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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 10:20:07 GMT -5
www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/23/noel-gallagher-high-flying-birds-review-brighton-centre?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FwtoR+%28The+Guardian+World+News%29Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds review – anti-nostalgia set doesn't look back in anger 4 / 5 stars Brighton Centre Unlike his brother, Gallagher Sr mostly refuses straightforward Oasis renditions, and instead embraces electronic drones, dance-rock and saxophones As Noel Gallagher departs the stage at the end of his UK tour’s first date, he tells the audience to get home safely and that he’ll see them soon. “Probably at some shitty festival,” he adds. “We’ll be third on the bill. Fucking travesty.” It’s clearly meant as a joke, but there’s a certain edge to it. The last six months have been a curious period in Gallagher’s career. He released Who Built the Moon?, by some considerable distance the most interesting album he’s made since the mid-90s, and the sort of record he’s been threatening to make ever since Oasis split up. A collaboration with dance producer, DJ and soundtrack composer David Holmes, it pushed Gallagher out of his comfort zone of mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references into more colourful and spacier territory: it touches on ambient electronica, New Order’s shimmering dance-rock hybrid, easy listening, and the sonically super-saturated glam of Roy Wood’s Wizzard. For his trouble, he’s been bested commercially by his brother’s debut solo album As You Were, on which pop songwriters-for-hire were drafted into the aforementioned comfort zone: mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references abound. Perhaps the problem is that Noel should have made Who Built the Moon? 20 years ago. If you spend decades dealing in more of the same, that’s what people come to expect of you – they’re bound to react coolly when you suddenly start breaking out the trombone and the French spoken-word interludes from Charlotte Marionneau (formerly of My Bloody Valentine-affiliated experimentalists Le Volume Courbe), who’s also spotted at one juncture using a pair of scissors as percussion. till, better late than never, and there’s something pleasingly bullish both about the sound of High Flying Birds – simultaneously expansive and powerful, not least on the brass-assisted Keep on Reaching, which feels like the work of a band rather than backing musicians – and about the show’s implicit suggestion that his audience can very much like his new direction or lump it. While his brother comes onstage to Oasis’ old intro music and immediately starts clobbering them with the contents of Definitely Maybe, Gallagher Sr’s appearance is preceded by a lengthy passage of electronic drone, his set opens with the Screamadelica-ish near-instrumental Fort Knox and proceeds through four songs in a row from Who Built the Moon? Wonderwall and Don’t Look Back in Anger aside, it steps lightly around Oasis’ big hits, concentrating instead on previous moments from Gallagher’s solo oeuvre when he pushed more gently against his self-imposed boundaries: the sax-heavy Riverman, the house-influenced AKA… What a Life! Occasionally, when he does dip into the Oasis catalogue, it acts as an intriguing study in contrasts. Half the World Away is still fantastic, but a trudge through Little By Little serves to remind you of what you’re not missing. It goes down a storm, but it feels leaden next to She Taught Me How to Fly’s breezy sparkle or the propulsive honk of Holy Mountain. There’s the sense of a man slogging away trying to recapture the inspiration that propelled Oasis to the top in the first place, versus the sound of man who seems genuinely inspired once more, powered by something other than nostalgia for Oasis’ mid-90s moment in the sun. This review is pretty much spot on. The only thing I will add is regarding the final comment. The man slogging it away trying to recapture Oasis (Liam) appears to be winning over a whole new generation of youth because of it, by the sounds of Liam's gigs. The kids are identifying with Liam, and he is tapping into that. Whereas this is something Noel isn't doing at the moment. The youth are not on his side, and the mature audience who are still with Noel are caught between wanting him to go in a new direction, or wanting him to stay faithful to his 90's glory days.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 9:17:11 GMT -5
