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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Aug 3, 2015 9:30:44 GMT -5
You are equating quality with sales? There are enough examples to the contrary which put into doubt your 'facts'. Quality V Sales? It's the fact that the BE albums aside from a few decent tunes were poor, be it the songs from Bell, Archer or LGx. In terms of public perception, LG has pretty much ruined his own public image by fathering kids he doesn't want to know etc,its hard to defend him given his actions. He's not a kid anymore either, he's a 40odd year old man. Is Noel a vagina to fans? probably at times, but he certainly in general comes off as being way more intelligent and a family man compared to LGx which people like him for. Why are we talking about Liam having an affair as though its the reason the public have this view on him? It was like that before. Fair enough it confirmed it for them but let's not make out its the reason Noel and Liam are judged the way they are. I love how while Noel was in Oasis, any comments you read were "they just copy the Beatles, they are untalented" off the great public comments. Then Oasis split and it become "noel had all the talent, this guy thinks he's Lennon". Etc etc yawn yawn. For some reason a lot of people have used their hatred for Liam as a way to justify why they hated Oasis. Journalists have reacted exactly the same. That vagina who interviewed Noel for Noisey being a prime example.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 3, 2015 9:33:48 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with people liking Beady Eye better. holy shit, am I reading this? like they need your blessing. Noels first album was proof that it isn't a fantastic album that gets you sales, its a fantastic bit of marketing. hahahaha pure Gold. Oh what the fuck. You're such a douchebag! One can never win here, can they? You say you dislike them, people will whine, you say you have no problem with them and people will also whine. Well you just go on with your whinig then, if that makes you happy. Pfff. Truly laughable. It's people like you who ruin the forum experience for others. This is a FORUM. A place where you can give OPINIONS. O.P.I.N.I.O.N.S!!
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Post by batfink30 on Aug 3, 2015 9:39:43 GMT -5
Quality V Sales? It's the fact that the BE albums aside from a few decent tunes were poor, be it the songs from Bell, Archer or LGx. In terms of public perception, LG has pretty much ruined his own public image by fathering kids he doesn't want to know etc,its hard to defend him given his actions. He's not a kid anymore either, he's a 40odd year old man. Is Noel a vagina to fans? probably at times, but he certainly in general comes off as being way more intelligent and a family man compared to LGx which people like him for. Why are we talking about Liam having an affair as though its the reason the public have this view on him? It was like that before. Fair enough it confirmed it for them but let's not make out its the reason Noel and Liam are judged the way they are. I love how while Noel was in Oasis, any comments you read were "they just copy the Beatles, they are untalented" off the great public comments. Then Oasis split and it become "noel had all the talent, this guy thinks he's Lennon". Etc etc yawn yawn. For some reason a lot of people have used their hatred for Liam as a way to justify why they hated Oasis. Journalists have reacted exactly the same. That vagina who interviewed Noel for Noisey being a prime example. Noel- One of the greatest songwriters of his generation. Liam- A guy that became a millionaire off the back of his brother.
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Post by cigsandalc on Aug 3, 2015 9:45:43 GMT -5
Aaaaand its a Noel vs. Liam Thread Just out of interest cause im not a lot in the HFB section, is it the same there whenever something happens? I don't think its a case of Noel vs Liam. Everyone is just debating how and why the public have come to perceive them like they do. Sorry, just thought that´s been done already a few times But still, as soon as there are a few seconds of some song by Liam available people feel the need to compare it to Noels stuff. And then it becomes a Noel vs. Liam discussion/debate/whatever.
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Post by Gas Panic on Aug 3, 2015 9:47:07 GMT -5
Why are we talking about Liam having an affair as though its the reason the public have this view on him? It was like that before. Fair enough it confirmed it for them but let's not make out its the reason Noel and Liam are judged the way they are. I love how while Noel was in Oasis, any comments you read were "they just copy the Beatles, they are untalented" off the great public comments. Then Oasis split and it become "noel had all the talent, this guy thinks he's Lennon". Etc etc yawn yawn. For some reason a lot of people have used their hatred for Liam as a way to justify why they hated Oasis. Journalists have reacted exactly the same. That vagina who interviewed Noel for Noisey being a prime example. Noel- One of the greatest songwriters of his generation. Liam- A guy that became a millionaire off the back of his brother. Shots fired.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 3, 2015 9:47:39 GMT -5
It's happening
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Post by underneaththesky on Aug 3, 2015 9:50:01 GMT -5
Oh what the fuck. You're such a douchebag! One can never win here, can they? You say you dislike them, people will whine, you say you have no problem with them and people will also whine. Well you just go on with your whinig then, if that makes you happy. Pfff. Truly laughable. It's people like you who ruin the forum experience for others. This is a FORUM. A place where you can give OPINIONS. O.P.I.N.I.O.N.S!! people like.. ME? I can fairly say I've been more than pretty relax around the block. sick off all this Liam vs Noel crap. and if it's people like me who ruin your "FORUM EXPERIENCE", I suggest you read back your posts in this thread.. you sound fucking scary, let me tell you. and with this very last post of yours here.. I wonder who ruins the whole damn thing for OTHERS. Insane.
