0as1s
Oasis Roadie
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Post by 0as1s on Nov 21, 2014 4:21:45 GMT -5
Look how successful Ian Brown's solo career was, especially considering how he was considered to be the least talented one in The Stone Roses. Liam is twice the front man that Ian Brown is, I think he could definitely make it as a solo artist. People will pay to see Liam Gallagher. It'll be something to keep him busy til the Oasis reunion, and I'm sure it would be very good. Lots of guest appearances, maybe Bonehead as his guitarist? People forget that it took a lot of hard graft from Ian Brown to fully make it as a solo artist, Liam doesn't have the patience to build something from the ground up like he did. I think there's a quote from Brown along the lines of 'the grey hairs keep coming but the crowds keep getting bigger' which sums it up nicely for him I feel. Oasis went from nothing to gigantic as soon as Definitely Maybe was released, I think that's what Liam expects to happen again but he's not in his 20s anymore and he doesn't have a ludicrously gifted and fresh songwriter to give him the platform to be top dog when it comes to frontmen. I think he has two options in the short/medium term: 1. Said solo album with numerous high profile collaborators. If it's great then Liam will well and truly be back, if it flops then it really could be I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here time...... 2. Convince Noel to get Oasis back together. Yes it would mean criticism from the usual sources that he needs his brother to guide him, but fuck it Oasis were/are still a colossus and if they did it in the next 3 or 4 years, Liam in particular would still just about have enough time on his side to get away with it. Mark my words, Oasis reforming would be fucking huge in the UK at the very least.
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Post by morning_rain on Nov 21, 2014 4:36:48 GMT -5
the band had been in existence for only a few years. how long of a 'fade' could it have been? I think he might be referring to Oasis. Someone on this forum said that the Beady Eye break up feels like the real Oasis break up. It's basically the same band without Noel, they just changed the name, so I think the fade comment includes the last few Oasis years.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 21, 2014 8:10:11 GMT -5
Look how successful Ian Brown's solo career was, especially considering how he was considered to be the least talented one in The Stone Roses. Liam is twice the front man that Ian Brown is, I think he could definitely make it as a solo artist. People will pay to see Liam Gallagher. It'll be something to keep him busy til the Oasis reunion, and I'm sure it would be very good. Lots of guest appearances, maybe Bonehead as his guitarist? I can see that happening too. I, for one, love the Stone Roses to death but think that Ian Brown solo is absolutely shit - and he still had quite a bit of success. I wonder if the existence of Beady Eye will hurt his solo career (if he does that) - had he done it right after Oasis, it would have been the logical thing, now he has the stigma of a failed attempt at Oasis levels of fame with BDI. Still, any album with the Gallagher name on it is going to sell, and if he gets a few guest appearances on, it could be really great.
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 21, 2014 12:21:10 GMT -5
Liam's just gotta accept that nothing he or anyone else does outside the Oasis name will ever be as large in scope. He will do fine I believe solo. I'm pretty sure he could accept arenas. He can't accept small venues (H'smith appolo size). A solo venture still wouldn't sell out the O2 and that's what he craves. Pretty sure it won't happen. He couldn't face taking a risk on the potential flop, with noone else to blame IMO
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Post by freddy838 on Nov 21, 2014 12:51:20 GMT -5
Look how successful Ian Brown's solo career was, especially considering how he was considered to be the least talented one in The Stone Roses. Liam is twice the front man that Ian Brown is, I think he could definitely make it as a solo artist. People will pay to see Liam Gallagher. It'll be something to keep him busy til the Oasis reunion, and I'm sure it would be very good. Lots of guest appearances, maybe Bonehead as his guitarist? Ian Brown's lyrics always seem to be pretty good to me. I'm not sure what help he has with writing his records though. Liam's songs are at least 50% crap and the lyrics even worse, I mean how many times does he need to tell us that he's singing a song? I love Liam but he'd need a lot of help with writing if he is going to make a successful album. Beady Eye died for me at the end of the tour for the first album when they played Oasis songs. Watching their early gigs back they sounded brilliant live, like a new energetic indie band playing small to medium gigs. It just didn't seem enough for Liam. He just needs a break from it all as he's had a bad 5 years since he basically caused the split.