Personally I loved most of the new solo stuff live, probably far more than the Oasis tracks he played (as they would be far down on my most loved tracks list anyway). It was just strange hearing it sound so great, and witnessing a lifeless, subdued audience listening to it, appearing mostly static throughout. Whatever Noel's intentions are with his choice of track list and new direction, I doubt he will want to witness too much of this reaction in all the venues he plays at. Maybe Brighton wasn't the right location, and things may get more lively when he plays up north. Exactly, if it's sounding that great, then its possibly more a question of inadequacy of the audience to the band than anything else. I also think that he's possibly not enjoying this reaction either, and far less the 'Liam-heckling' windheads. And this is my fear, because I for once like the new songs and couldn't care less for the oasis songs he chooses to play or not. This is me being selfish, yes, allow me to it. Everyone else going to any NG gig for the sole purpose of reliving the past is way more selfish and it is unfair for the artist also. There was a Liam-heckling twat last night which Noel kept calling out at the front of the crowd. Noel kept saying to him `Chant my name! Chant my name!' It's twats like that which made me want to attend a Noel gig rather than a Liam gig.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 9:01:47 GMT -5
YSee definitely improved the song. Noel even made a quip beforehand, something along the lines about her making a shit song sound great, which I thought was a bit telling. The Right Stuff laser show was awesome, but again the song just didn't seem to play well to the crowd. It appeared obvious at the end of the gig that they wanted more Oasis, less solo. During those songs it was the only time the crowd appeared animated. I understand the need for Noel to promote his solo stuff too, particularly the new album, but it did feel a bit like there was too much of that, and not enough old tracks to keep the crowd entertained enough. I think he could drop one of Dream On/Ballad Of The Mighty I for an Oasis song and it would probably solve that little issue. But he's playing 6 big Oasis tunes, and it seems some are complaining that's not enough, yet others are complaining they're not the right ones. The 2 Oasis tracks that didn't appear to go down that well were TIOBI and GLIO. Substitute these 2 for more classic tracks from the first 3 albums and I think that would resolve the issue I saw last night.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 7:35:26 GMT -5
Who's supporting on the UK tour? Baxter Dury, who really did go down like a lead balloon. The 2 people sat next to me didn't even bother watching. They only turned up at 9pm when Noel came on.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 7:33:53 GMT -5
I went to the Brighton gig last night, and the atmosphere was a little strange. I was seated above in the south balcony so could get a decent overall view of the crowd standing in the pit, and mostly none of them were dancing to the majority of the songs. The only real time the crowd got into it and and started singing and becoming lively was during Little by Little (bizarrely), which was the one real highlight of the concert. The new material really went down like a lead balloon, even though I personally thought it sounded great - particularly Holy Mountain and Dead in the Water, which sounded awesome. I was seated and everyone around me were seated and not even tapping their feet to the music. Me and my wife were the only ones trying to dance while sitting in our chairs, and I felt conscious of the static, wooden people sat around me. It was a very bizarre atmosphere, where I didn't feel I could stand and start dancing. Very frustrating. I think the mistake was a lack of well-known Oasis songs to jeer the crowd up. Go Let It Out wasn't one of their biggest, well-known tracks anyway, so I'm not sure why it was chosen, and that song also really emphasised the absence of Liam's voice. The other Oasis tracks were rather odd choices too, and to think of the songs he could have gone with. There seemed to be more Oasis Mk2 tracks than Mk1 songs which was strange, and having none from BHN just pissed me off even more. Noel trying to make some sort of statement again maybe? The one real dud song in the entire gig was Be Careful What You Wish For, which really killed the momentum. That song is probably the weakest on the album anyway, and why it was selected I'll never know. Its slow, meandering, doesn't go anywhere, and not appropriate at all for concerts. Half the World Away managed to get the crowd going, but Wonderwall fell a bit flat too, due to the way Noel was singing it. Overall, the concert sounded great, the laser light show and back screen videos looked very cool, but the atmosphere from the audience was strange at times, some of the track selections were odd, and the decision to go with more solo material than Oasis tracks was a big mistake in my book. I can see now why Liam is knocking it out of the park at live gigs in comparison to this. I personally didn't fancy going to a Liam concert due to the worry of being subjected to piss flying around and too many dickheads - a big drawback to the old Oasis gigs in their day, but in comparison to the lacklustre audience last night, Noel's gig went too far in the other direction. It's amazing how opinions differ... This is the first NG gig I'm really looking forward to. Saw him in 2012, skipped last tour because I was very busy at the time and because I though the setlist didn't add much to the previous tour and he wasn't playing my favourite songs off CY- BOTMI, TRS, WTSRTS. This time around I really want to see the gig because I've grown to love the new album and from what I gather from YouTube videos the band is sounding