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Post by jeffslate on Dec 22, 2017 10:53:45 GMT -5
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 22, 2017 12:08:45 GMT -5
I assume by this you actually mean young people A tad unfair perhaps.
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Post by Manualex on Dec 22, 2017 12:23:09 GMT -5
Tiny typo there in the article Colombia's capitol city is Bogotá. Nice article as always.👌
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Post by tatomoon on Dec 22, 2017 13:34:30 GMT -5
I really enjoyed reading these, keep doing what you're doing!
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Post by matt on Dec 22, 2017 14:06:45 GMT -5
“Liam said something to me towards the end of Oasis, when we were making the last record, which I remember, so it must have struck a chord in me,” Gallagher recalled. “We were in Abbey Road and I was playing a part on the guitar and I heard him in my headphones, and he was saying, ‘I'm not fucking having that. We're not doing anything like that.’ And I said, ‘Why not?’ And he said, ‘That was quirky and weird.’ And I went, ‘I like quirky and weird.’ And he said, ‘I fucking hate quirky and weird.’ And I thought, ah, this isn't going to go any further, because quirky and weird is what I like.”
If true, Noel should have issued this simple ultimatum. "I'm the only songwriting talent in this band, you let me do this, or I leave the band and the rest of you can swivel in your own manure of tunes'.
They took the latter option...
Although it may be a bit of revisionist thinking there - Noel back in 2008 scoffed at the idea of experimentation and writing in the studio. Aside from Falling Down, there was nothing really different from the Oasis norm from Noel on Dig Out Your Soul.
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 22, 2017 14:09:04 GMT -5
Gonna make time to read your interviews properly coming days. Well done, jeffslate and thanks for sharing! and happy holidays to you too!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 14:11:54 GMT -5
NGHFB is Oasis 8th album without Liam + What a Life!. CY is Oasis 9th album without Liam on vocals + The Right Stuff and Ballad of the Mighty I. WBTM? is Oasis 10th album without Liam + David Holmes + Fort Knox and If Love Is The Law.
There is nothing really different than the Oasis albums with maybe a song here and there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 21:30:45 GMT -5
There is one thing Noel hasn't been consistent with on this press tour. In one interview he says he set out to challenge his audience and he purposefully wanted to divide the fan base. Then in another he says the divisive reception was surprising and he didn't realise people would react that way. In that Esquire interview he actually kind of says both things within the space of a paragraph! Considering he can't settle on either one I'm assuming the divisive online reaction to the new music took him by surprise initially, but now he's owning it. Personally I see nothing wrong with being divisive, art shouldn't always be safe.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 22, 2017 21:51:32 GMT -5
Liam and Noel will always be Kung Fu Fighting.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 22, 2017 22:04:55 GMT -5
“Liam said something to me towards the end of Oasis, when we were making the last record, which I remember, so it must have struck a chord in me,” Gallagher recalled. “We were in Abbey Road and I was playing a part on the guitar and I heard him in my headphones, and he was saying, ‘I'm not fucking having that. We're not doing anything like that.’ And I said, ‘Why not?’ And he said, ‘That was quirky and weird.’ And I went, ‘I like quirky and weird.’ And he said, ‘I fucking hate quirky and weird.’ And I thought, ah, this isn't going to go any further, because quirky and weird is what I like.” I'm almost certain this didn't happen.
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Post by knownoname on Dec 23, 2017 5:28:22 GMT -5
NGHFB is Oasis 8th album without Liam + What a Life!. CY is Oasis 9th album without Liam on vocals + The Right Stuff and Ballad of the Mighty I. WBTM? is Oasis 10th album without Liam + David Holmes + Fort Knox and If Love Is The Law. There is nothing really different than the Oasis albums with maybe a song here and there. That's how I feel about Noel's records too, but I really like them. Even WBTM? doesn't venture off far from his usual stuff, I think. But why you say it's plus If Love is The Law surprises me. That tune is She is Love 2.0, casual NG stuff. So I wonder which riff or guitar part he was playing in the studio that upset Liam.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 8:22:33 GMT -5
NGHFB is Oasis 8th album without Liam + What a Life!. CY is Oasis 9th album without Liam on vocals + The Right Stuff and Ballad of the Mighty I. WBTM? is Oasis 10th album without Liam + David Holmes + Fort Knox and If Love Is The Law. There is nothing really different than the Oasis albums with maybe a song here and there. That's how I feel about Noel's records too, but I really like them. Even WBTM? doesn't venture off far from his usual stuff, I think. But why you say it's plus If Love is The Law surprises me. That tune is She is Love 2.0, casual NG stuff. So I wonder which riff or guitar part he was playing in the studio that upset Liam. I don't know, maybe because I would like to pretend She Is Love did never happen.
