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Post by spaneli on Aug 9, 2012 10:57:48 GMT -5
I think it's a mix between fear of loosing his audience, so play it safe. It's kind of stupid since it would only interest die hard fans. And between lack of confidence in this album. I though SATHIS was great, but the WAL remix was kind of generic. I couldn't see Noel's part of it. So in the end, if it's just a AA album and Noel doesn't recognize himself in it then there's no point in releasing it. Using it as bside can be enough. I just hope it's more the second reason than the first one. Cause not releasing an album because it wouldn't fit your snow patol co setlist, it's shitty reason. Has nothing to do with audience in my opinion. I remember in an interview during this tour where the interviewer was like, "My aunt really loves your straighter stuff. Aren't you afraid that you might lose people like that." Noel's response was, "I think I can afford to lose your aunt for an album." I paraphrased there, but audience has nothing to do with it, especially because Noel knew/knows that he'll always have the diehards.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 9, 2012 11:01:34 GMT -5
Why not let Paul "Strangeboy" Stacey mix the album? He mixed Shoot A Hole Into the Sun and Noel was happy for that to be released. This!
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Post by gdforever on Aug 9, 2012 11:08:44 GMT -5
Sounds like he actually doesn't like it. Frankly if he doesn't like it it's probably better of staying in the vault IMO. Maybe put some of the better ones as future b-sides.
He shouldn't have announced it until he had heard a version of the album he was happy with. Stupid decision on his part. Don't think that that means that he is now obligated to release a product he doesn't believe in.
I may be in the minority but I don't think that artists should be putting out material that even they don't like. I'd prefer if they didn't impose upon their diehard fanbase to help pay for their failed experiments just because they recorded them...even if it didn't affect their commercial viability (which it would).
I'm all for experimentation. I wanted him to collaborate with the AA before we even knew he was recording. But the thing about experimentation is that is doesn't always work unfortunately. Such is life...you live, you learn. He won't jump the gun on announcing his next experiment (if there is one)
But if Noel doesn't like it then I'd prefer that the 10 unheard songs got rerecorded into versions he does like as they are probably the only ones we are going to get. I have been on the fence about the AA material we have heard so far. A lot of it seems very psychedelia-by-numbers.
Don't know about anyone else...but I'd have been super pissed if the only versions I had heard of IIHAG and WAL had been the AA versions.
It's not a matter of having balls. It isn't balls that you need to put out something you don't like...it's lack of pride and absence of standards. I prefer standards over putting out something just because it's there.
Personally I think that he will in fact work on it when he comes off tour. And if he likes it I think it will come out. I think he is just downplaying the chances of it coming out in case they can't get it to the place they want it and it is scrapped.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 9, 2012 11:15:08 GMT -5
Personally I think that he will in fact work on it when he comes off tour. And if he likes it I think it will come out. I think he is just downplaying the chances of it coming out in case they can't get it to the place they want it and it is scrapped. I'm thinking this too.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 9, 2012 11:56:40 GMT -5
At least we know a version of 'Freaky Teeth' was probably recorded during the HFB sessions out in Los Angeles. The making of documentary should Noel writing a list of songs recorded. That was at the top of the list.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 9, 2012 12:15:46 GMT -5
Why not let Paul "Strangeboy" Stacey mix the album? He mixed Shoot A Hole Into the Sun and Noel was happy for that to be released. This! Yup give it to him now. Have it done in time to be released as a deluxe edition to coincide with the DVD at Christmas. Take some time off and come back with the next album. Simples.
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Post by Rifles on Aug 9, 2012 12:53:58 GMT -5
Personally I think that he will in fact work on it when he comes off tour. And if he likes it I think it will come out. I think he is just downplaying the chances of it coming out in case they can't get it to the place they want it and it is scrapped. I'm thinking this too. You can keep holding on for dear life, but this is Noel we're talking about. The guy who relishes his time off and will undoubtedly be burnt out after over 2 years of studio time and touring. No way does he go back into the studio to try and make something of what is probably a huge mess. You owe me a deep dish pizza.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 13:02:24 GMT -5
Get Spike Stent to mix it, if anyone.
My opinion on the situation:
Remember all the pre-HFB release "news" we got? Something about Noel only wanting to release the AA stuff and his management freaking out? He loved the AA stuff in the beginning. His management persuaded Noel to release the Sardy stuff first. But they still didn't want the AA stuff released and have been hassling Noel about it. And little by little, Noel fell out of the love with the AA mixes and no longer sees the value in releasing a full length album with them.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 9, 2012 13:27:06 GMT -5
Get Spike Stent to mix it, if anyone. My opinion on the situation: Remember all the pre-HFB release "news" we got? Something about Noel only wanting to release the AA stuff and his management freaking out? He loved the AA stuff in the beginning. His management persuaded Noel to release the Sardy stuff first. But they still didn't want the AA stuff released and have been hassling Noel about it. And little by little, Noel fell out of the love with the AA mixes and no longer sees the value in releasing a full length album with them. Noel says that he started the HFB project on his own after hearing the direction that the AA were going with IIHAG. Seems to me that the falling out of love with the AA project has been happening bit by bit since almost the start when Noel started hedging his bets by moving it away from being the main album and instead a companion piece to a more traditional album.