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 3, 2015 9:50:29 GMT -5
Why are we talking about Liam having an affair as though its the reason the public have this view on him? It was like that before. Fair enough it confirmed it for them but let's not make out its the reason Noel and Liam are judged the way they are. I love how while Noel was in Oasis, any comments you read were "they just copy the Beatles, they are untalented" off the great public comments. Then Oasis split and it become "noel had all the talent, this guy thinks he's Lennon". Etc etc yawn yawn. For some reason a lot of people have used their hatred for Liam as a way to justify why they hated Oasis. Journalists have reacted exactly the same. That vagina who interviewed Noel for Noisey being a prime example. Noel- One of the greatest songwriters of his generation. A guy that became a millionaire off the back of his brother Liam- One of the greatest singers of his generation. A guy that became a millionaire off the back of his brother.
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Post by cigsandalc on Aug 3, 2015 9:52:59 GMT -5
Noel- One of the greatest songwriters of his generation. Liam- A guy that became a millionaire off the back of his brother. You - The guy who would kill to have a life like Liam
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Post by batfink30 on Aug 3, 2015 9:54:06 GMT -5
Noel- One of the greatest songwriters of his generation. Liam- A guy that became a millionaire off the back of his brother. You - The guy who would kill to have a life like Liam I'd kill to have a life like Paul Gallagher!
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Post by ManofMisery on Aug 3, 2015 9:54:11 GMT -5
Why are we talking about Liam having an affair as though its the reason the public have this view on him? It was like that before. Fair enough it confirmed it for them but let's not make out its the reason Noel and Liam are judged the way they are. I love how while Noel was in Oasis, any comments you read were "they just copy the Beatles, they are untalented" off the great public comments. Then Oasis split and it become "noel had all the talent, this guy thinks he's Lennon". Etc etc yawn yawn. For some reason a lot of people have used their hatred for Liam as a way to justify why they hated Oasis. Journalists have reacted exactly the same. That vagina who interviewed Noel for Noisey being a prime example. Noel- One of the greatest songwriters of his generation. Liam- A guy that became a millionaire off the back of his brother. Trolling alert!
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Post by ManofMisery on Aug 3, 2015 9:57:02 GMT -5
Why are we talking about Liam having an affair as though its the reason the public have this view on him? It was like that before. Fair enough it confirmed it for them but let's not make out its the reason Noel and Liam are judged the way they are. I love how while Noel was in Oasis, any comments you read were "they just copy the Beatles, they are untalented" off the great public comments. Then Oasis split and it become "noel had all the talent, this guy thinks he's Lennon". Etc etc yawn yawn. For some reason a lot of people have used their hatred for Liam as a way to justify why they hated Oasis. Journalists have reacted exactly the same. That vagina who interviewed Noel for Noisey being a prime example. Noel- One of the greatest songwriters of his generation. Liam- A guy that became a millionaire off the back of his brother. You must refink about this. I'll get my coat.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 3, 2015 10:00:12 GMT -5
Oh what the fuck. You're such a douchebag! One can never win here, can they? You say you dislike them, people will whine, you say you have no problem with them and people will also whine. Well you just go on with your whinig then, if that makes you happy. Pfff. Truly laughable. It's people like you who ruin the forum experience for others. This is a FORUM. A place where you can give OPINIONS. O.P.I.N.I.O.N.S!! people like.. ME? I can fairly say I've been more than pretty relax around the block. sick off all this Liam vs Noel crap. and if it's people like me who ruin your "FORUM EXPERIENCE", I suggest you read back your posts in this thread.. you sound fucking scary, let me tell you. and with this very last post of yours here.. I wonder who ruins the whole damn thing for OTHERS. Insane. I'm done talking to you. You're clearly delusional
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Post by ManofMisery on Aug 3, 2015 10:03:21 GMT -5
I agree with most of what liamgallagher1992 says...just I can't be arsed typing lengthy responses.
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Post by underneaththesky on Aug 3, 2015 10:09:58 GMT -5
I'm done talking to you. You're clearly delusional remember , you got crazy because I quoted you on this : I don't have a problem with people liking Beady Eye better. and you go on about WHINING, DOUCHEBAGISM, FORUM EXPERIENCE and OPINIONS? so...between the TWO OF US.. I'm the delusional one?
