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Post by mancraider on Dec 14, 2018 2:45:52 GMT -5
Rumours DUP and Labour are in discussions to try and agree VoNC. If they can do a deal it could be a GE end of January. Hmmmm...Do we really want to get in with the DUP? Even to bring the government down. Would Labour owe them? I take it this would have to happen post May’s deal being voted down? I don't think it'll be anything long term just an agreement to not support may in a confidence vote. DUP will be wary of forcing a general election given Corbyns history of support for a united Ireland. They'll just want assurances of his intentions towards NI once he's in power. If May doesn't get a new deal (which she wont) then they won't have any choice but to take the chance any way. No way they can stomach the deal as is.
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Post by globe on Dec 14, 2018 3:53:04 GMT -5
Fuck the DUP. Backwards, bigoted kunts.
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Post by batfink30 on Dec 14, 2018 7:12:11 GMT -5
Fuck the DUP. Backwards, bigoted kunts. Rangers' political arm.
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Post by mancraider on Dec 14, 2018 7:22:21 GMT -5
DUP don't really give a fuck what happens with Brexit. They'll happily see the UK burn to the ground, as long as NI is in the flames alongside them. Their only concern is preservation of the Union. Which is why they will never support the backstop in May's Withdrawal Agreement.
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Post by NYR on Dec 14, 2018 9:01:31 GMT -5
I'm not following it (other than the headline) but how the fuck has May remained? She's a terrible PM. Bring back David Cameron. Wait, what? That pig fucker is the reason why the UK are in this mess in the first place.
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Post by matt on Dec 14, 2018 14:11:10 GMT -5
But from an establishment perspective it is the biggest crisis post-war. Literally everything from stockpiling medicine, markets crashing, raising tensions in Ireland, inflation, risk of employment rights being reduced (let’s remember this is a right wing ideology controlled by right wing nut jobs so why Corbyn is wilfully allowing it to pass by is anyone’s guess) etc etc means that ALL political resources are going towards this. The civil service are meant to focus attentions on education, health, social policy, etc and it’s literally anarchy if everything is being neglected. Anyone at this stage anyone who is informed and is still for Brexit is a fucking c*nt.
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Post by matt on Dec 14, 2018 14:24:27 GMT -5
The whole thing is and has always been about Tory infighting. It's fucking disgusting. If there were to be another vote and we did end up remaining, I don't know how much money's been spent already. If there are 5,000 civil servants working on Brexit, and I suspect that would be a very low estimate (there are 400,000 civil servants) and they end up spending 3 years on it at an average cost of £40,000 per year each (that's again probably low - I'm taking salary plus pension plus accomodation in Whitehall) then that's £600 million in labour alone. We all pay up, so who gets held accountable for that? On a side note, I get really annoyed by people talking about Corbyn's Euroscepticism as if it's the same as Tory Euroscepticism. Perhaps consider why Corbyn has challenged the EU before lumping him in with those who basically just want rid of all the workers' rights. Nobody thinks Corbyn is for the same thing as any of the Tory Eurosceptics, but he’s living dangerously to think that the root of our problems in this country is to do with the EU. This is neither the time nor the place for left wing euroscepticism, and he’d do well to look at those countries that have higher levels of equality AND who are members of the EU instead of wilfully letting this shitshow go on. Most Labour Party members are pro-EU but regarding those post-industrial Leave communities, it’s his job to tell them that their woes are not the fault of the EU or immigrants. I’m sure he doesn’t believe that but to wilfully prop up those beliefs by not challenging them is not leadership. He’d be best placed to (a) look at those more equal social democratic nations that are members of the EU as an example and to (b) perhaps take a leaf out of Atlee’s book, whose government was the most radical yet internationalist at the same time. And the thing is, his Labour manifesto genuinely has the best interest of deprived communities at its heart - I refuse to believe being pro-EU is incompatible. Unless he has visions of a pure socialist state that disregards internationalism (which given the context is the height of delusion that even Atlee acknowledged), then he’d do well to just merely oppose and actually lead in a time of increasing anarchy.
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Post by crisppacket on Dec 19, 2018 16:37:57 GMT -5
Cannot believe my EYES and EARS that Jezza called Theresa a stupid woman- surely can’t be allowed to roam our streets again! Lock him up!!
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jan 15, 2019 15:53:30 GMT -5
Well that's a right old bumming isn't it.
