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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 17:29:43 GMT -5
"The judge ruled that if Liam returns to music and makes "a substantially higher income", Nicole can come back to court to get her pay out reviewed."
Is it just me or this just utter bullshit? surely when you divorce you divide up what you have up to that point once you end the marriage thats it, if Liam won the lottery tommorrow why should he then have to share that with nicole?
I get that this might be done on the idea that Liam said he wouldnt return to music so its being based on that he actually did have intentions to return to music but I dont see how once the marriage is ended why any earnings after that should be still up for grabs by the other person, I dont see how Liam potentially earning a big amount in the future should influence how much she gets at this moment, he hasnt got the money yet so its out of the equation that will happen when they arnt married so its not hers to have.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 18:56:52 GMT -5
"The judge ruled that if Liam returns to music and makes "a substantially higher income", Nicole can come back to court to get her pay out reviewed." Is it just me or this just utter bullshit? surely when you divorce you divide up what you have up to that point once you end the marriage thats it, if Liam won the lottery tommorrow why should he then have to share that with nicole? I get that this might be done on the idea that Liam said he wouldnt return to music so its being based on that he actually did have intentions to return to music but I dont see how once the marriage is ended why any earnings after that should be still up for grabs by the other person, I dont see how Liam potentially earning a big amount in the future should influence how much she gets at this moment, he hasnt got the money yet so its out of the equation that will happen when they arnt married so its not hers to have. I don't get it either, and what sort of time span does it last for? If liam had a sudden boost career wise in 10 years time (unlikely but y'never know) and starts bringing in the cash does she still have the right to appeal for some of that? unbelievable!
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 21, 2015 20:16:18 GMT -5
"The judge ruled that if Liam returns to music and makes "a substantially higher income", Nicole can come back to court to get her pay out reviewed." Is it just me or this just utter bullshit? surely when you divorce you divide up what you have up to that point once you end the marriage thats it, if Liam won the lottery tommorrow why should he then have to share that with nicole?I get that this might be done on the idea that Liam said he wouldnt return to music so its being based on that he actually did have intentions to return to music but I dont see how once the marriage is ended why any earnings after that should be still up for grabs by the other person, I dont see how Liam potentially earning a big amount in the future should influence how much she gets at this moment, he hasnt got the money yet so its out of the equation that will happen when they arnt married so its not hers to have. I don't get it either, and what sort of time span does it last for? If liam had a sudden boost career wise in 10 years time (unlikely but y'never know) and starts bringing in the cash does she still have the right to appeal for some of that?unbelievable! The point of that particular rule of law was to protect spouses from having their ex (male or female) suddenly "appear" with additional assets after the divorce was finalised, and forms part of the wider England & Wales divorce legislation I mentioned earlier on where it is against civil law to deliberately hide or not disclose additional assets. It is also protects earnings generated as a result of a spouse's work toward a commercial or money gaining venture before the divorce, for example in this case suppose Nicole had worked on Pretty Green behind the scenes with Liam in some capacity and not had shares due to her then husband holding them, then she can make a claim against him for a reappraisal of the original settlement if Pretty Green goes on to further financial success in the future. The time span technically has no end date, but it is worth noting that UK courts generally (though not always) take a dim view to frivolous claims that bear no real merit, or come many years after the initial fact so it is not a given that Nicole would get extra payments if she went to court- indeed I have seen it go the other way where alimony payments were decreased and costs awarded against the claimant, so it is always best to ensure that you have genuine reasons a court would consider before embarking upon such actions. The law varies of course from each territory but by gaining his divorce in the UK I would think unless something extreme comes out of the woodwork he has settled with his ex wife. He should also learn from Noel's mistake with Meg Matthews, whereby after the divorce was granted Noel made some off the cuff type comments that were reported in the press just before HC came out, resulting in Meg going back to court on the strength of those and gaining a bigger settlement- he appeared to have learnt from his mistakes in this 2005 interview with the Daily Telegraph . The lesson here is when it involves an ex and a divorce settlement, it is the one time a "No comment" reply is in a likelihood the best course of action
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Post by cigarsinhell on Dec 30, 2015 20:08:00 GMT -5
Liam should do his wallet a favor--get a vasectomy and swear off marriage forever.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2015 22:38:02 GMT -5
Liam should do his wallet a favor--get a vasectomy and swear off marriage forever.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 31, 2015 0:29:36 GMT -5
