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Post by guigsysEstring on May 30, 2016 15:07:56 GMT -5
His tweets read like Donald Trump wrote them. No matt was right- Partridge definitely Though I understand the Trump comparisons as well mind...
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Post by Flatulence Panic on May 30, 2016 16:03:32 GMT -5
I once heard Chris Evans dissed Be Here Now on TFI Friday.
I've never been able to look at the man in the same way since.
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on May 30, 2016 16:29:53 GMT -5
The sister show, Extra Gear, was much much better. Rory Reid seemed really comfortable in the role and looks like hes been doing it for years. Him, Harris + Leblanc would have been a better bet for Top Gear.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 17:58:26 GMT -5
They could've even kept the name and the theme song, but taken the show in a new direction in terms of format and structure.
As it is now, it's always going to be a poor imitation of the old Top Gear but without any of the magic that made it work.
Chris Evans' defense is actually quite wooden when you consider that a lot of the people watching were only there out of curiosity (myself included, first new episode of Top Gear I've seen since about 2012). Viewer count for a first episode doesn't actually mean anything.
I think it shows just how out of touch the BBC really are for thinking this was a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 18:20:01 GMT -5
they arnt going to get better ratings than that first episode, its only likely to go down from here, it happens with anything, the first show is the decision junction for people because anyone interested in the slightest will watch the first one, some will stay on, others will walk away, with all the stuff with jeremy clarkson, people tuned in to this to see what theyve done with it, next week wont be the same, they will probably see the drop off.
to see how well its been received can only be determined after at least a few shows, to say its a hit after the very first show is foolish, its only a hit if people actually keep tuning in week after week.
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Post by guigsysEstring on May 30, 2016 18:37:17 GMT -5
they arnt going to get better ratings than that first episode, its only likely to go down from here, it happens with anything, the first show is the decision junction for people because anyone interested in the slightest will watch the first one, some will stay on, others will walk away, with all the stuff with jeremy clarkson, people tuned in to this to see what theyve done with it, next week wont be the same, they will probably see the drop off. to see how well its been received can only be determined after at least a few shows, to say its a hit after the very first show is foolish, its only a hit if people actually keep tuning in week after week. I'd be surprised if those tweets are anything more than PR bluster from Chris Evans, maybe a little overconfident after seeing predictions for an immediate flop but as you say it's week one and the viewing figures were always going to go well to begin with as people wanted to see what had changed. I said earlier I don't see how Evans is seen as a bankable presenter, as he is just as divisive a personality as Clarkson but without the advantage of having created his own niche as he developed the show. Instead of moving on from the former trio they have essentially brought in a slightly worse version of the lead presenter with some odd choices as co-presenters where there is no on screen chemistry.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on May 30, 2016 19:01:40 GMT -5
I once heard Chris Evans dissed Be Here Now on TFI Friday. I've never been able to look at the man in the same way since. “When 'Be Here Now' came out we were all so disappointed with the album we opened up a TFI Friday with a defibrillator trying to resuscitate it and give the album some life – [Noel] saw the joke and has never spoken to me since.”
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Post by Flatulence Panic on May 30, 2016 19:15:20 GMT -5
I once heard Chris Evans dissed Be Here Now on TFI Friday. I've never been able to look at the man in the same way since. “When 'Be Here Now' came out we were all so disappointed with the album we opened up a TFI Friday with a defibrillator trying to resuscitate it and give the album some life – [Noel] saw the joke and has never spoken to me since.” Fucking great, who would want to speak to him anyway. His sense of humour is shit and he looks like a cross between a weetabix and a carrot.
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Post by Rain on May 30, 2016 20:31:35 GMT -5
Chris Evans is UK's answer to the US Rutledge Wood
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Post by carlober on Jun 6, 2016 9:14:21 GMT -5
Viewing figures dropped quite a lot for the second episode, and this was Chris Evans' reaction: Wait... didn't he quote viewing figures last week? What a joke
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 6, 2016 9:23:51 GMT -5
Used to watch Top Gear every week, completely forgot it was on last night. This isn't going to go very well is it?
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Post by carlober on Jun 6, 2016 9:39:52 GMT -5
Used to watch Top Gear every week, completely forgot it was on last night. This isn't going to go very well is it? I've downloaded the first episode some days ago but I haven't watched yet. I used to religiously download every single episode as soon as the torrent rips were available (usually 1/2-1 hour after the show) and to watch it the following night. Sometimes I even managed to watch it live using a BBC2 illegal streaming website. I couldn't care less now.
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Post by batfink30 on Jun 6, 2016 10:39:11 GMT -5
Evans is losing the plot,his Twitter rants are a bit erratic. Anyway, Joey isn't that bad but Evans is shit. Last night was better than week 1 but it's still rubbish.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 6, 2016 11:15:08 GMT -5
Evans is losing the plot,his Twitter rants are a bit erratic. Anyway, Joey isn't that bad but Evans is shit. Last night was better than week 1 but it's still rubbish. It's the Extra Gear thing that puzzled me as a concept- if they are going to go the whole 'Big Brother' programming format why not have it presented each week by random Z-list 'celebrities' followed by Claudia and Davina interviewing the cast during a double decker bus race or train challenge? As for Chris Evans, the Twitter quote for last night shows a man selectively choosing what to use to justify his show- last week overnight viewing figures showed "it as a success- FACT", now apparently overnight viewing figures have never been less relevant...... That aside he has pretty much lived in a 1990's bubble himself for years, particularly when he talks of his successes. His last success to me was taking circa £85,000,000 from Scottish Media Group when they paid £225,000,000 to buy him and his backers out of Ginger Media in 2000, aside from perhaps The One Show. He brought well in fairness with classic cars, property and public houses, as well as an ex-wife in Billie Piper who refused to take a penny of his fortune in the divorce. The problem for me with Chris Evans is he has always been a fairly decent broadcaster whose talents are massively overshadowed by an ego that insists that he is the greatest talent to ever emerge from the UK in his field, and cannot cope with any form of criticism, hence the selective Twitter posts and the defiant tone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 11:23:02 GMT -5
those tweets are like when someone wins a game theyre like "yes! In your face, I win!" then when they lose they say "alright calm down its only a game, no-one cares anyway"
as predicted they lost viewers from about 4.3 million down to 2.8 million, good third gone there, wheres your "FACTS" now mah lad?
