, 2017 17:08:56 GMT -5
I believe Noel wanted to go solo for years before the split. As was pretty much confirmed by the AA when they said he approached them in 2008.
I find it very easy to imagine Weller at least advising Noel to go solo alot earlier than he did.
I started to like Noel alot less when he did the press conference that was basically rounding up all his media pals for an attempt to put his lies about the split out there and them to soak it up as the truth.
Liam has just always come across as real about it all, like he does everything. Theres no media training, no one taking him aside telling him what he should and shouldnt say (at least not before debbie) and its meant he wears his heart on his sleeve and gets himself in shit but its just real.
Its one of many reasons im so pleased for Liam and all those who stood by him now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 17:21:52 GMT -5
The amount of crap in this thread and on this forum reminds me of the Heathen Chemistry sessions.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 17:23:28 GMT -5
The amount of crap in this thread and on this forum reminds me of the Heathen Chemistry sessions. Take only A Quick Peep.
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Post by walterglass on Sept 3, 2017 18:03:56 GMT -5
Also, I do take shots. It's in my nature to be the fella who cracks wise. To me, it's just good-natured teasing. I understand not everybody receives that well. Summat you will notice, though, if I'm ever asked or told that I need to wrap it in I do so sharpish. Bullying is an awful thing and bullying is about how the recipient feels, not how the deliverer means it. SO, if I ever bother anyone, a quick word is all it takes and I'll change direction immediately.
And that's probably the most serious post you'll get from me.
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Post by LlAM on Sept 4, 2017 0:18:50 GMT -5
Wise words from Liam in that article.... "Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..."Did you read that - REAL Oasis fans don't pick sides. Maybe a few folk here could take heed of that..... "Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..." That makes you wonder why he's got such a grudge against Noel though doesn't it?
It seems like he's picked sides himself and is trying to convince other people of his beliefs.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 4, 2017 3:54:48 GMT -5
18 posts in this thread have been playpenned and you know why. @petergallagher94, I apologise some of your posts had to be moved too as it was in that "conversation". Insulting and bullying on an internet forum, but also in general is something what cowards do. If you have any issue with certain someone, it's your problem, but don't jump on a bandwagon and don't carry on with childish and stupid "activity" called insulting. It's tiring, boring and stupid. We, moderators and webm@ster are working to let this forum alive and to make this place pleasant for everyone. Sadly it seems never good whatever we do. We can't make everyone happy and just like everybody else on this forum, webmaster and moderators have family, job, friends and life as well. I hope we can carry on with exchanging our opinions, love and passion for both Gallaghers on this forum. It's a great time to being a Gallagher fan - Liam releasing his first solo album and Noel's new album is also on the corner. We should enjoy music. Cheers.
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Post by spud on Sept 4, 2017 4:08:10 GMT -5
Yeah but Liam hasnt even met his 20 year old daughter. They're both vaginas in different ways.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Sept 4, 2017 4:43:55 GMT -5
I never believed in the "official" version. Noel is a slimy snake. He cheated Liam and Oasis fans with his lies.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 4, 2017 5:12:35 GMT -5
"Real Oasis fans haven't picked sides. They're just like 'fuckin hell, them two'..." That makes you wonder why he's got such a grudge against Noel though doesn't it?
It seems like he's picked sides himself and is trying to convince other people of his beliefs.
Again, that's a two way street.
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Post by Dom Woganowski on Sept 4, 2017 5:19:14 GMT -5
The amount of crap in this thread and on this forum reminds me of the Heathen Chemistry sessions.
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Post by carlober on Sept 4, 2017 5:44:43 GMT -5
I never believed in the "official" version. Noel is a slimy snake. He cheated Liam and Oasis fans with his lies.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2017 6:00:42 GMT -5
Maybe Liam should talk about something else to sell his record for a change. I'm sure he would talk about various things, but the questions are always the same. There is a way to stop journalists from asking those questions: dont answer them. He's adding fuel to the fire by saying those stupid things. It's part of the promotion, because he knows thy will make the headline for the article.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2017 6:03:04 GMT -5
Seems like the endless rants about Liam in the medias about Noel being a vagina and a break up mastermind is working on some people.