Liam should do his wallet a favor--get a vasectomy and swear off marriage forever. Bit late for that Still, at least he can afford to and does pay up for his offspring- I remember him in 2005 saying about paying out for his daughter Molly (by Lisa Moorish) but Pete Doherty who had a child with Moorish as well paid nothing GigwiseThe Daily Wail printed Moorish's response that he had nothing to do with Molly other than financially, although right at the bottom of the article they do clarify that in his Sunday Times Magazine interview he only ever claimed to be supporting her financially, and not in contact. Good to see the Daily Wail providing it's usual emotionally charged meaningless articles that die the moment they have to add even a smidgen of truth in them
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Post by mememe26 on Dec 31, 2015 7:59:35 GMT -5
Let's be honest, Liam is a dick for takin' fuck all to do with two of his children except financially.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jan 6, 2016 22:23:45 GMT -5
I really want him to come back and rub the likes of the Appletons noses in it. Her sister is a fucking skank.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jan 6, 2016 22:42:31 GMT -5
I really want him to come back and rub the likes of the Appletons noses in it. Her sister is a fucking skank. Now I know you are from Leicester as well your force of nature rants make so much more sense The thing is whatever your opinion on the Appleton sisters if Liam does has any decent future financial success she has the opportunity to go back for a resettlement in court. In legal terms this could only really work if Gene is still of legal child age, or it is proven that Liam has had assets hidden from the time of the original divorce, the repercussions of which I have posted before. Other than that she has walked away with the best part of £5,500,000 once the settlement is finalised, and in fairness it takes two to make a marriage, and much as I love Liam, only one to break it in a way that left him little room for manoeuvre in a divorce court.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jan 6, 2016 23:17:50 GMT -5
I really want him to come back and rub the likes of the Appletons noses in it. Her sister is a fucking skank. Now I know you are from Leicester as well your force of nature rants make so much more sense The thing is whatever your opinion on the Appleton sisters if Liam does has any decent future financial success she has the opportunity to go back for a resettlement in court. In legal terms this could only really work if Gene is still of legal child age, or it is proven that Liam has had assets hidden from the time of the original divorce, the repercussions of which I have posted before. Other than that she has walked away with the best part of £5,500,000 once the settlement is finalised, and in fairness it takes two to make a marriage, and much as I love Liam, only one to break it in a way that left him little room for manoeuvre in a divorce court. Hahaa, it is just a demoralizing time to see the man i've looked at as an icon in hibernation like Luke Skywalker. I want to go and find him and give and hold a microphone out to him like Rey with the lightsaber.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jan 10, 2016 8:29:45 GMT -5
Now I know you are from Leicester as well your force of nature rants make so much more sense The thing is whatever your opinion on the Appleton sisters if Liam does has any decent future financial success she has the opportunity to go back for a resettlement in court. In legal terms this could only really work if Gene is still of legal child age, or it is proven that Liam has had assets hidden from the time of the original divorce, the repercussions of which I have posted before. Other than that she has walked away with the best part of £5,500,000 once the settlement is finalised, and in fairness it takes two to make a marriage, and much as I love Liam, only one to break it in a way that left him little room for manoeuvre in a divorce court. Hahaa, it is just a demoralizing time to see the man i've looked at as an icon in hibernation like Luke Skywalker. I want to go and find him and give and hold a microphone out to him like Rey with the lightsaber. Love it!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 10, 2016 8:34:19 GMT -5
Liam's fucked. Not sure why he even got married for a 2nd time. Gene was like 5-6, maybe even older when they got together at the alter. Rockers should stay single. Like athletes. Gets messy otherwise.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jan 11, 2016 12:04:13 GMT -5
Liam's fucked. Not sure why he even got married for a 2nd time. Gene was like 5-6, maybe even older when they got together at the alter. Rockers should stay single. Like athletes. Gets messy otherwise. I think it is typical Liam to get married and not have a prenuptial agreement. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He was clearly in love with Nicole, and as much as it's set him back financially I think it is admirable that in this day and age that a rock star of his fame and fortune just got married and did it all the right way. I wonder if Noely G has made Sarah sit down and sign any paper work.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 11, 2016 12:18:37 GMT -5
Liam's fucked. Not sure why he even got married for a 2nd time. Gene was like 5-6, maybe even older when they got together at the alter. Rockers should stay single. Like athletes. Gets messy otherwise. I think it is typical Liam to get married and not have a prenuptial agreement. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He was clearly in love with Nicole, and as much as it's set him back financially I think it is admirable that in this day and age that a rock star of his fame and fortune just got married and did it all the right way. I wonder if Noely G has made Sarah sit down and sign any paper work. I remember him getting quite annoyed at her giving interviews when he still had to divorce from Meg/not so long after the divorce/when there were rumours of him and her splitting up (which actually happened for a brief period in 2001 or 2002),but apart from that,15 years and 2 sons later,I think they just work as a couple really (now after this comment expect them to get divorced )
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Post by gdforever on Jan 11, 2016 16:09:48 GMT -5
I think that prenups aren't romantic...but they are a good idea.