great. I can't see how BCWYWF can be a low point because I love that song and I love Ysee on it, particularly the live version! But I guess I'll have to judge it when I see it... The same with TRS, but that I can understand why some may not get it live. The songs he's playing from WBTM and CY, pretty much fill my checklist- Bar TMWBTM, which must be difficult to translate live. If he would add Alone on the rope and maybe TDOYAM and SOTWB it would be the full checklist done. I really don't mind for the lack of oasis' songs. If anything, i'd rathered him dropping LBL (as I've grown to hate it) and add Falling Down. From what I've seen, I don't mind GLIO, I don't love it, don't hate it either. I love TIOBI. I, personally speaking wouldn't mind he dropped WW or DLBIA, but that's just me, and I understand why he's still playing those. It's no surprise for me he's not playing songs from BHN, he hates that album apparently. Granted, this is not a tradicional rock gig and going there expecting that is a mistake. As it os a mistake to expect loads of oasis' songs- Still, Noel seems to be playing the songs he believe people want to hear the most. Obviously it's impossible to keep everyone pleased. From the live videos and people comments Noel does seem to be making a statement- this is not oasis- he was possibly initially surprised by the public's reaction but is sticking to the plan, regardless. It may even explain some of the recent interactions with the crowds (or their absence, in the case). I don't know if he'll manage to keep true to it, but I sure hope he will. This is the album and the tour that made me intersted again, I wouldn't mind some more work and depht regarding lyrics for a new album, but most definitely wouldn't want him going back to the traditional sound- it's done and dusted. Personally I loved most of the new solo stuff live, probably far more than the Oasis tracks he played (as they would be far down on my most loved tracks list anyway). It was just strange hearing it sound so great, and witnessing a lifeless, subdued audience listening to it, appearing mostly static throughout. Whatever Noel's intentions are with his choice of track list and new direction, I doubt he will want to witness too much of this reaction in all the venues he plays at. Maybe Brighton wasn't the right location, and things may get more lively when he plays up north.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 7:16:24 GMT -5
several people mentioned one of the low points in a set is Be Careful... which is a shame because it's one of my faves from the last album. I listened to live recordings and it sounds great. the band sounds great and it seems logical to play it having someone like YSee doing the backing vocals. Same with The Right Stuff but I can see why it must not be for the general audience I absolutely love Be Careful.... I don't understand the hate it gets. To me, it's that mature Oasis/Noel songwriting that I have been waiting for. Doing what Noel used to do best, stealing from the Beatles and reinventing. Such a chill groovy track. Also has one of the best solos I've heard on a Noel track in sometime. When I saw it live, I thought it was amazing too. That song is the one track I skip now when listening to the album, as are the two instrumentals.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 7:13:42 GMT -5
several people mentioned one of the low points in a set is Be Careful... which is a shame because it's one of my faves from the last album. I listened to live recordings and it sounds great. the band sounds great and it seems logical to play it having someone like YSee doing the backing vocals. Same with The Right Stuff but I can see why it must not be for the general audience YSee definitely improved the song. Noel even made a quip beforehand, something along the lines about her making a shit song sound great, which I thought was a bit telling. The Right Stuff laser show was awesome, but again the song just didn't seem to play well to the crowd. It appeared obvious at the end of the gig that they wanted more Oasis, less solo. During those songs it was the only time the crowd appeared animated. I understand the need for Noel to promote his solo stuff too, particularly the new album, but it did feel a bit like there was too much of that, and not enough old tracks to keep the crowd entertained enough.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 5:20:49 GMT -5
^ Superb post. Looking forward to Noel on Friday. Only thing I’d add is that Liam gigs have been full of indie kids like early ish Oasis gigs and have been the best ‘Gallagher’ concerts in years (in my humble opinion). I think I may have to do a Liam concert now, so I can compare.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 4:26:42 GMT -5
I went to the Brighton gig last night, and the atmosphere was a little strange. I was seated above in the south balcony so could get a decent overall view of the crowd standing in the pit, and mostly none of them were dancing to the majority of the songs. The only real time the crowd got into it and and started singing and becoming lively was during Little by Little (bizarrely), which was the one real highlight of the concert.