That's how propaganda works anyway : repeat the same shit over and over again and people will believe it.Maybe Noel asked the CIA also, or Aliens. That will be in the next Liam interview. Maybe Liam should talk about something else to sell his record for a change. Both were strong characters and that's why Oasis worked. And that's also why they broke up, end of story. Thing is: WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED. Swapping there names around would accurately describe how some feel about it also. For once i agree with you. 100%. Noel is also playing with it. If they both refused to reply to those questions, it would have been over 9 years ago. But it's that question that always sell the article... and the records.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2017 6:04:59 GMT -5
Yeah but Liam hasnt even met his 20 year old daughter. They're both vaginas in different ways. This one is probably the worst of all to be honest. As much as i like Liam, the is very, very low. Hell, even Noel met her
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 4, 2017 6:21:25 GMT -5
All Liam said was that he's sure Noel would have talked to Weller and Marr about their own big bands breaking up. Not that they helped him engineer it. People calling Liam a conspiracy theorist are falling for one themselves. He sounds very reasonable in the interview.
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Post by mancraider on Sept 4, 2017 6:36:07 GMT -5
Yeah but Liam hasnt even met his 20 year old daughter. They're both vaginas in different ways. This one is probably the worst of all to be honest. As much as i like Liam, the is very, very low. Hell, even Noel met her Having experienced it from both sides, I wouldn't judge liam for it. No one really knows what's gone on in private. As long as the girl grew up happy then who's to say it wasn't the right thing to stay away? There is clearly animosity between Liam and her mother so why stir up feelings that the child would get caught in between. And anyway she's not a child anymore, shes free to contact Liam if she wants to.
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 4, 2017 6:36:43 GMT -5
I'm a Liam man generally, but I wouldn't blame Noel one bit for asking Weller and Marr about how to split from a big band. It's a huge decision.
That's a seperate issue from whether Noel was being disingenuous or otherwise in his public reasoning from the split (and who knows and who will ever know).
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Post by sjc8 on Sept 4, 2017 9:29:40 GMT -5
I was wondering why liam was saying stuff about marr in interviews prior. Now it's starting to make sense. Don't remember exactly but it was something about him not having the bottle to be a front man before and to get over to the left stage. Hope they all patch it up...big fan of all of them.
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Post by The Chief on Sept 4, 2017 10:15:32 GMT -5
I don't believe this for one second. Noel's made it quite clear that it wasn't only that fight that made him leave but a build up. We all saw the DOYS tour. No one looked happy during that tour. They all looked miserable. I for one wasn't surprised when Noel announced that he left. Now did Noel speak to Weller and Marr about being tired of Liam? Maybe so, they're mates! But to think that it was a plot to find a way out of Oasis is horseshit IMO. The rumours of Noel doing a solo record had been floating around for a good 10 years. No one would have been surprised and there would have been no uproar if he decided to do his solo thing. He didn't even have to break the band up for that. Also, Liam's had his versions of what happened. He's been saying that he sung half of Noel's first record, namely Everybody's on the Run which we know Noel was writing during the DOYS tour. So other than Stop The Clocks and Record Machine, which song could he have sung? Also, Noel said in his press conference that he's always been writing but some songs didn't make it on an Oasis record because he would write half and the others would write the other half. That's hardly hoarding songs. In other words, this is a fight. There are two sides, two interpretations of the events that happened, both biased. Unfortunately, Liam's so angry at this situation that I'd be more inclined in believing Noel as Liam might distort what happened. But all in all, like Liam said, I'm not taking sides even if that could seem to be the case here. No one knows what happened in their heads. I just don't believe this version. And at the end of the day, we're just getting more music! We're kids of divorce! Instead of mom and dad giving us one record, each of them is giving us one!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 4, 2017 10:19:22 GMT -5
^ Sensible post and I agree with a lot, except that I don't "believe Noel more because Liam might distort the truth". I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 4, 2017 10:19:42 GMT -5
And at the end of the day, we're just getting more music! We're kids of divorce! Instead of mom and dad giving us one record, each of them is giving us one! The healthiest attitude to take for sure
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