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Nov 21, 2014 15:02:01 GMT -5
To be fair I honestly think some of their music is great and can compete with any of the crap most bands put out today. So narrow minded.
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 21, 2014 15:13:34 GMT -5
Liam will be having a long break from music for many years with a few guest live appearances every now and then IMO There isn't some master plan behind all this where he's suddenly gonna go solo and start some new venture IMO (I've wrote IMO on a few occasions because some people don't like that I write my opinion the way I do and sounds like I'm stating it as a fact. My comments are purely opinion but that's just how I talk!).
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Post by LlAM on Nov 22, 2014 0:37:40 GMT -5
I heard Rod Stewart will be writing songs for Liams solo album
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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 22, 2014 3:02:55 GMT -5
To be fair I honestly think some of their music is great and can compete with any of the crap most bands put out today. So narrow minded. How is that narrow minded? 90% of the new songs I listen to are shit..music has taken a huge dip over the past few years and I can't see it recovering any time soon tbh. Proper bands don't really exist any more and those which once had a great reputation have changed their style too much..
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Post by GIMH on Nov 22, 2014 5:52:09 GMT -5
The Liam name would definitely lend itself to more sales than Beady Eye
A couple of years back before the Stone Roses reunion shows I was sat outside at work and a couple of people were talking about who was on the bill for the show. And one of them says "Beady eye, don't know who they are'' then a little while later "Liam Gallagher should play." At which point I had to pipe up, but.
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Nov 22, 2014 9:09:06 GMT -5
How is that narrow minded? 90% of the new songs I listen to are shit..music has taken a huge dip over the past few years and I can't see it recovering any time soon tbh. Proper bands don't really exist any more and those which once had a great reputation have changed their style too much.. so so very narrow minded
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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 23, 2014 7:51:40 GMT -5
How is that narrow minded? 90% of the new songs I listen to are shit..music has taken a huge dip over the past few years and I can't see it recovering any time soon tbh. Proper bands don't really exist any more and those which once had a great reputation have changed their style too much.. so so very narrow minded argue your point then
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Nov 23, 2014 13:00:07 GMT -5
I don't think its playing small venues or not being as successful as Oasis that did it, he always sounded quite accepting of that. I suspect its more because the venues they did play were half empty towards the end of the DGSS tour and even after coming back with a decent album in BE the public couldn't care less about them. I thought they did work hard but it must be disappointing if they're getting relatively nowhere with it, I can understand them thinking it wasn't worth the hassle.
Liam's a multi-millionaire and they all have other irons in the fire. Disappointing though.
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Post by spud on Nov 23, 2014 14:50:57 GMT -5
Until Oasis reform I predict that:
he'll team up with one other person and make an album with them he'll sing on other peoples songs
He won't go solo.
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Post by Rain on Nov 23, 2014 17:06:52 GMT -5
I don't think its playing small venues or not being as successful as Oasis that did it, he always sounded quite accepting of that. I suspect its more because the venues they did play were half empty towards the end of the DGSS tour and even after coming back with a decent album in BE the public couldn't care less about them. I thought they did work hard but it must be disappointing if they're getting relatively nowhere with it, I can understand them thinking it wasn't worth the hassle. Liam's a multi-millionaire and they all have other irons in the fire. Disappointing though. Forgot BE with Gem's health, promotion disaster and amount breaks taken. When a album is released it's a non-stop promotion tour for a year. Beady Eye was a stop,go,stop,go and stop again. Fans lost interest due to that activity. Liam can't carry himself as a solo act. He'll be inconsistent as Axl Rose. Noel and Liam both quit on Oasis tours at times. Both guilty of being inconsistent, but Liam a little much so. My guess with Noel's new album slow start will caused sales and numbers be lower than the last one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:18:31 GMT -5
I don't think its playing small venues or not being as successful as Oasis that did it, he always sounded quite accepting of that. I suspect its more because the venues they did play were half empty towards the end of the DGSS tour and even after coming back with a decent album in BE the public couldn't care less about them. I thought they did work hard but it must be disappointing if they're getting relatively nowhere with it, I can understand them thinking it wasn't worth the hassle. Liam's a multi-millionaire and they all have other irons in the fire. Disappointing though. The turnout or lack of a turnout definatly thru him .........i believe as I said above the whole andy gem in band made a lot of people expect oasis and without noel it's" oasis light ". and a lot of people stayed away , sorta like why bother , it's why I said a few years back it was a mistake to carry on with oasis members . they were to close to the " brand " and expectations were then too high , then throw in a lot people probably thinking why see this ( BDI ) when it's obvious once they make up plug in NOELS amp and oasis are reunited , so why spend money on the watered down version ? I don't have this opinion I personally think they both are lacking without each other , but when money is tight I can see where some kids might want to save there money when they obviously saved there cash by not supporting the LP in stores , why support live ? That DEFINATLY had to have liam a bit upset Imo And before someone gets upset , I don't think Bdi were a waste at all i just think a lot of " fans " not as rabid as those of us on forum saw it that way and stayed away which hurt liam
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 24, 2014 2:08:09 GMT -5
Beady Eye site down. A shame, they could have left it up and sold the rest of their stock at least.