The new material really went down like a lead balloon, even though I personally thought it sounded great - particularly Holy Mountain and Dead in the Water, which sounded awesome.
I was seated and everyone around me were seated and not even tapping their feet to the music. Me and my wife were the only ones trying to dance while sitting in our chairs, and I felt conscious of the static, wooden people sat around me. It was a very bizarre atmosphere, where I didn't feel I could stand and start dancing. Very frustrating.
I think the mistake was a lack of well-known Oasis songs to jeer the crowd up. Go Let It Out wasn't one of their biggest, well-known tracks anyway, so I'm not sure why it was chosen, and that song also really emphasised the absence of Liam's voice.
The other Oasis tracks were rather odd choices too, and to think of the songs he could have gone with. There seemed to be more Oasis Mk2 tracks than Mk1 songs which was strange, and having none from BHN just pissed me off even more. Noel trying to make some sort of statement again maybe?
The one real dud song in the entire gig was Be Careful What You Wish For, which really killed the momentum. That song is probably the weakest on the album anyway, and why it was selected I'll never know. Its slow, meandering, doesn't go anywhere, and not appropriate at all for concerts.
Half the World Away managed to get the crowd going, but Wonderwall fell a bit flat too, due to the way Noel was singing it.
Overall, the concert sounded great, the laser light show and back screen videos looked very cool, but the atmosphere from the audience was strange at times, some of the track selections were odd, and the decision to go with more solo material than Oasis tracks was a big mistake in my book.
I can see now why Liam is knocking it out of the park at live gigs in comparison to this. I personally didn't fancy going to a Liam concert due to the worry of being subjected to piss flying around and too many dickheads - a big drawback to the old Oasis gigs in their day, but in comparison to the lacklustre audience last night, Noel's gig went too far in the other direction.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 12, 2018 23:43:45 GMT -5
A songwriter is exactly that ,you write the songs the structure ,melody ,words and say what’s going on it.A producer produces this adds effects ,gives advice but have no input in structure ,they add the final mix and programme drums or Synths if required all though is passed by the songwriter ..Co-writer is you pen the songs and the basics but the other guy adds to the structure and Melody but the main person writes the majority and basics Thanks for the clarification. It sums up what many of us have said on here, and why Holmes is not classed as a co-writer for the album.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 5, 2018 12:58:42 GMT -5
This is the most interesting part and no is talking about it. Fucking awesome! Let's hope he keeps his word. also - great interviews, thanks for posting! Its typical of this forum these days. Anything mildly interesting said by Noel is lost with one throwaway comment about Liam, which is wildly pounced on in furious anger, put under the spotlight, then put under a microscope, dissected, probed, analysed to death from all angles for any hidden meanings, and then finally discarded as just another outlandish lie by Noel, but all the while taking deep personal offence by the nasty, hurtful comment. The rest of the interview can go take a flying jump once a negative Liam comment is thrown into the mix. Throw in a `Parka Monkey' too for good measure, then relax, sit back and watch the fireworks explode. It makes the Liam Lovers/Noel Haters feel much more secure in their belief that NG is nothing but an out-and-out born liar, and he would never ever really say anything so preposterous about `Are Kid'.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 5, 2018 10:29:04 GMT -5
Not only can I not picture Noel saying "I like quirky and weird" to Liam in studio, I think Noel's entire career and taste in music as reflected in interviews his whole life shows that he doesn't really like "quirky and weird". It's not a knock on him, but his (like Liam's) musical interests have always been pretty straightforward. Well he may have still said it. We'll never know. Not sure on NG having straightforward music taste though. Some tracks he has selected in the past as his favourites are pretty way out. Even a few on here I found a little strange for me - www.discogs.com/Various-Well-All-Right/release/3075188
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 5, 2018 10:25:00 GMT -5
