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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 18, 2008 9:07:59 GMT -5
I'd be much more open to Radiohead if their fans weren't such a bunch of pretentious arthouse biffs.
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Post by romain696 on Aug 18, 2008 9:25:09 GMT -5
both are good, just completely different styles....
if you don't think Radiohead is good, then you're sadly mistaken
both groups are arrogant assholes, just in different ways. I respect both bands, even though I dig Oasis' vibe a little more
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 18, 2008 9:26:00 GMT -5
Edit:^^^ well said post above me! that's pretty much what I was going for here:
You've lost me. The press in the UK fucking love Oasis for a start!
but in terms of sales, Radiohead surely have sold a lot more than Oasis, they are famous the globe over and have several critically acclaimed albums under their belt - I'm not knobbing Radiohead over Oasis here, I just can't see why you'd think Oasis have outsold them, do you have evidence to back it up?
Oasis make straight forward rock and roll, Radiohead make all sorts of stuff, electronic, experimental, rock, classical - they've made an album for all tastes really, The Bends being an epic rock album in my book. Bottom line is that they are different bands, why would you even begin to start compareing them? I guess they are both English - I'll give you that.
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Post by puretone on Aug 18, 2008 9:33:14 GMT -5
What do album sales have to do with anything? Garth Brooks is the highest selling male artist of all time but it doesn't mean hes better than Elivs, Dylan, Bowie etc. Justin Timberlake also gets loads of radio play but it hardly means hes good.
Radiohead are a great band and Oasis are a great band. When you grow up and stop being ignorant you'll see you can listen to all types of music from different genres and different types of people instead of being only into ''mad fer it'' shit or ''arty whiny'' shit or whatever you call it. You calling Raidohead ''whiny art dudes'' is as annoying as the retards who call Oasis ''Non progressive Beatles rip offs''
You need to stop caring about who the press praises and slates and get on with deciding shit for yourself cause thats all that matters.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 18, 2008 9:34:59 GMT -5
It's obvious this one. Oasis make music that comes from the heart, while Radiohead make music that come from the mind - coming from the mind is nowhere as good as it coming from the heart. In the UK, we get the press slating Oasis, yet praising Radiohead for everything they do. If Radiohead are so great, then why don't they have the album sales to match Oasis, and they never get any radio airplay, unlike Oasis who get radio airplay on ALL the major UK stations every single day of they year. Fact. We do get most DJ's on the radio who actually love Oasis, and much of the music press love them, however, it's the upper class toffs newspapers who slate them. If Thom Yorke went on stage and farted into a microphone for half an hour, the Radiohead fanatical press would praise him. Actually, I'd prefer to hear him fart for half an hour, as it's much better than that droning whining voice he uses. +1 Q TV had a cuple of Oasis days when they played nothing other than Oasis and She's Electric gaets played on Kerang Radio! Need i say any more? Q TV had a cuple of Oasis days when they played nothing other than Oasis
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 18, 2008 9:41:09 GMT -5
puretone speaks the truth. everyone read this again: Radiohead are a great band and Oasis are a great band. When you grow up and stop being ignorant you'll see you can listen to all types of music from different genres and different types of people instead of being only into ''mad fer it'' shit or ''arty whiny'' shit or whatever you call it. You calling Raidohead ''whiny art dudes'' is as annoying as the retards who call Oasis ''Non progressive Beatles rip offs''
You need to stop caring about who the press praises and slates and get on with deciding shit for yourself cause thats all that matters.
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Post by matt on Aug 18, 2008 9:47:17 GMT -5
Evidence form Wikipedia - I know not all of it's accurate, but the articles have links to prove otherwise.
Radiohead "Their first six albums have sold over 25 million copies as of 2007.[1]"
Oasis " Oasis have sold more than 50 million records worldwide,[1]"
Oasis have sold more than double the amount Radiohead have.
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 18, 2008 9:58:25 GMT -5
^ bollocks is what I think of that, there's no chance that's accurate.
I agree with puretone that album sales have no bearing on the listener but regardless I'm not going to take some half assed wikipedia quotes as evidence that Oasis have shifted DOUBLE what Radiohead have - not a chance.
Have you got the links to those pages?!
I don't think there's anyway you could actually accurately find out anyway to be honest, its all specualtion isn't it? unless you contact the record co's...
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 18, 2008 10:06:18 GMT -5
I don't dislike Radiohead. It's just that there's an overwhelming sense of pretentiousness that seems to shape every decision they make, both creatively and commercially. Their approach to the distribution of In Rainbows is a perfect example of that.
The Bends is fucking ace, though.
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Post by halftheworld on Aug 18, 2008 10:06:27 GMT -5
It's obvious this one. Oasis make music that comes from the heart, while Radiohead make music that come from the mind... that's the stupidest thing i've ever read. you know shit about music.
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 18, 2008 10:13:56 GMT -5
I've seen Radiohead live twice and honestly they are brilliant live. Funnily enough I've also seen Oasis twice live and they are also brilliant live but just in a very different way!
Best way to explain it for me is that if I'm at an Oasis gig I'll be with my mates in the crowd near the stage having had a few drinks and having a brilliant time and if I'm at a Radiohead gig I'll probably be in the stands or stood in the crowd with my girlfriend having a brilliant time!
Getting tickets for Sheffield on Wed with any luck which will mean I'll of seen Radiohead and Oasis in the same year! and it will be my third Oasis gig, good times!