It think probably the fairest that you'll ever be to each other is likely when you are both in love. And in situations were there is likely to be a lot to split up...maybe agreeing beforehand about what would be fair might not be the worst thing.
Kind of wonder sometimes about people's reasons for getting married spur of the moment after being together for years. I've known many people in similar situations who were with their partners for a decade then suddenly got married. And split within a year or 2. Inevitably 1 or both of them say that part of the reason they ended up tying the knot was because their relationship had been in danger or had been slipping away and it had been a way to try to fix to cracks. And now we know that he was having an protracted affair 2 years later with Liza
I think their relationship dynamic definitely would have changed substantially after Oasis split. All of sudden he's not the one bringing millions of dollars into the home regularly with millions of adoring fans lining up every 2-3 years. His earning capacity is only moderately above hers now I would think. Not taking into account Pretty Green of course, although I don't know how much of that profit he gets to pocket. I would assume much of the profits get sunk back into the brand? I could imagine her doing various bits and pieces and I can really only imagine him as a rock star and he just doesn't have a vehicle.
Whenever I think about that I always think back to that George Strombo interview back around the first album where George asked if she travelled with the band ever and she waffled a bit. And Liam says something about how she used to follow Oasis regularly when they had the best of everything on your...but that now she didn't. It looked like a bit of tense moment...like maybe it was a sore subject.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jan 12, 2016 7:57:22 GMT -5
Liam's fucked. Not sure why he even got married for a 2nd time. Gene was like 5-6, maybe even older when they got together at the alter. Rockers should stay single. Like athletes. Gets messy otherwise. I think it is typical Liam to get married and not have a prenuptial agreement. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He was clearly in love with Nicole, and as much as it's set him back financially I think it is admirable that in this day and age that a rock star of his fame and fortune just got married and did it all the right way. I wonder if Noely G has made Sarah sit down and sign any paper work.Wouldn't matter if he had if she divorced him in the UK, pre-nuptial agreements aren't worth the paper they are printed on if a divorce case gets messy, unlike certain US states for example where they are legally binding.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jan 12, 2016 8:04:01 GMT -5
I think that prenups aren't romantic...but they are a good idea. It think probably the fairest that you'll ever be to each other is likely when you are both in love. And in situations were there is likely to be a lot to split up...maybe agreeing beforehand about what would be fair might not be the worst thing. Kind of wonder sometimes about people's reasons for getting married spur of the moment after being together for years. I've known many people in similar situations who were with their partners for a decade then suddenly got married. And split within a year or 2. Inevitably 1 or both of them say that part of the reason they ended up tying the knot was because their relationship had been in danger or had been slipping away and it had been a way to try to fix to cracks. And now we know that he was having an protracted affair 2 years later with Liza I think their relationship dynamic definitely would have changed substantially after Oasis split. All of sudden he's not the one bringing millions of dollars into the home regularly with millions of adoring fans lining up every 2-3 years. His earning capacity is only moderately above hers now I would think. Not taking into account Pretty Green of course, although I don't know how much of that profit he gets to pocket. I would assume much of the profits get sunk back into the brand? I could imagine her doing various bits and pieces and I can really only imagine him as a rock star and he just doesn't have a vehicle. Whenever I think about that I always think back to that George Strombo interview back around the first album where George asked if she travelled with the band ever and she waffled a bit. And Liam says something about how she used to follow Oasis regularly when they had the best of everything on your...but that now she didn't. It looked like a bit of tense moment...like maybe it was a sore subject. Pretty much that, he has roughly 1/3 of the shares at