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Post by Didi on Nov 7, 2013 17:49:17 GMT -5
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Post by millerbud on Nov 7, 2013 17:54:22 GMT -5
Better question, is Gem still rocking that kick ass beard? What a gig! Gem is still rocking the beatd
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 7, 2013 18:03:38 GMT -5
Better question, is Gem still rocking that kick ass beard? What a gig! Gem is still rocking the beatd Excellent! I preferred his 90 days out on sea U-Boat look.
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Post by Shockmaster on Nov 7, 2013 18:12:53 GMT -5
I'm one of the pricks now only going for Oasis songs, really... I have both Beady Eye albums, but I don't think a great deal of them. What oasis tunes did they do? Just Live Forever and Cigarettes and Alcohol? Or did they do Morning Glory and Rock 'n' Roll Star as well?
Also, I think it's quite insulting that they even thought of doing Gimme Shelter, let alone actually played it.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2013 18:13:13 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2013 18:14:30 GMT -5
Gimme Shelter!
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Post by spaneli on Nov 7, 2013 18:25:12 GMT -5
i understand the excitement, snd i love them Oasis tunes but i would wanna hear the new BE songs live I know it is hard but they need to establish their own identity where people are excited to hear their own compositions. People losing their shit over them playing Oasis songs we have all heard a billion times between 1994-2009 doesn't serve Beady Eye well in my opinion. I know I am in the minority on this subject. I'm happy they've gotten a bit of publicity. They definitely needed it coming out this long stretch without any real mark. I don't mind them getting more attention for Oasis songs and Gimme Shelter. As I said, I think they really needed it. They needed a big night with Gem coming back. And playing some popular songs that aren't Beady Eye's helped to do it. They have the rest of the tour to forge their own path. However, I do agree that they have to forge their own path and soon. I agree they are a niche act and I have been saying it for a couple of years now. At album two, with them pushing to find their own sound, I think they should really try to find their own audience too. And I know that's difficult while touring. However, I do not believe playing Oasis songs keeps them from finding their own audience, look at Noel. What I think they need to do is to do what Noel did and play with different acts for the sake of breaking into other fanbases. I don't think they need to headline every date. I think being a support slot for a different artist with only a somewhat similar fanbase would do them a lot of good. More good than dropping the idea of play Oasis songs.
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Post by Didi on Nov 7, 2013 18:25:20 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2013 18:30:21 GMT -5
I'm one of the pricks now only going for Oasis songs, really... I have both Beady Eye albums, but I don't think a great deal of them. What oasis tunes did they do? Just Live Forever and Cigarettes and Alcohol? Or did they do Morning Glory and Rock 'n' Roll Star as well? Also, I think it's quite insulting that they even thought of doing Gimme Shelter, let alone actually played it. Why and how is it insulting in anyway to do a cover of a great song for your fans in the room? Are you going to go to the toilet when they play Gimmie Shelter Tom?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 7, 2013 18:33:38 GMT -5
I know it is hard but they need to establish their own identity where people are excited to hear their own compositions. People losing their shit over them playing Oasis songs we have all heard a billion times between 1994-2009 doesn't serve Beady Eye well in my opinion. I know I am in the minority on this subject. I'm happy they've gotten a bit of publicity. They definitely needed it coming out this long stretch without any real mark. I don't mind them getting more attention for Oasis songs and Gimme Shelter. As I said, I think they really needed it. They needed a big night with Gem coming back. And playing some popular songs that aren't Beady Eye's helped to do it. They have the rest of the tour to forge their own path. However, I do agree that they have to forge their own path and soon. I agree they are a niche act and I have been saying it for a couple of years now. At album two, with them pushing to find their own sound, I think they should really try to find their own audience too. And I know that's difficult while touring. However, I do not believe playing Oasis songs keeps them from finding their own audience, look at Noel. What I think they need to do is to do what Noel did and play with different acts for the sake of breaking into other fanbases. I don't think they need to headline every date. I think being a support slot for a different artist with only a somewhat similar fanbase would do them a lot of good. More good than dropping the idea of play Oasis songs. I have a hunch this isn't a one night sort of thing. I believe Beady Eye will continue to play songs like Live Forever, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Morning Glory and Rock n Roll Star on this tour. They have the right to do that if they choose but you are right, long term it won't help them at all. Can we get some USA tour dates already!?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2013 18:36:38 GMT -5