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Post by Rifles on Aug 9, 2012 14:20:23 GMT -5
Just give me Freaky Teeth, damn it! FREAKY FUCKING TEETH
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Post by gdforever on Aug 9, 2012 14:26:28 GMT -5
Just give me Freaky Teeth, damn it! FREAKY FUCKING TEETH HAHAHA Hunt him down rifles...make him give it to you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 14:31:36 GMT -5
Just give me Freaky Teeth, damn it! FREAKY FUCKING TEETH HAHAHA Hunt him down rifles... make him give it to you.
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Post by tnh05 on Aug 10, 2012 12:34:33 GMT -5
Just give me Freaky Teeth, damn it! FREAKY FUCKING TEETH
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Post by ramattack22 on Aug 11, 2012 1:23:41 GMT -5
I'm not too into the idea of the AA album. The remixes we've heard just don't really impress me. They don't sound like Noel Gallagher songs... They don't even really sound like songs. There's noo structure to SAHITS or the WAL Remix. If Noel decides to not put the AA album out and I get to hear a normal version of Freaky Teeth instead of a fucked up 20 minute remix of it, I'd be just fine with that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 17:42:14 GMT -5
He wants to just trash this crap and get back to what he does best. I think his time for experimentation was the late 90's but now it's just pointless.
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Post by nataliemckinney on Aug 11, 2012 20:07:36 GMT -5
I'm not too into the idea of the AA album. The remixes we've heard just don't really impress me. They don't sound like Noel Gallagher songs... They don't even really sound like songs. There's noo structure to SAHITS or the WAL Remix. If Noel decides to not put the AA album out and I get to hear a normal version of Freaky Teeth instead of a fucked up 20 minute remix of it, I'd be just fine with that. THIS. DOYS was too out there for me. I wasn't going to be able to handle the AA album. Gave the remixes a listen, didn't like them. Not shedding a single tear over this album. And like Rifles, I'll take Freaky Teeth, thank you. THAT is Noel Gallagher to me. And one of his best.
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Post by ETrilk on Aug 11, 2012 20:14:58 GMT -5
He wants to just trash this crap and get back to what he does best. I think his time for experimentation was the late 90's but now it's just pointless. I hear this. I do like Teotihuacan a great deal.
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Post by David Spritz on Aug 11, 2012 20:21:30 GMT -5
i really enjoy taking hallucinogens and listening to psychedelic music. hopefully Noel fixes the mixes and releases the album.
God bless.
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Post by nataliemckinney on Aug 11, 2012 20:24:32 GMT -5
See, now maybe then it might sound good to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2012 11:10:28 GMT -5
I think the big problem he'd have is how to communicate that this isn't a typical Noel Gallagher record to the 95% of HFB buyers outside the hardcore, then how to convince the world that the next HFB record was always going to be along the same lines as the first and that it's not a climbdown.
The AA album is probably more trouble than it's worth, ultimately.
For the record, I love Shoot A Hole Into The Sun but hate the AKA... What A Life! remix.
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Post by thomas09 on Aug 12, 2012 11:27:56 GMT -5
Thank God. Can't say I'm surprised.
Kinda feel sorry for the AA guys who've got to have put so much time into this release only for their mixing to be badmouthed by Noel and then finally scrapping the project. I'm all for an artist not releasing something if they don't like it but I think he's been a little harsh on AA. No one can get the mixes to sound the way Noel wants if he's not there.
Anyone else think he's using this as an excuse? I don't blame him if he is cos it's terrible.
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 16, 2012 16:53:02 GMT -5
Thank God. Can't say I'm surprised. Kinda feel sorry for the AA guys who've got to have put so much time into this release only for their mixing to be badmouthed by Noel and then finally scrapping the project. I'm all for an artist not releasing something if they don't like it but I think he's been a little harsh on AA. No one can get the mixes to sound the way Noel wants if he's not there. Anyone else think he's using this as an excuse? I don't blame him if he is cos it's terrible. Well that's just how life is sometimes. I'm sure Noel was very excited at the onset to work with AA, but as time went on he became less and less enthused with it and just wasn't satisfied with the end result. Noel still is a perfectionist at heart when it comes to music, and he wouldn't put something out that he wasn't proud of at the time. And also, the AA mixes are very generic. If you listen to the tracks, they use the same psychedelic tricks/effects on every song. Given how "experimental" this record is supposed to be, from what we heard it's not that original or creative.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 16, 2012 17:08:01 GMT -5
Yup give it to him now. Have it done in time to be released as a deluxe edition to coincide with the DVD at Christmas. Take some time off and come back with the next album. Simples. I just don't see why he wouldn't give it to him. Obviously he trusted hum enough to give him SAHITS. Why not the album?
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Post by timekeeper on Aug 17, 2012 0:21:39 GMT -5
This is great news. I had a strong feeling this album was going to be awful. I listened to part of the What a Life mix once but couldn't bear to sit through it again. AA's work just isn't suited to Noel's music. It ruins his songs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 0:58:24 GMT -5
Aw... Terrible news for me, I was waiting for that album :/ Since I listened to A monstrous psychedelic bubble vol.2 that I really started to like their work.
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