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Post by mossy on Aug 9, 2012 3:52:59 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on Aug 9, 2012 3:57:06 GMT -5
He told The Sun when asked about the album: "It was supposed to be delivered the night I did that press conference and I hadn’t been involved in any of the mixing at that point due to being busy with other things. Anyway, it was a toss-up whether to announce it in the first place, but I just thought fuck it, I've done it, let’s announce it."
He continued: "But since then I've been on the road and because of that I’ve not been in the mixing, and I’m not happy with any of the mixes. They’re going backward and forward so then the plan was to get mixing done after the tour, but this tour has gone on so long that there’s been no time, and that means looking at it next year. But by then I fear the moment may have passed."
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Post by Jim on Aug 9, 2012 4:42:18 GMT -5
Why not let Paul "Strangeboy" Stacey mix the album? He mixed Shoot A Hole Into the Sun and Noel was happy for that to be released.
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Post by mossy on Aug 9, 2012 5:46:40 GMT -5
I can't quite believe he'll scrap an entire albums worth of material because "the moment has passed".
He said there were 18 songs slated for the album at one point.
I guess they'll come out on future albums in straighter recordings but still...
He should grow some cahones and just put the damn thing out!
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Post by jason1977 on Aug 9, 2012 6:01:46 GMT -5
I think he is thinking is this a bi gamble releasing it by turning fans off it is very different to anything else he's ever done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 6:09:55 GMT -5
Probably realised its rubbish...
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Post by Underneath the sky on Aug 9, 2012 8:01:47 GMT -5
Good judgement. No point wasting his new material on this and then having to put up with the album's commercial failure and being slated by critics. Better just to use the mixes as B sides for his next album.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 9, 2012 8:17:07 GMT -5
I think it's a mix between fear of loosing his audience, so play it safe. It's kind of stupid since it would only interest die hard fans.
And between lack of confidence in this album. I though SATHIS was great, but the WAL remix was kind of generic. I couldn't see Noel's part of it. So in the end, if it's just a AA album and Noel doesn't recognize himself in it then there's no point in releasing it. Using it as bside can be enough.
I just hope it's more the second reason than the first one. Cause not releasing an album because it wouldn't fit your snow patol co setlist, it's shitty reason.
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Post by NicOasis on Aug 9, 2012 8:20:45 GMT -5
Hopefully he'll release it, if not I personally hope he doesn't use them as b-sides, a bit lazy to do that I think. I don't hate the AA work with a passion, I don't mind it, but a 15 minute remix as the b-side to a fantastic track like "Everybody's On The Run"? I don't like that. I'd rather have proper done b-sides like "The Good Rebel", "Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me", etc. Not songs Noel just picked out from an album he done that he just tossed away because "the moment passed" for it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 8:29:45 GMT -5
What difference does it make if its released as b-sides anyway? You'll still get the songs in the end.
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Post by Rifles on Aug 9, 2012 8:31:44 GMT -5
Saw this coming a mile away (spaneli, you owe me a deep dish pizza).
It's a combination of things. The tunes just don't sound good. The window to release it as a companion piece to HFB has essentially closed and will have closed completely by the time it would be finished. Probably most importantly, Noel's not going to want to do shit when he's done with the tour. He's disappearing for 8 months minimum before he starts secretly recording the next album and I think he'll take his sweet time with it.
I think in general, people's reactions would be something like this: Release the album shortly after HFB - "It's cool that he released another album, but this isn't my thing....i'll stick with HFB." Release the album mid-late next year - "What the fuck is this shit?"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 8:36:34 GMT -5
Saw this coming a mile away (spaneli, you owe me a deep dish pizza). It's a combination of things. The tunes just don't sound good. The window to release it as a companion piece to HFB has essentially closed and will have closed completely by the time it would be finished. Probably most importantly, Noel's not going to want to do shit when he's done with the tour. He's disappearing for 8 months minimum before he starts secretly recording the next album and I think he'll take his sweet time with it. I think in general, people's reactions would be something like this: Release the album shortly after HFB - "It's cool that he released another album, but this isn't my thing....i'll stick with HFB." Release the album mid-late next year - "What the fuck is this shit?"Exactly.
