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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 7, 2013 21:46:04 GMT -5
Bottom line: If Noel can play half a gig full of Oasis songs and get away with it, surely Beady Eye can play just a few. They went a full tour without playing any Oasis songs. They proved who they were. Fans showed up for the music.
Oasis songs won't hurt them. And it might give motivation to the casual listeners of Beady Eye, but hard core listeners of Oasis, to buy a ticket and show up as well.
When you surround yourself in that setting, those songs will rub off on you more, helping to create more fans.
And if there are indeed people focusing only on how good they played certain Oasis songs...so what? Those people likely weren't big fans of Beady Eye in the first pace if they have nothing good to say about any of the other songs on the setlist. There will be plenty more people remarking how good BE songs were.
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Post by noasabian on Nov 7, 2013 21:48:48 GMT -5
Great setlist tonight, even tho i'd love to give Columbia a listen they way it was recently performed. I'm going to the Olympia tomorrow, and i'll be recording as many songs as i can. Hope to see some of you there. Stay tuned for videos
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Post by Digsy's Dinner on Nov 7, 2013 22:05:05 GMT -5
Brilliant set. And when a good soul gets to listen to Liam sing Live Forever for the first time, or the 20th, it's really something, iconic in every meaning of the word, after all, "Its just Rock N Roll" Bring on Portsmouth!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 7, 2013 22:31:56 GMT -5
Bottom line: If Noel can play half a gig full of Oasis songs and get away with it, surely Beady Eye can play just a few. They went a full tour without playing any Oasis songs. They proved who they were. Fans showed up for the music. Oasis songs won't hurt them. And it might give motivation to the casual listeners of Beady Eye, but hard core listeners of Oasis, to buy a ticket and show up as well. When you surround yourself in that setting, those songs will rub off on you more, helping to create more fans. And if there are indeed people focusing only on how good they played certain Oasis songs...so what? Those people likely weren't big fans of Beady Eye in the first pace if they have nothing good to say about any of the other songs on the setlist. There will be plenty more people remarking how good BE songs were. Well to be fair to Noel, he did write those songs and sang lead on studio versions for the majority of the ones he performed on the HFB tour. Remember, Noel walked out on them. It's a pride thing to not have to rely on his songs to create a buzz or sell a gig out. Noel also didn't have enough songs to fill a 90 minute set yet. He has mentioned many times that on his next tour, he will play only 1-2 of his Oasis songs. I believe him on that. Besides, most fans were fired up about him playing Freaky Teeth, ASGOG, Alone On A Rope and LTLSALOM. If LAG want to play Oasid songs I prefer they perform the ones they wrote. Got plenty of killer tunes to pick from (Turn Up The Sun, Eyeball Tickler, Songbird, Boy With The Blues, I'm Outta Time, A Bell Will Ring).
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Post by mkoasis on Nov 8, 2013 0:30:30 GMT -5
I'm pretty 50/50 on Gimme Shelter, after listening to it. I love that they tried something new and gave us a surprise, and I think they play it well (sounds like Andy on lead guitar) but I don't think the song is a good fit for Liam's voice. No matter how good he may sound on it (and i dont think its great here really), it will always pale in comparison to the Mick Jagger and the girl (whats her name) with the fantastical vocals.
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Post by rekrelf on Nov 8, 2013 0:57:27 GMT -5
What was the complete setlist now?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 8, 2013 1:21:46 GMT -5
So they played Cigarettes and Alcohol? Brillant
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Post by ezzle on Nov 8, 2013 3:03:30 GMT -5
Shine a Light
Four Letter Word
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Post by hasseg on Nov 8, 2013 3:59:55 GMT -5
What was the complete setlist now? White Smoke(Intro) Flick of the Finger Face the Crowd Four Letter Word Soul Love Second Bite of the Apple Iz Rite Shine a Light Live Forever The World's Not Set In Stone I'm Just Saying Soon Come Tomorrow Cigarettes & Alcohol The Roller Start Anew Bring the Light Wigwam ----------------------- Dreaming of Some Space Gimme Shelter
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Post by Gergely on Nov 8, 2013 4:07:23 GMT -5
I'm pretty 50/50 on Gimme Shelter, after listening to it. I love that they tried something new and gave us a surprise, and I think they play it well (sounds like Andy on lead guitar) but I don't think the song is a good fit for Liam's voice. No matter how good he may sound on it (and i dont think its great here really), it will always pale in comparison to the Mick Jagger and the girl (whats her name) with the fantastical vocals. I agree with that. Gimme Shelter for me is not memorable because of Jagger but the amazing female vocals, which are IMO one of the best in rock. And the girl's name escapes me as well I think the song itself is good for Liam, but it misses those crazy additional vocals.