I think its fair to say Holmes deserves a lot of credit for the sound of WBTM, but no more than Owen Morris deserves a lot of credit for the early sound of Oasis. From what we have learned listening to NG's recent interviews, it appears as though Holmes was always suggesting things to Noel - `How about this type of sound?' `Do you think you should try something like that?' etc. during the creative part, but NG would have final say on everything.I'm guessing Noel doesn't see that kind of input (suggestions or adding to the mix) having the same importance as writing a song from scratch. Melody, chorus, lyrics, etc. is where its always been at for him, and is why he has digs at other musicians who do need this kind of help. I guess it depends on the genre too. If the song is all about the mix, and little to do with traditional songwriting composition, then there will be co-writing credits all round for that kind of music. But as we know, this type is not Noel's forte, who is a traditional songwriter. This isn’t actually true. They agreed no song would go on the album unless both Noel AND Holmes were 100% happy with it. So Holmes could veto songs from appearing on the album. Also, Noel was happy with certain choruses and lyrics and would have been happy to stop there but Holmes made him rewrite them. Sounds like Noel gave up way more control to Holmes than he ever did to Morris. And from what I can tell Holmes initiated Holy Mountain by bringing in the flute sample and getting Noel to write over the top of it. HM would never have existed without Holmes. That can’t be said of anything Morris produced. Yes fair enough. I'm probably doing Holmes a disservice by comparing his role to Morris.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 5, 2018 9:34:10 GMT -5
I'm not a songwriter so its hard for me to assume this, but I'm guessing the hard work is writing a song from scratch. Melody, lyrics, chorus, etc. and the easier part is the tweaking of what the sound is like - additional drumbeats, added orchestra, alarm bells etc. Owen Morris definitely added a lot to the original Oasis sound, but I never would have thought he would deserve a co-writing credit. Likewise, I think Holmes has added a lot to the sound of this new record, but he doesn't deserve a co-writing credit. Therefore I understand where Noel is coming from. Writing a song is a gift, and he has it (in abundance). He doesn't need any co-writer/sound engineer to help him in that department. All Noel does is go off and figure out the chords on his guitar, then start writing the lyrics. The added input from Holmes was suggesting ideas to Noel, nothing more than that during the writing process, and pushing Noel into a direction he wanted to go anyway. That’s an assumption. We weren’t in the studio so no-one can say for sure. But we know Holmes added significant samples and beats which would be enough for a formal credit for other artists/genres. My only point has been it is ironic Noel showing disdain for people who co-write (which he does mainly so he can dig at Liam) when he has had significant help himself. WBTM would not have happened without Holmes. The Right Stuff would not have happened without the AA. I think its fair to say Holmes deserves a lot of credit for the sound of WBTM, but no more than Owen Morris deserves a lot of credit for the early sound of Oasis. From what we have learned listening to NG's recent interviews, it appears as though Holmes was always suggesting things to Noel - `How about this type of sound?' `Do you think you should try something like that?' etc. during the creative part, but NG would have final say on everything. I'm guessing Noel doesn't see that kind of input (suggestions or adding to the mix) having the same importance as writing a song from scratch. Melody, chorus, lyrics, etc. is where its always been at for him, and is why he has digs at other musicians who do need this kind of help. I guess it depends on the genre too. If the song is all about the mix, and little to do with traditional songwriting composition, then there will be co-writing credits all round for that kind of music. But as we know, this type is not Noel's forte, who is a traditional songwriter.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 5, 2018 8:42:24 GMT -5
Where is the line between co-writing and co-producing? Have always found the difference a bit vague. Yeah it’s all very vague, which is why Noel can think one thing, the AA another, and we can all argue about it endlessly here :-) I think even the term “producer” itself is pretty vague and covers a wide range of things. Some producers seem to do nothing hands on with the music itself, rather they coach the artist. Others, especially in hip hop, write beats etc. It’s that end of the producing spectrum where co-writing credits become justified. Holmes seems to have been a great coach but definitely brought samples and beats to the table too. I think it’s down to the artists and producers themselves to agree what constitutes what with regards to formal credits though. For example, Lennon-McCartney and Beady Eye’s LAG team had co-writing agreements when we know there are songs on which they didn’t really co-write. What’s formally credited doesn’t always reflect what actually happened in the studio. I'm not a