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 9, 2012 8:39:42 GMT -5
Saw this coming a mile away (spaneli, you owe me a deep dish pizza). It's a combination of things. The tunes just don't sound good. The window to release it as a companion piece to HFB has essentially closed and will have closed completely by the time it would be finished. Probably most importantly, Noel's not going to want to do shit when he's done with the tour. He's disappearing for 8 months minimum before he starts secretly recording the next album and I think he'll take his sweet time with it. I think in general, people's reactions would be something like this: Release the album shortly after HFB - "It's cool that he released another album, but this isn't my thing....i'll stick with HFB." Release the album mid-late next year - "What the fuck is this shit?" yeah, noel needs to take a 8 months break before going to the studio again. he is a wealthy fucker and has more free time in his life than probably every person on this forum. i just don't get it. does he really think people are so stupid that they can't differentiate between a remix album by the AA and a normal album by the HFB? i think this argument that he could destroy a bit of his new success with releasing this album isn't valid
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 8:46:57 GMT -5
Saw this coming a mile away (spaneli, you owe me a deep dish pizza). It's a combination of things. The tunes just don't sound good. The window to release it as a companion piece to HFB has essentially closed and will have closed completely by the time it would be finished. Probably most importantly, Noel's not going to want to do shit when he's done with the tour. He's disappearing for 8 months minimum before he starts secretly recording the next album and I think he'll take his sweet time with it. I think in general, people's reactions would be something like this: Release the album shortly after HFB - "It's cool that he released another album, but this isn't my thing....i'll stick with HFB." Release the album mid-late next year - "What the fuck is this shit?" yeah, noel needs to take a 8 months break before going to the studio again. he is a wealthy fucker and has more free time in his life than probably every person on this forum. i just don't get it. does he really think people are so stupid that they can't differentiate between a remix album by the AA and a normal album by the HFB? i think this argument that he could destroy a bit of his new success with releasing this album isn't valid Not everyone follows Noel Gallagher forums.... Joe Public will buy the new Noel Gallagher album and wold be horrified, trade it in at Cash Converters and wouldnt rush to the shops to buy NGHFB2. Plus BBC2 wont play any "singles" and he wont be headlining any festivals playing set that consists of 18 nine-minute+ songs
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Post by Rifles on Aug 9, 2012 8:49:32 GMT -5
Uhhh...no one said he NEEDS to take a break. We just know he will based on his patterns from the last decade plus.
And I have no faith in "people". His hardcore fanbase would never leave him, but a lot of other people bought his album and I bet he would alienate a good chunk of them if he released the AA album later than expected. It's just general psychology - if HFB is fresh then the AA album can be more easily dismissed as a quirky companion piece. It's harder to do that as more time passes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 8:51:28 GMT -5
Get rid of the AA for my liking... Freaky teeth and it makes me wanna cry are far too good to be wasted on their rediculous 15 minute bore-fest of a song production technique IMO
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 8:55:05 GMT -5
Im not particurly mithered about the AA album as such. But i tell you this...
In 2014/15 when NGHFB2 comes out possibly with It Makes Me Wanna Cry and 9 other songs, this forum will be flooded with "this wold have better by the AA" "this is boring he should have made an AA record" comments... Betcha!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 8:59:44 GMT -5
Im not particurly mithered about the AA album as such. But i tell you this... In 2014/15 when NGHFB2 comes out possibly with It Makes Me Wanna Cry and 9 other songs, this forum will be flooded with "this wold have better by the AA" "this is boring he should have made an AA record" comments... Betcha!!! Oh yeah definitely but I won't be one of them, sure I get a bit bored by HFB stuff sometimes but the answer to that is definitely not AA, everything I've heard from them has been boring IMO
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 9, 2012 9:18:32 GMT -5
he doesn't need to play it though. and i guess there would be a radio friendly track on the album. it's noel
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Post by NicOasis on Aug 9, 2012 9:24:00 GMT -5
What difference does it make if its released as b-sides anyway? You'll still get the songs in the end. Hey! Its 7:12AM and I haven't slept, I don't know what I'm saying! Let me try see if I know what I was going for... I want Noel to release it not because I'm excited for it, I'm not that excited for it, if he doesn't release it I won't be down about it or anything. I want Noel to release this album if hes happy with it, but if he isn't happy with it then I just personally wouldn't want them to be b-sides is all. I wouldn't want some psychedelic song that Noel did previously with the AA that he just had lying around, and just picked it out to be a b-side to a song like "It Makes Me Wanna Cry/Catch The Sun/The Dying Of The Light" (Whatever people title this song ).
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Post by headshrinker84 on Aug 9, 2012 9:28:16 GMT -5
I don't want to wait two years to hear the studio version of Freaky teeth.
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Post by matt on Aug 9, 2012 9:44:52 GMT -5
I love High Flying Birds album, but jeez, does the man not have any balls to release something a bit different?
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Post by jason1977 on Aug 9, 2012 9:48:33 GMT -5
Would open up a whole new market from him even if it meant some of the die hards would be a bit pissed off
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 9:57:07 GMT -5
Would open up a whole new market from him even if it meant some of the die hards would be a bit pissed off very tiny underground market...
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Post by ETrilk on Aug 9, 2012 10:02:41 GMT -5
It'll come out at some point. Whether it be next year or five years from now. He'll get excited in that project and that type of music at some point in the future and revisit it.
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