I'm happy they've gotten a bit of publicity. They definitely needed it coming out this long stretch without any real mark. I don't mind them getting more attention for Oasis songs and Gimme Shelter. As I said, I think they really needed it. They needed a big night with Gem coming back. And playing some popular songs that aren't Beady Eye's helped to do it. They have the rest of the tour to forge their own path. However, I do agree that they have to forge their own path and soon. I agree they are a niche act and I have been saying it for a couple of years now. At album two, with them pushing to find their own sound, I think they should really try to find their own audience too. And I know that's difficult while touring. However, I do not believe playing Oasis songs keeps them from finding their own audience, look at Noel. What I think they need to do is to do what Noel did and play with different acts for the sake of breaking into other fanbases. I don't think they need to headline every date. I think being a support slot for a different artist with only a somewhat similar fanbase would do them a lot of good. More good than dropping the idea of play Oasis songs. I have a hunch this isn't a one night sort of thing. I believe Beady Eye will continue to play songs like Live Forever, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Morning Glory and Rock n Roll Star on this tour. They have the right to do that if they choose but you are right, long term it won't help them at all. Can we get some USA tour dates already!? I'm not sure it will really harm them tbh. Playing a few Oasis songs could well give them access to Oasis fans who just didn't bother with Beady Eye. And a lot of those songs sound really great in the live setting.
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Post by Capering Klown on Nov 7, 2013 18:44:38 GMT -5
I don't see the problem with it. I'm going (presumably at some point there'll be a NA tour) for both Beady Eye songs and the inevitable Oasis songs (which are undeniably better). I'd go regardless. I really doubt there are few if any Oasis/casual fans that wouldn't go see BE unless they play *two* Oasis songs in their set. They're just icing to the fans that see them and they enrich the show. No need to deny their past. They're generally the highlight of Noel's shows and don't see why they shouldn't be for BE, even if Noel wrote them.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2013 18:47:14 GMT -5
I don't see the problem with it. I'm going (presumably at some point there'll be a NA tour) for both Beady Eye songs and the inevitable Oasis songs (which are undeniably better). I'd go regardless. I really doubt there are few if any Oasis/casual fans that wouldn't go see BE unless they play *two* Oasis songs in their set. They're just icing to the fans that see them and they enrich the show. No need to deny their past. They're generally the highlight of Noel's shows and don't see why they shouldn't be for BE, even if Noel wrote them. I didn't think that would be the case either mate but judging from what I'm seeing on twitter a lot of people think that way.
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Post by lavan1984 on Nov 7, 2013 18:49:37 GMT -5
Dreaming of some space was in the setlist?? cool
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 7, 2013 18:57:54 GMT -5
I have a hunch this isn't a one night sort of thing. I believe Beady Eye will continue to play songs like Live Forever, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Morning Glory and Rock n Roll Star on this tour. They have the right to do that if they choose but you are right, long term it won't help them at all. Can we get some USA tour dates already!? I'm not sure it will really harm them tbh. Playing a few Oasis songs could well give them access to Oasis fans who just didn't bother with Beady Eye. And a lot of those songs sound really great in the live setting. It might not hurt them but it won't advance them either in my opinion if all people talk about after their gigs are the Oasis songs they performed. Hopefully that will fade and people will be talking about how epic Wigwam was or how sinister Liam sounds during Flick of The Finger or how they busted out In The Bubble With A Bullet. That's the type of feedback I want people talking about.
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Post by Didi on Nov 7, 2013 19:02:02 GMT -5
Dreaming of some space was in the setlist?? cool it was just the outro
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Post by zgb on Nov 7, 2013 19:02:19 GMT -5
Gimme Shelter. Now that's a cover, brilliant!
