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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jan 25, 2013 14:42:52 GMT -5
Do you not think there was a shift in dynamics once Liam started to write his own songs? If you look at the list of Liam and Noel sung songs from Heathen Chemistry onwards I'd say Noel definitely took the more emotive songs, whether by accident or design. Having said that, I'd say Liam produced the two most emotive vocals of that period in SCYHO and I'm Outta Time. I can see where gdforever is coming from though
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Post by StepOut on Jan 26, 2013 11:06:33 GMT -5
Liam should just shut up, swallow his pride and apologize to Noel. Then reform Oasis. This Beady Eye thing just isn't working out.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jan 26, 2013 13:28:25 GMT -5
What should he apologise for exactly? Any apologies would have to be both way's I expect.
Beady Eye have done one album that's pretty good, there gigs are great and it seems they are going to mix things up for the new record. A lot of Oasis fans love Noel's album. I don't see the point in a reformation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 17:01:44 GMT -5
Liam should just shut up, swallow his pride and apologize to Noel. Then reform Oasis. This Beady Eye thing just isn't working out. What does Liam have to apologise for?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 26, 2013 17:19:27 GMT -5
Liam should just shut up, swallow his pride and apologize to Noel. Then reform Oasis. This Beady Eye thing just isn't working out. What does Liam have to apologise for? Didn't Liam throw a guitar at him backstage? That's a good start.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 17:32:21 GMT -5
What does Liam have to apologise for? Didn't Liam throw a guitar at him backstage? That's a good start. Yeh which Noel then smashed to pieces. Noel's constantly made lies up about Liam like the laryngitis at V festival and and Pretty Green being the demise of Oasis. They have both insulted each other frequently throughout the years I don't see why one has to apologise to the other
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 26, 2013 17:46:52 GMT -5
Didn't Liam throw a guitar at him backstage? That's a good start. Yeh which Noel then smashed to pieces. Noel's constantly made lies up about Liam like the laryngitis at V festival and and Pretty Green being the demise of Oasis. They have both insulted each other frequently throughout the years I don't see why one has to apologise to the other I'm not taking sides in their dispute but you asked what Liam has to apologize for. Throwing a guitar across the room aimed at you is a terrific apology candidate. Words are one thing, violence is another.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 17:49:39 GMT -5
Yeh which Noel then smashed to pieces. Noel's constantly made lies up about Liam like the laryngitis at V festival and and Pretty Green being the demise of Oasis. They have both insulted each other frequently throughout the years I don't see why one has to apologise to the other I'm not taking sides in their dispute but you asked what Liam has to apologize for. Throwing a guitar across the room aimed at you is a terrific apology candidate. Words are one thing, violence is another. I was thinking the same thing. Over the past 20 years i am sure that both siders have plenty that they should apologize for, but they never will.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 17:58:14 GMT -5
I'm not taking sides in their dispute but you asked what Liam has to apologize for. Throwing a guitar across the room aimed at you is a terrific apology candidate. Words are one thing, violence is another. I was thinking the same thing. Over the past 20 years i am sure that both siders have plenty that they should apologize for, but they never will. Yeh, but is there any point in apologising, when you know they'll only go and do it again? Liam and Noel Gallagher are just two very different people who will likely never get on
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jan 26, 2013 20:40:14 GMT -5
Yeh which Noel then smashed to pieces. Noel's constantly made lies up about Liam like the laryngitis at V festival and and Pretty Green being the demise of Oasis. They have both insulted each other frequently throughout the years I don't see why one has to apologise to the other I'm not taking sides in their dispute but you asked what Liam has to apologize for. Throwing a guitar across the room aimed at you is a terrific apology candidate. Words are one thing, violence is another. You have been making a lot of unverified claims lately that are apparently by Liam. I don't think you answered my last inquiry. But as theyknowwhatimean say's I think they both have things they could say sorry for.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 26, 2013 20:52:56 GMT -5