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Post by RocketMan on Jan 15, 2019 18:07:38 GMT -5
awwww you cuties
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 16, 2019 6:38:50 GMT -5
The results last night didn't surprise me, but the number of vote - 432 against 202 is shocking.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 17, 2019 5:31:47 GMT -5
I'm not lying. I feel sorry for May now. All those men like Boris the bear left as soon as the time came and left the mess behind.
On the other hand, I do understand the point of view from EU side. Take it or leave it.
We see England from our sea side over here. It takes only 45 minutes to fly to anywhere in UK from here, yet United Kingdom became far, far away for Europe.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 17, 2019 7:28:44 GMT -5
I'm not lying. I feel sorry for May now. All those men like Boris the bear left as soon as the time came and left the mess behind. On the other hand, I do understand the point of view from EU side. Take it or leave it. We see England from our sea side over here. It takes only 45 minutes to fly to anywhere in UK from here, yet United Kingdom became far, far away for Europe. Don't. Feel sorry for the legions of working-class men and women she's put on food banks and who's lives she is actively trying to destroy. Theresa getting booed over an ornate gold-lined dispatch box deserves little sympathy in my view.
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Post by globe on Jan 18, 2019 7:00:16 GMT -5
I'm not lying. I feel sorry for May now. All those men like Boris the bear left as soon as the time came and left the mess behind. On the other hand, I do understand the point of view from EU side. Take it or leave it. We see England from our sea side over here. It takes only 45 minutes to fly to anywhere in UK from here, yet United Kingdom became far, far away for Europe. We still love our European friends in Scotland. You will always be welcome here.
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Post by oasisunited on Feb 9, 2019 16:14:16 GMT -5
As an American, I don't really have a horse in this race. However, Brexit may very well be worth it because it brought this into existence:
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Post by globe on Feb 25, 2019 16:52:23 GMT -5
32 days to go folks. Canna wait.
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Post by globe on Mar 3, 2019 5:24:46 GMT -5
Canna wait to taste thon chlorinated chicken, mmmm yum.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 11:03:45 GMT -5
There is no Commons majority for remain. There is no Commons majority for a second vote. There is no Commons majority for Mrs May's deal. There is no Commons majority for Mr Corbyn's customs union. There is no Commons majority for no deal.
Any extensions to Article 50 are entirely at the discretion of the EU and they will eventually lose patience. Accidental no deal is the most likely outcome.
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Post by rorymcbride on Mar 12, 2019 11:33:27 GMT -5
O man I can't wait for Brexit to be cancelled at the last minute. The boiled piss of the Gammons will run in the street.
But seriously, the Queen's going to cark it three days before the 29th of March and it'll be postponed indefinitely and then quietly forgotten about. She's been on ice since Christmas 2017 for this very event.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 12, 2019 14:17:49 GMT -5
The UK should hold a referendum to abolish referendums.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 13, 2019 8:08:01 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Mar 13, 2019 19:38:24 GMT -5
O man I can't wait for Brexit to be cancelled at the last minute. The boiled piss of the Gammons will run in the street. But seriously, the Queen's going to cark it three days before the 29th of March and it'll be postponed indefinitely and then quietly forgotten about. She's been on ice since Christmas 2017 for this very event. Christ, imagine that. The Queen carking it on the day before 29th March. The U.K. would become the greatest black comedy sitcom of all time.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 15, 2019 4:58:03 GMT -5
There is no Commons majority for remain. There is no Commons majority for a second vote. There is no Commons majority for Mrs May's deal. There is no Commons majority for Mr Corbyn's customs union. There is no Commons majority for no deal. Any extensions to Article 50 are entirely at the discretion of the EU and they will eventually lose patience. Accidental no deal is the most likely outcome. I think May’s deal will be the most likely outcome, they’re starting to come on board now.
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Post by rorymcbride on Mar 15, 2019 5:28:42 GMT -5
O man I can't wait for Brexit to be cancelled at the last minute. The boiled piss of the Gammons will run in the street. But seriously, the Queen's going to cark it three days before the 29th of March and it'll be postponed indefinitely and then quietly forgotten about. She's been on ice since Christmas 2017 for this very event. Christ, imagine that. The Queen carking it on the day before 29th March. The U.K. would become the greatest black comedy sitcom of all time. It's the finale that this season of "Great Britain" needs to keep people interested.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 18, 2019 14:06:00 GMT -5
Haha Bercow is such a pain in their arse. I can’t help but like him sometimes.
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