its not that people "live in the past" but when the past product was MUCH better than whats going on in the present, your only going to get people disliking it, if it was as good or better, people would watch it, simples.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 6, 2016 22:19:53 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Jun 8, 2016 13:07:20 GMT -5
Before you know it, it will be back to the days of Paul McKenna and Katie Price going on it (though I think that around 2004-07 was when the show was at its peak). To be honest, Star In A Reasonably Priced Car was always the shittest bit of Top Gear I thought - mainly for the fact that most of the folk who got the top times were smug arsewipes (e.g. Simon Cowell, JK from Jamiroquai, That Tall Bloke from Dragons Den). Did anyone watch Sunday's new episode? I couldn't be bothered - which seems to be the general consensus amongst folk.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 8, 2016 13:18:18 GMT -5
I watched the old Top Gear's Africa special today on Netflix. Bloody brilliant. Such an entertaining and genuine chemistry between those three - the banter about Hammond's Planet Earth thing was hillarious.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 8, 2016 14:40:17 GMT -5
Before you know it, it will be back to the days of Paul McKenna and Katie Price going on it (though I think that around 2004-07 was when the show was at its peak). To be honest, Star In A Reasonably Priced Car was always the shittest bit of Top Gear I thought - mainly for the fact that most of the folk who got the top times were smug arsewipes (e.g. Simon Cowell, JK from Jamiroquai, That Tall Bloke from Dragons Den). Did anyone watch Sunday's new episode? I couldn't be bothered - which seems to be the general consensus amongst folk. Actually that's a fair point on that segment- I can only remember a handful of guests who weren't up their own arse about being on TG or just because of who they were, mainly British comedians actually with a couple of others. The 'Z' list for bookings these days probably has less pulling power names than even Messrs McKenna and Price though! I haven't bothered watching apart from the first episode to be honest, so can't comment on Sunday which as you said seems to be a fairly general attitude.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 8, 2016 14:43:01 GMT -5
The second episode was an improvement on the first - but there's still no hiding the fact that it needs a complete format reinvention, and to promptly sack Chris Evans.
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Post by matt on Jun 8, 2016 14:45:19 GMT -5
The second episode was an improvement on the first - but there's still no hiding the fact that it needs a complete format reinvention, and to promptly sack Chris Evans. Who the hell actually got paid by the BBC to come up with 'You know what the show desperately needs? Chris Evans.'?
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 8, 2016 15:03:34 GMT -5
The second episode was an improvement on the first - but there's still no hiding the fact that it needs a complete format reinvention, and to promptly sack Chris Evans. I think that by doing what they have with Chris Evans they have killed off any chance of a reinvention, which they could have done when the trio left initially.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 8, 2016 15:07:41 GMT -5
The second episode was an improvement on the first - but there's still no hiding the fact that it needs a complete format reinvention, and to promptly sack Chris Evans. Who the hell actually got paid by the BBC to come up with 'You know what the show desperately needs? Chris Evans.'? Presumably someone who thought firstly "Finally! We have got rid of Jeremy Clarkson" before thinking "Oh, but he was part of it's phenomenal success for BBC Worldwide...what we need instead of a reinvention is someone who is blokeish and divides opinion as well but isn't Jeremy- anyone in production got Chris Evans' phone number?" I think that they were desperate to get rid of Clarkson but equally desperate to retain the pulling power of the show, which generates not inconsequential sums for BBC Worldwide from overseas licensing of recordings, use of name in other countries formats, etc. Unfortunately it has been handled spectacularly badly, and may well kill the show off as an ongoing brand.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jun 8, 2016 15:07:56 GMT -5
Yeah, the second episode was better. For the most part it was comfortably watchable and honestly, I've seen worse from the old show.
I can't say I'm particularly enjoying what feels like an extended version of 'A Star in a Reasonably Priced Car' though, even if the new course is a refreshing change. I agree that it was the worst part of the old show and it's something which I could very happily do without. A fun road trip/challenge, an arty car review & one more random item is all I need.
I'm happy to give the programme time to work things out. I mean how good was season 1 of the old show? I'm guessing probably worse than this... Jason Dawe who?
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Post by World71R on Jun 8, 2016 23:12:04 GMT -5
Chris Evans is UK's answer to the US Rutledge Wood Difference is, Rutledge Wood didn't start off trying to be something that he couldn't be, and is a pretty good personality who just lets his inner 8 year old car fan kid get the best of him sometimes. (Btw, definitely check out Top Gear USA. They've improved quite a bit and come into their own. Their chemistry is starting to really show and it's made for their best season yet.)
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