songwriter so its hard for me to assume this, but I'm guessing the hard work is writing a song from scratch. Melody, lyrics, chorus, etc. and the easier part is the tweaking of what the sound is like - additional drumbeats, added orchestra, alarm bells etc. Owen Morris definitely added a lot to the original Oasis sound, but I never would have thought he would deserve a co-writing credit. Likewise, I think Holmes has added a lot to the sound of this new record, but he doesn't deserve a co-writing credit. Therefore I understand where Noel is coming from. Writing a song is a gift, and he has it (in abundance). He doesn't need any co-writer/sound engineer to help him in that department. All Noel does is go off and figure out the chords on his guitar, then start writing the lyrics. The added input from Holmes was suggesting ideas to Noel, nothing more than that during the writing process, and pushing Noel into a direction he wanted to go anyway.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 5, 2018 3:04:30 GMT -5
It amuses me how Noel talks at length about how he collaborated with Holmes, describing how Holmes would bring in a sample to kick off Holy Mountain, or how Holmes would tell him to write a song in the style of X, or tell him to rewrite choruses, or tell the drummer what to play, or stay in the studio when Noel had gone home to carry on working on loops and arrangements... ... only then to slag off ALL artists who co-write. It’s the very definition of doublethink. Yes I know where you are going with this. I have thought this too recently. However, I think NG looks at co-writing as someone who actually co-writes the songs themselves - writing lyrics, playing an instrument, strumming along and changing a few chords themselves, etc. As Lennon had a half-finished song, Paul would fill it in with something he had written. That to me defines `co-writing.' It sounds to me Holmes nudged NG in the right direction, suggested things to him, and then NG would go off and play with it, see if it would develop into anything more. He would still write the lyrics and chords. The only thing Holmes would do afterwards is play with the vibe of the song, the sounds, changing the mix slightly, adding effects or alarm bells, etc. Every interview Noel says on this subject pretty much illustrates this. I guess there are different arguments to be had in what defines co-writing. As I am not a songwriter myself, I don't have a strong opinion on it.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 5, 2018 2:49:44 GMT -5
Great read, great work and lucky you that you get to meet our idols and heroes up close and personal. Ignore the usual dissenting BS on here from various members who claim they know more about Liam and Noel than you do. Put it down to pure old jealousy or resenting bitterness. The way some talk on here, it sounds they know Noel and Liam better than they know themselves at times.... Who has done that? This forum is littered with people who look in-depth and under a microscope at every single tweet Liam says, or every throw away remark Noel says in an interview as absolute gospel truth at times, and believe this sums them up as people, and use it as a way to either chastise them, or use it to chastise the other brother. And it doesn't stop there. Wives and daughters get thrown into the mix too for good measure. `She said this. How dare she.' `Well yes, but he did say that first.' `So what, he is always lying. He's a born liar...' etc. etc. That's the gist of usually how it goes, even though I'm not quoting anyone in particular there. And don't bother asking me to start quoting specific examples of this. You're an intelligent lad so you know what I am on about. The forum is literally worn out and exhausted by just about every thread turning into this behaviour. A guy comes on here to post an interview he has done with NG, and instead of everyone giving the guy a pat on the back for doing this, it turns into the usual `NG is lying through his back teeth again...' type comments. Maybe Noel was lying to this interviewer, maybe he wasn't. Maybe behind closed doors he doesn't BS as much as he does to the outside world at press conferences or TV interviews. Who knows. We weren't there, but he was. For once I would rather take on face value someone who actually has met the guy one-on-one on numerous occasions, than forum members who have never met him, but formed their opinions solely on tweets, throwaway remarks and silly videos of Noel saying he hates Christmas.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 4, 2018 19:25:52 GMT -5
Great read, great work and lucky you that you get to meet our idols and heroes up close and personal. Ignore the usual dissenting BS on here from various members who claim they know more about Liam and Noel than you do. Put it down to pure old jealousy or resenting bitterness. The way some talk on here, it sounds they know Noel and Liam better than they know themselves at times....