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Post by icebreath on Nov 7, 2013 19:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2013 19:07:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure it will really harm them tbh. Playing a few Oasis songs could well give them access to Oasis fans who just didn't bother with Beady Eye. And a lot of those songs sound really great in the live setting. It might not hurt them but it won't advance them either in my opinion if all people talk about after their gigs are the Oasis songs they performed. Hopefully that will fade and people will be talking about how epic Wigwam was or how sinister Liam sounds during Flick of The Finger or how they busted out In The Bubble With A Bullet. That's the type of feedback I want people talking about. Yeah I agree, I would much prefer that to. But if the Oasis songs are getting people to the gigs who wouldn't usually go then hopefully they'll be impressed by how good the BE songs sound.
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Post by bazza1 on Nov 7, 2013 19:15:21 GMT -5
Long time lurker on here but never posted. I've seen Beady eye 3 times now and I have enjoyed it overall. However they day they started playing Noel written Oasis songs they became a busted flush. Beady eye now have 2 albums worth of material plus many Liam, Andy Gem Oasis tunes to bump up their set. Nothing wrong with dropping in Turn up the Sun, or Im Outta time, Songbird etc for the hardcore. But I think after this tour they are done and have become what they originally wanted to avoid. An Oasis tribute band
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Post by psj3809 on Nov 7, 2013 19:38:39 GMT -5
Why do people have to analyse things so much ? Just enjoy the gigs. If people aren't whinging about Liam's voice it's something else. Some people sound like a bunch of girls arguing who they fancy most in one direction it's pathetic
The gigs a great mix of beady eye albums and some oasis songs and covers
Just enjoy
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Post by heathenglory on Nov 7, 2013 19:47:39 GMT -5
Sorry bazza1 but I think you're wrong. Hammersmith on the 21st will be my 7th time of seeing them and each gig has been great. I agree that there should be a few more songs from DGSS in the setlist and would love for some of the B-sides to also be in there, however this Noel written Oasis songs vs Liam,Gem,Andy written Oasis songs is nonsense. For me the key thing is in there plain to see- they're OASIS songs. Yes Noel may have written them but it was Liam's voice that made them so well loved and played a massive part as OASIS became the biggest band on the planet. For as much as "There wouldn't have been any Oasis without Noel" you can also say the same of Liam. He surely must be proud of those songs so why shouldn't they be included in the set (Liam even said in interview) "I feel they're just as much my songs as they are Noel's. Tonight's setlist contained 17 full songs of which 14 were Beady Eye's so hardly an Oasis tribute band. DGSS album was good, BE was brilliant and OASIS were the best so having a mixture of all 3 is surely something to saviour.
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Post by Bellboy on Nov 7, 2013 19:56:47 GMT -5
Vocals are sounding great!
Start Anew -
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Post by dennizz on Nov 7, 2013 20:06:36 GMT -5
always thought start anew was about nicole
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Post by olesiadudnik on Nov 7, 2013 20:54:27 GMT -5
Why do people have to analyse things so much ? Just enjoy the gigs. If people aren't whinging about Liam's voice it's something else. Some people sound like a bunch of girls arguing who they fancy most in one direction it's pathetic The gigs a great mix of beady eye albums and some oasis songs and covers Just enjoy Burke's "Unending Conversation" metaphor is apt here: Imagine that you enter a parlor. You come late. When you arrive, others have long preceded you, and they are engaged in a heated discussion, a discussion too heated for them to pause and tell you exactly what it is about. In fact, the discussion had already begun long before any of them got there, so that no one present is qualified to retrace for you all the steps that had gone before. You listen for a while, until you decide that you have caught the tenor of the argument; then you put in your oar. Someone answers; you answer him; another comes to your defense; another aligns himself against you, to either the embarrassment or gratification of your opponent, depending upon the quality of your ally's assistance. However, the discussion is interminable. The hour grows late, you must depart. And you do depart......Just to add to that is the important thing to remember is the different kind of motives. Even if it *is* catharsis, it still is net loss for the participants, rather than any kind of meaningful transference, anything worth learning from. It is one thing to objectify another's taste, it is another thing to decimate it through some personal, ulterior, empty motive.
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