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Post by sgtpeppr on Oct 25, 2017 11:44:05 GMT -5
DOUBLE POST.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Oct 25, 2017 11:44:46 GMT -5
Use? How do you mean use? Do you mean perform live? Nobody has to ask anyone's permission to perform any song live, you can cover anything without permission, he could walk on at Glastonbury tomorrow and sing Wannabe by the Spice Girls if he wanted. Sorry, but you have no idea how the music publishing works and you're just plain wrong. Have a look at the excerpt below: "Performing copyrighted songs implicates the copyright owner's exclusive right to publicly perform a work and to authorize others to publicly perform it. Public performances of copyrighted music at live music venues, with limited exceptions, require payment."I was NOT asking whether Liam can perform 'Wannabe', because it's quite obvous that he doesn't own the publishing rights to Spice Girls catalogue. My question was - does somebody know if Liam has any deal that allowes him to play Oasis songs without any external consent. its a little tricky. technically, he would still have to pay to cover oasis songs live BUT its usually always up to the venues to sort it out. theyll pay various PROs (ASCAP etc) for blanket licenses that cover all songs owned by that PRO, which then allows any act to cover any song under that license. as for official releases (b-sides, DVDs), he would need permission from noel...unless they have some sort of agreement in place, which is quite possible.
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Post by sledgehammer87 on Oct 25, 2017 12:32:03 GMT -5
Because Beady Eye is considered a failure.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Oct 25, 2017 13:35:08 GMT -5
Because it wouldn't help him reach any sort of casual audience at all...
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Post by dennizz on Oct 25, 2017 14:58:23 GMT -5
because it was a shit period for Liam
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Post by SheSaidHerNameWasDot on Oct 25, 2017 15:09:17 GMT -5
Because when you polish a turd, it's still a turd.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Oct 25, 2017 17:32:27 GMT -5
I think the new Soul Love version sounds really great. Plus is my favourite Beady Eye song. Bold is Soul Love 2.0 with a bit of progression at the ending and people seem to love it. So Soul Love is great in the set. But I would love to hear him put another BE song on the set. At least one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 17:55:21 GMT -5
Use? How do you mean use? Do you mean perform live? Nobody has to ask anyone's permission to perform any song live, you can cover anything without permission, he could walk on at Glastonbury tomorrow and sing Wannabe by the Spice Girls if he wanted. Sorry, but you have no idea how the music publishing works and you're just plain wrong. Have a look at the excerpt below: "Performing copyrighted songs implicates the copyright owner's exclusive right to publicly perform a work and to authorize others to publicly perform it. Public performances of copyrighted music at live music venues, with limited exceptions, require payment."I was NOT asking whether Liam can perform 'Wannabe', because it's quite obvous that he doesn't own the publishing rights to Spice Girls catalogue. My question was - does somebody know if Liam has any deal that allowes him to play Oasis songs without any external consent. Only just saw this because someone else mentioned it, I'm not wrong, the venues pay a fee, not Liam, the venue will have paid the fee, so Liam can play whatever he likes. Look up PROs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 18:02:46 GMT -5
Sorry, but you have no idea how the music publishing works and you're just plain wrong. Have a look at the excerpt below: "Performing copyrighted songs implicates the copyright owner's exclusive right to publicly perform a work and to authorize others to publicly perform it. Public performances of copyrighted music at live music venues, with limited exceptions, require payment."I was NOT asking whether Liam can perform 'Wannabe', because it's quite obvous that he doesn't own the publishing rights to Spice Girls catalogue. My question was - does somebody know if Liam has any deal that allowes him to play Oasis songs without any external consent. Only just saw this because someone else mentioned it, I'm not wrong, the venues pay a fee, not Liam, the venue will have paid the fee, so Liam can play whatever he likes. Look up PROs. This is why we won't see Noel or Liam peforming Hello anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 8:18:35 GMT -5
Only just saw this because someone else mentioned it, I'm not wrong, the venues pay a fee, not Liam, the venue will have paid the fee, so Liam can play whatever he likes. Look up PROs. This is why we won't see Noel or Liam peforming Hello anymore. I don't buy that. Glitter was first jailed for child porn in 1999, 3 years before Hello returned to the set. He'll have done very nicely out of the Morning Glory reissue too. It's just a sad fact of life in the music business.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 9:11:57 GMT -5
This is why we won't see Noel or Liam peforming Hello anymore. I don't buy that. Glitter was first jailed for child porn in 1999, 3 years before Hello returned to the set. He'll have done very nicely out of the Morning Glory reissue too. It's just a sad fact of life in the music business. Sorry, I didn't know that.
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Post by supernovastar94 on Oct 26, 2017 9:22:03 GMT -5
FLW is the best Beady Eye song but that's Andy's song so I really doubt he has any interest in singing it..
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Post by garys on Oct 26, 2017 9:38:42 GMT -5
Soul Love has been a nice addition
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Post by cloudburster on Oct 26, 2017 20:47:12 GMT -5
Off at the next exit would be a nice song to follow Paper crown
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Post by mancraider on Oct 26, 2017 21:13:39 GMT -5
He won't play much if any Beady Eye because there aren't enough Beady Fans around wanting to hear the songs. On the other hand the gigs will be rammed with Oasis fans wanting to hear some classics.
Not saying there aren't any, as posts on here prove but numbers wise there is simply not enough demand.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 26, 2017 22:42:55 GMT -5
He has his own good solo material and Oasis songs. Why take up space with something not a lot of people like while you can use that space for something better?
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Post by redvers on Oct 27, 2017 8:51:46 GMT -5
Wouldn't mind hearing Soon Come Tomorrow or The Roller. Other than that he can stick to the new stuff and Oasis covers.
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Post by pliolite on Oct 27, 2017 13:25:38 GMT -5
Face The Crowd, Start Anew, Iz Rite, Beatles and Stones, Wigwam, Don't Brother Me, Shine A Light, The Beat Goes On and Morning Son all deserve to get an airing at one time or another. Some of them are out-and-out classics.
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Post by janedoe on Jan 6, 2018 23:22:46 GMT -5
Technical question: Does Liam have to "ask" the current Oasis' catalogue owner/publisher for the permission to use the old songs that are not written by him?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 7, 2018 0:23:29 GMT -5
Face The Crowd, Start Anew, Iz Rite, Beatles and Stones, Wigwam, Don't Brother Me, Shine A Light, The Beat Goes On and Morning Son all deserve to get an airing at one time or another. Some of them are out-and-out classics. Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong. Beady Eye has some good songs. None of which are mentioned above. What are their classics?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 6:55:09 GMT -5
Face The Crowd, Start Anew, Iz Rite, Beatles and Stones, Wigwam, Don't Brother Me, Shine A Light, The Beat Goes On and Morning Son all deserve to get an airing at one time or another. Some of them are out-and-out classics. Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong. Beady Eye has some good songs. None of which are mentioned above. What are their classics? They haven't got one. Same thing for NGHFB.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jan 7, 2018 12:36:03 GMT -5
Pretty pointless bothering playing Beady Eye isn’t it, other than the odd Soul Love.
Play the Oasis classics and the new album.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jan 8, 2018 13:29:08 GMT -5
So thanks to Youtube I can say I would love if he'd do The Roller, Flick of the Finger or Bring The Light but from what I've gathered it seems Beady Eye was a bit of a flop so I can see why he wouldn't want to add it to the setlist.
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Post by underneaththesky on Jan 8, 2018 14:43:36 GMT -5
Morning Son or Wigwam would be nice
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Jan 9, 2018 13:31:25 GMT -5
I'd love to see Soul Love back in the set.
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