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Dec 19, 2017 2:13:04 GMT -5
Now that Liam is the "respected" Gallagher. In the public eye, at least. We can see Noel for what he really is as a person. Behind his image, act, arrogance, genius, he is a rude man. Totally mean and ungrateful. He's a fucking revisionist. Like Mccartney. I guess he's the center of the universe too. His rudeness was masked by his youth. Now he's old and bitter. He is a shadow of his former self. I can't believe how much fame changed him. Maybe that's why Liam has been so successful. Because his band failed, he destroyed his marriage, he was percieved as an ass. But he didn't gave up and made a great comeback. People connected with him. We all make mistakes and act like dicks, but not all of us can get back on the right path. He did just that. And he inspired people. His "ressurection" has been mind blowing. No one would've predicted that. Noel on the other hand, has become dull with each year that's passed. He says he's so happy and optimistic in interviews. How come he sounds so bitter and angry? It's a shame really. Still love and respect him, but ffs he should acknowledge the help he had. Yeah, I can’t stand rude rock stars either. Much prefer the polite ones. X Absolutely! And Noel was never, ever rude before now. Oasis in their hey day? Noel was the most polite person you would ever meet. Liam too. Shame that Noel has turned into this rude, arrogant rock star, because he was so humble and polite before now.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Dec 18, 2017 15:41:08 GMT -5
It's a funny video. Of course some folks here see it as a chance to bash Noel, because clearly the video is meant as an insult to everybody who disagree with him... Merry christmas. Seriously. All the clucking about how Noel's changed, lost his touch....LOL. Noel 1995: A grumpy curmudgeon who hates Christmas Noel every other year 1996-2016: A grumpy curmudgeon who hates Christmas Noel 2017: A grumpy curmudgeon who hates Christmas Awwwww. Don't spoil it for the Noel bashers. Let them believe Noel was never like this before, and he has just become this character right now.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Dec 18, 2017 15:38:54 GMT -5
It's a funny video. Of course some folks here see it as a chance to bash Noel, because clearly the video is meant as an insult to everybody who disagree with him... Merry christmas. I thought that video was hilarious. Some people here have a real sense of humour bypass when it comes to Noel, looking for any opportunity to bash him whenever they can. Sad as fuck!
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Dec 17, 2017 15:38:34 GMT -5
Wow! Well done Noel! He really nailed that!
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Dec 15, 2017 15:42:37 GMT -5
Official lyrics are -
Dance dance, if you do that dance I'm gonna let you join my one man band Be my doll, be my baby doll Come get to know me like the back of your hand I like the name hanging on that chain I like the way you do the push and the shove You can blow my mind if you're that way inclined All that I know is that she fell from above
She fell, she fell, right under my spell Oh now pretty, baby come on She danced, she danced, right into my hands Oh now pretty, baby come on Be my butterfly You and I will shake it We can roll in at the top of the morn' And if you feel the need I'll send you Godspeed To meet you're maker at the break of the dawn
Get out of the doldrums baby, now You liar, I'll set you on fire Get out of the doldrums baby, now
Do your thing on the beat of the bang I'll put a melody inside of your head No need to shout, what you bitchin' about? I think those things are better left unsaid She had a look you won't find in no book And she smelled like 1969 You could blow my mind if you're that way inclined All I know is I'm gonna make you mine
She fell, she fell, right under my spell Oh now pretty, baby come on She danced, she danced, right into my hands Oh now pretty, baby come on Be my butterfly You and I will shake it We can roll in at the top of the morn' And if you feel the need I'll send you Godspeed To meet you're maker at the break of the dawn
Get out of the doldrums baby, now You liar, I'll set you on fire Get out of the doldrums baby, now
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Dec 9, 2017 15:39:51 GMT -5
I'm not fussed either way, was just answering a question about who would benefit from planning it. Main benificiery would be Norton from getting a controversial clip from his show. Could have done it without Noel to try and get a reaction but in that case Noel did well to stay cool and laugh it off. Anyway I've no interest in another ten hours of questioning from you while you try and make out I'm some crazy person and you defend Noel's honour from imaginary attacks. word..... Yes, that's it. And another word, and another word. Eventually it will make a sentence. You should try it some time. This may help you...
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Dec 9, 2017 15:18:18 GMT -5
Awww! Don't spoil it for them. Let them believe in the conspiracy. Calm down bro. Breathe in..........and breathe out. Breathe in..........and breathe out.
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