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Nov 24, 2014 3:41:46 GMT -5
argue your point then there is so much good music being produced. you want it? go get it.
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 24, 2014 9:14:37 GMT -5
Liam Gallagher & Ian Brown
Debut album is called 'LIAN'
You heard it here first.
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Post by shinealight on Nov 24, 2014 11:27:40 GMT -5
Must be good fot him to be free now, no expectations, no pressure. Wish I was him and could quit my daily job for a year or two to have some time off (without ending up being skint)
The more I watch / listen to Noel interviews the more I miss the madness and confusion Liam always used to bring with him. Seriously, Noel is witty and charming man, but man....he can be so boring it hurts. And there s no other band out there that is worth something.
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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 24, 2014 12:41:53 GMT -5
argue your point then there is so much good music being produced. you want it? go get it. such as?
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Post by standbymoi on Nov 24, 2014 15:57:10 GMT -5
If only Flick Of the Finger had been the first thing the public heard of Beady Eye instead of Bring the Light or the Roller, a lot more hype and interest in them when they first appeared. Could of been a different story.
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 24, 2014 15:59:58 GMT -5
Ye if they hadn't rushed the first album. Anyone who was willing to give them a chance got turned off by the mediocre first album and writ them off. It lived up to their expectations of it probably being shit.
Ah well can't go back.
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Post by World71R on Nov 24, 2014 19:01:12 GMT -5
If only Flick Of the Finger had been the first thing the public heard of Beady Eye instead of Bring the Light or the Roller, a lot more hype and interest in them when they first appeared. Could of been a different story. Flick of a Finger is a really good song, but The Roller would've been tenfold better than FoaF to bring to the public as a first single. It captures the perfect pop rock elements Oasis always had going for them, and with good promotion, would've easily gone to a top 20 spot. Puzzles me why they put Bring the Light out first, and then Four Letter Word afterwards, along with the 2 month delay between the 3rd & 4th singles, and the 4th & 5th ones. They should've done like what Noel did for CY, but bigger with massive promotions & what not, followed by Millionaire, Four Letter Word, and The Beat Goes On for singles.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Nov 24, 2014 21:02:41 GMT -5
If only Flick Of the Finger had been the first thing the public heard of Beady Eye instead of Bring the Light or the Roller, a lot more hype and interest in them when they first appeared. Could of been a different story. Flick of a Finger is a really good song, but The Roller would've been tenfold better than FoaF to bring to the public as a first single. It captures the perfect pop rock elements Oasis always had going for them, and with good promotion, would've easily gone to a top 20 spot. Puzzles me why they put Bring the Light out first, and then Four Letter Word afterwards, along with the 2 month delay between the 3rd & 4th singles, and the 4th & 5th ones. They should've done like what Noel did for CY, but bigger with massive promotions & what not, followed by Millionaire, Four Letter Word, and The Beat Goes On for singles.
They wanted to suprise people with Bring The Light. It was the way of saying "Hey, we sound not like Oasis at all"
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