I'm not taking sides in their dispute but you asked what Liam has to apologize for. Throwing a guitar across the room aimed at you is a terrific apology candidate. Words are one thing, violence is another. You have been making a lot of unverified claims lately that are apparently by Liam. I don't think you answered my last inquiry. But as theyknowwhatimean say's I think they both have things they could say sorry for. You don't believe the Liam throwing the guitar across the room at Noel stories reported by various witnesses? As far as Noel saying Bag It Up and The Turning weren't played on the DOYS tour because Liam couldn't pull it off live....well i haven't attempted hunting down the video or interview yet but ill give it a try soon. I remember Noel saying it, he wasn't ripping Liam just said they didn't sound good in rehearsals. I could be mistaken. I think it was during the US tour of 2008. I've come to realize no one can ever say a criticism of Liam around you.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jan 26, 2013 20:59:31 GMT -5
You have been making a lot of unverified claims lately that are apparently by Liam. I don't think you answered my last inquiry. But as theyknowwhatimean say's I think they both have things they could say sorry for. You don't believe the Liam throwing the guitar across the room at Noel stories reported by various witnesses? As far as Noel saying Bag It Up and The Turning weren't played on the DOYS tour because Liam couldn't pull it off live....well i haven't attempted hunting down the video or interview yet but ill give it a try soon. I remember Noel saying it, he wasn't ripping Liam just said they didn't sound good in rehearsals. I've come to realize no one can ever say a criticism of Liam around you. I hadn't heard them, if its out there fair enough it wouldn't surprise me although I don't think they were beyond him. Pretty sure Bag It Up had more to do with the nature of the tune. You also said it was always Liam saying 'This is the best album since......' which in fact they have both been guilty of. Liam has plenty of flaws, most that are blinding obvious. Your last sentence smacks of someone who doesn't like what he's heard. A bit easy.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 26, 2013 21:04:52 GMT -5
You don't believe the Liam throwing the guitar across the room at Noel stories reported by various witnesses? As far as Noel saying Bag It Up and The Turning weren't played on the DOYS tour because Liam couldn't pull it off live....well i haven't attempted hunting down the video or interview yet but ill give it a try soon. I remember Noel saying it, he wasn't ripping Liam just said they didn't sound good in rehearsals. I've come to realize no one can ever say a criticism of Liam around you. I hadn't heard them, if its out there fair enough it wouldn't surprise me although I don't think they were beyond him. Pretty sure Bag It Up had more to do with the nature of the tune. You also said it was always Liam saying 'This is the best album since......' which in fact they have both been guilty of. Liam has plenty of flaws, most that are blinding obvious. Your last sentence smacks of someone who doesn't like what he's heard. A bit easy. I believe i said they BOTH use to make those "best album since MG" claims. I didn't like Liam saying DGSS was gonna be on par with DM. I much preferred Noel's more laid back approach to HFB. He laid low for the most part with his boasting but yes both were guilty of that in the past.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 26, 2013 21:18:49 GMT -5
you can't complain about too simple lyrics in my opinion, if you are not even able to remember the title of the tune. there was never a song called "world outside my window".... there was "world outside my room" which will never get to this album, cause it already is a b-side, so you mean "world's not set in stone". learn song titles, if you dare to complain about simple lyrics! Simple and easy mistake though isn't it? Shocking lyrics like 'so long so long, someday all the world will sing my song' are so bad it's easy to forget everything else about the song. I can see andytr's point of view entirely - Beady Eye can certainly talk the talk, but can they walk the walk? This has been a massive problem for all Gallagher related things for the past 15 years (apart from High Flying Birds, when Noel didn't say anythiing and it actually turned out to be very very good). Remember Noel saying Heathen Chemistry was the best album since Morning Glory? What on earth? Comparing one of the worst albums I've ever bought up against one of my favourites? And then all the hype about Dig Out Your Soul being 'the album that the band has been leading up to since Gem and Andy joined' and 'the best Oasis album since Morning Glory (again)'. It wasn't helped by some over the top previews from journalists, most probably blinded like Oasis fanboys. The result was Dig Out Your Soul turned out to be a really dull album, again the band just treading water and step forward from the previous album at all - a couple of banging tunes (Falling Down and The Shock) but lacked any of the melodies that we love Oasis for. It wasn't really helped by Noel's unambitious choice of production and Dave Sardy's misguided advice. The Standing on the Shoulders of Giant era is memorable because it is quite different - it's dark and psychedelic. Truly great songs like Let's All Make Believe and Gas Panic indicated a step in the right direction but ever since then, nothing of remote interest musically ever happened. But let's pray it's really good, I really am hoping it is. There's nothing more in music I'd like to see than Beady Eye surprise a few people. Isn't Noel or Liam guilty for saying the line "our best album since Morning Glory" for every release since SOTOSG? I'm glad Noel remained silent on if HFB was any good. Liam even took it a step further by comparing DGSS to Definitely Maybe.