the moment so it will be a third of any dividends paid rather than of the entire pre-tax profit figures, although with the low figures reported and the current brand expansion plans I would be surprised if any were being paid out at this time. He will probably be on a consultant and /or Director's salary as well, although I wouldn't like to speculate exactly how much that would be. As to getting married after years together I have similar stories of acquaintances doing that, getting married before divorcing a year or two down the line. I can't speak from personal experience having never been close to a long term relationship, never mind married, but I do tend to find from speaking to them that the marriage was part of a last ditch effort to save a failing or failed relationship. I wish anyone who finds love all the happiness in the world, but from my own experience, when it's over it's over, and all dragging it out does is create more unhappiness and take longer to bring to an end for both parties.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jan 12, 2016 21:52:02 GMT -5
I think it is typical Liam to get married and not have a prenuptial agreement. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He was clearly in love with Nicole, and as much as it's set him back financially I think it is admirable that in this day and age that a rock star of his fame and fortune just got married and did it all the right way. I wonder if Noely G has made Sarah sit down and sign any paper work.Wouldn't matter if he had if she divorced him in the UK, pre-nuptial agreements aren't worth the paper they are printed on if a divorce case gets messy, unlike certain US states for example where they are legally binding. I was just comparing the mentality of the two more than whether or not it would legally stand, but that is interesting to know. I remember Sir Alex Ferguson telling Ronaldo to get married in Scotland so his wife couldnt take half his money haha. Just think it is admirable that, even though he fucked up big time, he never made her sign anything like that beforehand.
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Post by andymorris on Jan 13, 2016 9:25:19 GMT -5
I think that prenups aren't romantic...but they are a good idea. It think probably the fairest that you'll ever be to each other is likely when you are both in love. And in situations were there is likely to be a lot to split up...maybe agreeing beforehand about what would be fair might not be the worst thing. Kind of wonder sometimes about people's reasons for getting married spur of the moment after being together for years. I've known many people in similar situations who were with their partners for a decade then suddenly got married. And split within a year or 2. Inevitably 1 or both of them say that part of the reason they ended up tying the knot was because their relationship had been in danger or had been slipping away and it had been a way to try to fix to cracks. And now we know that he was having an protracted affair 2 years later with Liza Agree that people get married for wrong reasons. My best friend was with a girl for 5 years, got married and divorced 1,5 year later. The day of his wedding he had his doubts... What can you say to that As for the prenup, i disagree. If you want /need / thinking of a prenup, DONT GET MARRIED. Something is wrong from the start if you are thinking of "what if". Marriage is about giving everything to the one you're marrying, it's not a simple contract. It's something that you have to stand up to for the rest of your life. People tend to take it too lightly i think. I'm lucky enough to have found the right one, but if i hadn't, i probably would never have gotten married.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 13, 2016 9:36:54 GMT -5
My uncle and aunt have been together for about 50 years. They never got married, thought it was really unnecessary and my aunt wanted to keep her own name anyway. Financially it wouldn't have made a difference.
If you look at it that way..
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jan 13, 2016 13:36:03 GMT -5
This threads getting a bit like Loose Women
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jan 13, 2016 14:59:47 GMT -5
This threads getting a bit like Loose Women Liam's favourite kind
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 15:08:22 GMT -5
This threads getting a bit like Loose Women Liam's favourite kind
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Post by andymorris on Jan 14, 2016 5:22:12 GMT -5
This threads getting a bit like Loose Women Liam's favourite kind He likes giving away money as much as he does with his little boys.
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