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Aug 3, 2015 10:24:53 GMT -5
Fair points well argued. However I cannot agree entirely. Its been discussed alot about first album and it contributed a lot to the lack of chance given to them. But I still think under the name Liam Gallagher, The Roller helps shift that album in the way What A Life did. As much as we are quick to say about the fan base. I think Noel owes a hell of a lot of his sales to the most casual of fans. The sort who know little about Oasis. Its been evident to me at gigs ever since I seen HFB. I think Liam could tap into some of that market too with a well thought out promotion. A hell of a lot of his sales? No way...his first week sales show what a big and dedicated fanbase he still has got Part of his sales? Yes,for sure,he got those casual fans on board with What A Life and all those interviews with Johnatan Ross,Graham Norton etc. that showed his witty and funny side And I agree with the fact that Liam could have attracted some of those fans with a better promotion I'm not sure he would have been able to shift as many records as Noel who was and still is seen as the brain behind Oasis and the talented brother songwriting-wise,but The Roller as a first single would have changed a lot, Bring The Light put off a lot of people Hell, yes! I was really curious about what they'd come up with and I didn't have the highest expectations (which in fact should've helped them actually), but what they've come up with, meaning the first single piece of music people got to hear by this new group Beady Eye, was this unlistenable track.
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Post by glider on Aug 3, 2015 10:32:08 GMT -5
Oasis is the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be....and that is it.
God bless.
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Post by batfink30 on Aug 3, 2015 10:32:04 GMT -5
A hell of a lot of his sales? No way...his first week sales show what a big and dedicated fanbase he still has got Part of his sales? Yes,for sure,he got those casual fans on board with What A Life and all those interviews with Johnatan Ross,Graham Norton etc. that showed his witty and funny side And I agree with the fact that Liam could have attracted some of those fans with a better promotion I'm not sure he would have been able to shift as many records as Noel who was and still is seen as the brain behind Oasis and the talented brother songwriting-wise,but The Roller as a first single would have changed a lot, Bring The Light put off a lot of people Hell, yes! I was really curious about what they'd come up with and I didn't have the highest expectations (which in fact should've helped them actually), but what they've come up with, meaning the first single piece of music people got to hear by this new group Beady Eye, was this unlistenable track. The first single off the second album was equally unlistenable.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 3, 2015 10:38:11 GMT -5
A hell of a lot of his sales? No way...his first week sales show what a big and dedicated fanbase he still has got Part of his sales? Yes,for sure,he got those casual fans on board with What A Life and all those interviews with Johnatan Ross,Graham Norton etc. that showed his witty and funny side And I agree with the fact that Liam could have attracted some of those fans with a better promotion I'm not sure he would have been able to shift as many records as Noel who was and still is seen as the brain behind Oasis and the talented brother songwriting-wise,but The Roller as a first single would have changed a lot, Bring The Light put off a lot of people Hell, yes! I was really curious about what they'd come up with and I didn't have the highest expectations (which in fact should've helped them actually), but what they've come up with, meaning the first single piece of music people got to hear by this new group Beady Eye, was this unlistenable track. I agree. That didn't help them either. They would've gotten more attention had their first single been good. This was a band from the remnants of Oasis, so they should've put something decent out. But what do I know, I'm crazy
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 3, 2015 11:36:01 GMT -5
Did an atom bomb go off here or something?
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Post by LightsOffInside on Aug 3, 2015 12:05:07 GMT -5
I DON'T EVEN LIKE OASIS
my life is a lie
*runs away from this thread with flailing arms*
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 12:22:34 GMT -5
I prefer the stuff he did about his little hand.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Aug 3, 2015 12:55:18 GMT -5
I don't even know Oasis? Kde bych ste neco k pití? Ahoj!
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Post by carlober on Aug 3, 2015 12:55:37 GMT -5
When I get in to a conversation with people about the Gallagher's it 9/10 goes something like this People: Which one do you prefer? Me: I'm more of a Liam fan myself People: He's the one that's a dick isn't he? Me: Sigh Noel has been as big of an idiot as Liam has since the split but because Noel is all witty with it and knows how to play the press he always comes out looking the best. I wish people saw how Liam is with his fans, one of the most down to earth celebrities you could meet. When I got a chance to meet him that night, he kept on coming to me asking if I was alright and making a fuss, what other celebrity would care what some competition winner is up to when he's on the piss with all his best mates? Try to put yourself into the mind of a casual listener: what does he know about Oasis, Liam and Noel? He probably knows that Noel wrote most of the tunes while Liam sang on most of them. And he probably knows that the two brothers split after a big fight in 2009. He might think that they were both huge dickheads in the 90s, but if he reads tabloids (fuck them, toilet paper is more worthy) he might also know that while Noel has been making music and has set himself in a normal family, Liam's musical project has failed and in recent years too many pages have been written about his fucked-up private life. This casual listener has probably heard many times a couple of HFB hits on TV (adverts, football, etc), but has heard of a band called Beady Eye only when they split. Judging by these facts (however manipulated and maybe distorted by the media), which are probably 90% of what he knows about the Gallaghers, what could he think of Noel and Liam? I guess that he could say that "Liam's the one that's a dick" and he may even like Noel a little bit. The truth might be different, but he doesn't know enough...
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