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Post by NYR on Jan 26, 2013 22:45:54 GMT -5
one of the gallaghers publicly bashed the other? how is that news? it'd be news if they didn't do that.
you know, i used to think that their bickering and constant need to publicly one-up each other was hilarious. now i find it immature and annoying. it's like a broken record, but that broken record is a jonas brothers album.
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Post by Bruno on Jan 26, 2013 22:49:42 GMT -5
And for some reason Liam's getting more and more bitter about the whole thing while Noel makes some joke and brushes it off. Quite a change from 2011 when Liam was talking about a possibility of a re-union. It's quite sad really.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 8:02:16 GMT -5
And for some reason Liam's getting more and more bitter about the whole thing while Noel makes some joke and brushes it off. Quite a change from 2011 when Liam was talking about a possibility of a re-union. It's quite sad really. Back in 2011 Noel hadn't had that much success yet, since then he's gone on to play massive arenas all over the world whilst Liam ended his tour in December of that year on a whimper. It's not much of a surprise that Liam is more bitter now than in 2011
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Post by Bruno on Jan 27, 2013 8:36:12 GMT -5
Good point. It's sad really that he has to be so immature about it. Because like we've heard from Rolo and others that he's a pretty nice guy. If he'd only show that side when dealing with questions about Noel. Now he's just coming off as a very bitter man.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 27, 2013 10:56:42 GMT -5
And for some reason Liam's getting more and more bitter about the whole thing while Noel makes some joke and brushes it off. Quite a change from 2011 when Liam was talking about a possibility of a re-union. It's quite sad really. Back in 2011 Noel hadn't had that much success yet, since then he's gone on to play massive arenas all over the world whilst Liam ended his tour in December of that year on a whimper. It's not much of a surprise that Liam is more bitter now than in 2011 Careful with your remarks guys, the Liam police might take you away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 11:22:20 GMT -5
Back in 2011 Noel hadn't had that much success yet, since then he's gone on to play massive arenas all over the world whilst Liam ended his tour in December of that year on a whimper. It's not much of a surprise that Liam is more bitter now than in 2011 Careful with your remarks guys, the Liam police might take you away. I'm not saying I support Liam being visibly bitter all the time with regards to Noel, I suppose it is quite sad really. I was just saying that it's no surprise really that he appears more bitter after Noel's album has go on to sell a bucket-load
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 27, 2013 11:44:26 GMT -5
Careful with your remarks guys, the Liam police might take you away. I'm not saying I support Liam being visibly bitter all the time with regards to Noel, I suppose it is quite sad really. I was just saying that it's no surprise really that he appears more bitter after Noel's album has go on to sell a bucket-load I'm totally just kidding around. I understand what you are saying. I think all of Noel's solo success will make the upcoming Beady Eye album that much more polished and improved. I'm hopefully optimistic with album #2. Can't wait to hear the new single.
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