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Post by Noel Westerberg on Aug 18, 2008 10:18:46 GMT -5
It's obvious this one. Oasis make music that comes from the heart, while Radiohead make music that come from the mind - coming from the mind is nowhere as good as it coming from the heart. In the UK, we get the press slating Oasis, yet praising Radiohead for everything they do. If Radiohead are so great, then why don't they have the album sales to match Oasis, and they never get any radio airplay, unlike Oasis who get radio airplay on ALL the major UK stations every single day of they year. Fact. We do get most DJ's on the radio who actually love Oasis, and much of the music press love them, however, it's the upper class toffs newspapers who slate them. If Thom Yorke went on stage and farted into a microphone for half an hour, the Radiohead fanatical press would praise him. Actually, I'd prefer to hear him fart for half an hour, as it's much better than that droning whining voice he uses. that's outrageous....Radiohead 'make music from the mind'" That is utter nonsense. The Bends and OK Computer are untouchable and pack a ton of emotional depth in addition to pushing the envelop with respect to form. Sorry, but you are way off the mark, son.
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Post by AbbeyR0ad on Aug 18, 2008 10:20:16 GMT -5
I don't dislike Radiohead. It's just that there's an overwhelming sense of pretentiousness that seems to shape every decision they make, both creatively and commercially. Their approach to the distribution of In Rainbows is a perfect example of that. The Bends is fucking ace, though. I agree with this. I like Radiohead, but I can't just sit down and listen to them for hours on end like I can with a lot of other bands.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 18, 2008 10:30:51 GMT -5
^ bollocks is what I think of that, there's no chance that's accurate. I agree with puretone that album sales have no bearing on the listener but regardless I'm not going to take some half assed wikipedia quotes as evidence that Oasis have shifted DOUBLE what Radiohead have - not a chance. Have you got the links to those pages?! I don't think there's anyway you could actually accurately find out anyway to be honest, its all specualtion isn't it? unless you contact the record co's... entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article3101671.eceif you scroll down through that it says Radiohead have sold 25 million. Noel said the other day on Radio 1 that he had sold 60 million.
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 18, 2008 10:47:34 GMT -5
That's not accurate, it only includes their first six albums (released via EMI) which have been reported to have sold over 25 million copies as of 2007... so this doesn't include any further sales of those 6 albums. It also doesn't include the latest release (In Rainbows), The EP's, The live album, The best of, the singles and anything else they've put out.
Really, it would be impossible for us to make an accurate prediction of what Radioheads entire catalouge has sold to date but it's gonna be a hell of a lot...
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 18, 2008 10:58:03 GMT -5
That's not accurate, it only includes their first six albums (released via EMI) which have been reported to have sold over 25 million copies as of 2007... so this doesn't include any further sales of those 6 albums. It also doesn't include the latest release (In Rainbows), The EP's, The live album, The best of, the singles and anything else they've put out. Really, it would be impossible for us to make an accurate prediction of what Radioheads entire catalouge has sold to date but it's gonna be a hell of a lot... Yes if you include all those things Oasis will still have sold more. And most of the people who downloaded In Rainbows did so for free. The people who actually paid for it paid fuck all
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 18, 2008 11:03:34 GMT -5
How can you possibly in this world know that? we can't have this conversation because both of us don't know how much Oasis or Radiohead have sold, I can only give my opinion that I love both bands but reckon Radiohead will have the edge on sales because they are the bigger band. They are huge pretty much everywhere and have released a load of stuff.
And regardless of how many people downloaded In Rainbows for free, their will of been a load of people who paid or bought the boxset they put out or bought the in store CD release.
I love the way you say "Yes if you include all those things Oasis will still have sold more." there's really no way you can know this.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 18, 2008 11:11:02 GMT -5
Difference being Radiohead have never released an album as immediately commercially successful as Definitely Maybe, (What's The Story) Morning Glory, or Be Here Now.
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Post by Cast on Aug 18, 2008 11:41:45 GMT -5
I agree with everything supersonic1983 has said. I enjoy radiohead quite a bit. The Bends and In Rainbows are two of my favorite albums, but their fans are douchebags and it seems they just get praise just for trying something new. I mean you can say what you want but Ok Computer is not the amazing album that everyone seems to make it to be. Its a good album but a landmark album? No. Hail To The Thief is also a pure bag of shite. And Kid A and Amnesiac is just Thom Yorke singing way to high to even understand him with a bag of drum loops, loads of reverb, and piano. they are two different bands and i enjoy them both just i don't think that Radiohead should be a praised as they are
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 18, 2008 11:44:51 GMT -5
radiohead are the modern day beatles.
oasis are the modern day slade.
nothing wrong with either, just different.
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Post by PsychedelicElvis on Aug 18, 2008 12:24:33 GMT -5
Radiohead and Oasis are world class, world beaters and ENGLISH
Along with Amy Winehouse we got the best music in the world!!!!!!!!
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 18, 2008 12:26:20 GMT -5
radiohead are the modern day beatles. I'm not having that even for a second.
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Post by PsychedelicElvis on Aug 18, 2008 12:35:30 GMT -5
radiohead are the modern day beatles. I'm not having that even for a second. I second that second
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Post by AbbeyR0ad on Aug 18, 2008 12:54:06 GMT -5
I'm not having that even for a second. I second that second I third it
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 18, 2008 13:20:14 GMT -5
radiohead are the modern day beatles. oasis are the modern day slade. nothing wrong with either, just different. Radiohead don't have the tunes that The Beatles had. Oasis came closest to sounding like the Beatles. Oasis and The Verve were the best British bands to come out of the nineties. Radiohead doesn't come close and Thom Yorkes vocals can't touch Liam and Ashcrofts
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