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Nov 8, 2013 4:13:32 GMT -5
Gimme Shelter was pretty horrendous but fair play to them for trying to give us something different.
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Post by ezzle on Nov 8, 2013 4:18:59 GMT -5
Clip of Live Forever
He sounds good.
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Post by themagpie on Nov 8, 2013 4:51:33 GMT -5
was at the gig last night!! wasnt expecting C&A.. crowd was in great voice as was liam.. was at jake bugg on monday night and have to say as good as he was beady eye were better!! had a great night!
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Post by bardes on Nov 8, 2013 6:14:56 GMT -5
Cigarettes and Alcohol? Fuck yeah, I wanted to hear it finally. Gimme Shelter is biiig surprise, but is not good song for Liam. I love this song. IT'S JUST ROCK N ROLL. (but jesus, this solo at the end is horrible... Noel, please come back )
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Post by psj3809 on Nov 8, 2013 6:27:49 GMT -5
...Just to add to that is the important thing to remember is the different kind of motives. Even if it *is* catharsis, it still is net loss for the participants, rather than any kind of meaningful transference, anything worth learning from. It is one thing to objectify another's taste, it is another thing to decimate it through some personal, ulterior, empty motive. I even highlighted the text and chose language-english but still i dont get what you're talking about. Could we have normal english ? Anyway cant wait to see Beady Eye next week in Manchester and then the week after in London. People moaning about Beady Eye turning into an 'Oasis covers' band, pathetic Yesterday was 19 songs, two Oasis ones and one Stones cover. 16 Beady Eye songs. Sounds good
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Post by shinealight on Nov 8, 2013 6:54:26 GMT -5
Judging from what I've seen on youtube, briliant gig. 2 Oasis songs? Not a fan of playing Noel penned songs, but fuck that.They have proved thay can do without them so why not. Gimme Shelter? Really good cover. There is not Lisa Fischer, but overall it was nice little surprise. Agree with the post above, some ppl here are just fucking miserable c*nts. It was first BE gig after such a long time and still some of u are.. fucking..."they should not be playing oasis songs, gimme shelter is a bad choice, solo during C&A is horrible"... It was important gig for BE after some turbulent times and I 'm glad it was all right. Liam sounds good , I'm happy, keep it up at least till London gig
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Post by shinealight on Nov 8, 2013 7:24:09 GMT -5
Cigarettes and Alcohol? Fuck yeah, I wanted to hear it finally. Gimme Shelter is biiig surprise, but is not good song for Liam. I love this song. IT'S JUST ROCK N ROLL. (but jesus, this solo at the end is horrible... Noel, please come back ) Maybe u have better technique than Andy as well? Holy shit, how come you're not a pro sesion musician Sorry just couldn't resist
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 7:25:29 GMT -5
Sounded like a great gig. Liam's sounding like he did on the DGSS tour again, not weak and nasal on the soft songs or off key on the rockers like at the start of this one. To be fair I think Liam is looking a lot happier recently and I think that's showing in his recent performances
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 8, 2013 7:36:24 GMT -5
...Just to add to that is the important thing to remember is the different kind of motives. Even if it *is* catharsis, it still is net loss for the participants, rather than any kind of meaningful transference, anything worth learning from. It is one thing to objectify another's taste, it is another thing to decimate it through some personal, ulterior, empty motive. I even highlighted the text and chose language-english but still i dont get what you're talking about. Could we have normal english ? Anyway cant wait to see Beady Eye next week in Manchester and then the week after in London. People moaning about Beady Eye turning into an 'Oasis covers' band, pathetic Yesterday was 19 songs, two Oasis ones and one Stones cover. 16 Beady Eye songs. Sounds good And yet all people are talking about are the two Noel written Oasis songs and Gimme Shelter. I think that is what people moan about. Beady Eye has their own material people should be discussing. LAG even wrote some kick ass Oasis tunes but they instead choose to play music from the man who quit on them.
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Post by steofwolvo on Nov 8, 2013 7:58:45 GMT -5
I even highlighted the text and chose language-english but still i dont get what you're talking about. Could we have normal english ? Anyway cant wait to see Beady Eye next week in Manchester and then the week after in London. People moaning about Beady Eye turning into an 'Oasis covers' band, pathetic Yesterday was 19 songs, two Oasis ones and one Stones cover. 16 Beady Eye songs. Sounds good And yet all people are talking about are the two Noel written Oasis songs and Gimme Shelter. I think that is what people moan about. Beady Eye has their own material people should be discussing. LAG even wrote some kick ass Oasis tunes but they instead choose to play music from the man who quit on them. I agree although thats the peoples fault not the bands, no problem with them doing a couple of oasis tunes (would prefer ones theyve penned but not that fussed) what i do/will have a problem with is idiots who are there (or just talk about after) for those oasis songs. I've only seen em once since they started playing oasis tunes (Camden earlier this year) and it wasnt a problem but if it gets to the point where half the crowd are just nobheads there to see oasis songs (cuz they missed the boat on oasis) then I'll be pissed off. Saying that I still can't wait, roll on 18th November Wolverhampton!
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Post by eva on Nov 8, 2013 7:58:47 GMT -5
I even highlighted the text and chose language-english but still i dont get what you're talking about. Could we have normal english ? Anyway cant wait to see Beady Eye next week in Manchester and then the week after in London. People moaning about Beady Eye turning into an 'Oasis covers' band, pathetic Yesterday was 19 songs, two Oasis ones and one Stones cover. 16 Beady Eye songs. Sounds good And yet all people are talking about are the two Noel written Oasis songs and Gimme Shelter. I think that is what people moan about. Beady Eye has their own material people should be discussing. LAG even wrote some kick ass Oasis tunes but they instead choose to play music from the man who quit on them. I think that reflects more on the people than Beady Eye to be honest. They're nitpicky and are waiting for anything to criticize instead on focusing on the bright side. They only played 2 (!!) Oasis songs. The horror! Are you really telling me you've rather have them playing A Bell will Ring and Turn Up The Sun than Live Forever or Cigarettes & Alcohol?
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Post by steofwolvo on Nov 8, 2013 8:06:31 GMT -5
And yet all people are talking about are the two Noel written Oasis songs and Gimme Shelter. I think that is what people moan about. Beady Eye has their own material people should be discussing. LAG even wrote some kick ass Oasis tunes but they instead choose to play music from the man who quit on them. I think that reflects more on the people than Beady Eye to be honest. They're nitpicky and are waiting for anything to criticize instead on focusing on the bright side. They only played 2 (!!) Oasis songs. The horror! Are you really telling me you've rather have them playing A Bell will Ring and Turn Up The Sun than Live Forever or Cigarettes & Alcohol? I am! (although I'd prefer Eyeball Tickler and Born On A Different Cloud) saw Cigarrettes & Alcohol and Live Forever shit loads of times of times the others less so (Eyeball Tickler never) Agree with your sentiments about people nitpicking though, fuck it it is what it is I'm not gonna lie I'll be jumping around like a mad man with the best of them to C&A come 18th November! (But I also will be to tunes such as Four Letter Word, Iz Rite, The Worlds Not Set In Stone etc. if you get my point)
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Nov 8, 2013 8:15:10 GMT -5
This is getting pathetic. Noel WROTE the songs he is singing on tour. These idiots have enough good songs THEY WROTE for Oasis (songbird, i'm out of time, born on a different cloud, turn up the sun, boy with the blues, a bell will ring)that would sound good in concert,yet they choose the safe and predictable option to play classic songs that their supposed enemy wrote.
They really are sad at this point,although the last album could have been miles better if the bonus tracks were on the album instead of forgetable shit like shine a light and ballroom figured in my opinion.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 8, 2013 8:15:27 GMT -5
And yet all people are talking about are the two Noel written Oasis songs and Gimme Shelter. I think that is what people moan about. Beady Eye has their own material people should be discussing. LAG even wrote some kick ass Oasis tunes but they instead choose to play music from the man who quit on them. I think that reflects more on the people than Beady Eye to be honest. They're nitpicky and are waiting for anything to criticize instead on focusing on the bright side. They only played 2 (!!) Oasis songs. The horror! Are you really telling me you've rather have them playing A Bell will Ring and Turn Up The Sun than Live Forever or Cigarettes & Alcohol? I'd prefer no Noel written songs. It's a pride thing. I'd much rather them play Turn Up The Sun, Eyeball Tickler and Boy With The Blues over Oasis songs I heard in concert 15 years ago that have since been played on every major tour. I've given Beady Eye plenty of positive comments ranging from their own material to good Oasis LAG tunes.
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Post by Rolo on Nov 8, 2013 8:18:33 GMT -5
If you can't just enjoy Liam fucking Gallagher singing the songs he brought to life and the songs we all are meant to love you're fucking idiots.
Crazy.
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