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Post by thepharmacist on Dec 23, 2017 18:16:45 GMT -5
Jeff - well written and great to read as always.
Thank you,
JR
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 23, 2017 19:41:31 GMT -5
Interesting that Noel is open to the idea of revisiting the DIV and AA sessions way down the line.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Dec 23, 2017 20:29:00 GMT -5
That's how I feel about Noel's records too, but I really like them. Even WBTM? doesn't venture off far from his usual stuff, I think. But why you say it's plus If Love is The Law surprises me. That tune is She is Love 2.0, casual NG stuff. So I wonder which riff or guitar part he was playing in the studio that upset Liam. I don't know, maybe because I would like to pretend She Is Love did never happen. "She Is Love" gave me PTSD.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Dec 24, 2017 16:32:23 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe because I would like to pretend She Is Love did never happen. "She Is Love" gave me PTSD. 😅
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Dec 25, 2017 10:53:06 GMT -5
Very rare to find a good written interview online, but those are class. Great read, keep us posted with any new ones !
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Post by frjdoasis on Dec 25, 2017 12:57:43 GMT -5
Thanks a lot jeffslate
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Post by caro on Dec 30, 2017 20:31:06 GMT -5
Thank you! You lucky duck! I'd be wayyyyyy to starstruck to conduct an interview bahaha! I love them both!
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Post by jeffslate on Jan 4, 2018 14:31:56 GMT -5
“Liam said something to me towards the end of Oasis, when we were making the last record, which I remember, so it must have struck a chord in me,” Gallagher recalled. “We were in Abbey Road and I was playing a part on the guitar and I heard him in my headphones, and he was saying, ‘I'm not fucking having that. We're not doing anything like that.’ And I said, ‘Why not?’ And he said, ‘That was quirky and weird.’ And I went, ‘I like quirky and weird.’ And he said, ‘I fucking hate quirky and weird.’ And I thought, ah, this isn't going to go any further, because quirky and weird is what I like.” I'm almost certain this didn't happen. Based on what? I've interviewed Noel a bunch of times at this point. He's pretty comfortable with me. I've also been around him enough to read when he's "selling" and when he's sincere. This was said in a pretty thoughtful manner and seemed like an honest memory. He almost seemed wistful or sad at the memory. So given that I was speaking to him directly and was able to read his intent directly, what are you basing your opinion on? Not trying to be flame-y, just curious.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 4, 2018 15:30:01 GMT -5
I'm almost certain this didn't happen. Based on what? I've interviewed Noel a bunch of times at this point. He's pretty comfortable with me. I've also been around him enough to read when he's "selling" and when he's sincere. This was said in a pretty thoughtful manner and seemed like an honest memory. He almost seemed wistful or sad at the memory. So given that I was speaking to him directly and was able to read his intent directly, what are you basing your opinion on? Not trying to be flame-y, just curious. Nothing concrete, I confess, just going off what I've gathered of his character from all the hundreds of interviews I've read/watched/listened to of his over the years, and the accounts I've heard of people who've interacted with him. That's why I said I was almost certain it didn't happen. No one who wasn't in the studio with them during the Dig Out Your Soul sessions can definitely say whether it did or didn't happen. I just feel like we would've heard this anecdote before now if there was any truth in it. It reflects very badly on Liam and makes Noel look like a saint for having to put up with a bunch of luddites (which is a theme he's gone with before without ever using this anecdote to support it). If Liam really did do this, I don't get why Noel didn't say so in that dreadful press conference he did in 2011 to announce his solo career / explain why he split Oasis up. If he had that up his sleeve the whole time then why did he go with the very weak (and ultimately untrue) "Liam wanted Pretty Green to be advertised in Oasis tour programmes" line?
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Post by matt on Jan 4, 2018 16:16:56 GMT -5
In fairness to Noel, being surrounded by the future members of Beady Eye probably sapped his will for creativity in amongst such a docile lot.
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Post by pedroz on Jan 4, 2018 18:16:35 GMT -5
“Liam said something to me towards the end of Oasis, when we were making the last record, which I remember, so it must have struck a chord in me,” Gallagher recalled. “We were in Abbey Road and I was playing a part on the guitar and I heard him in my headphones, and he was saying, ‘I'm not fucking having that. We're not doing anything like that.’ And I said, ‘Why not?’ And he said, ‘That was quirky and weird.’ And I went, ‘I like quirky and weird.’ And he said, ‘I fucking hate quirky and weird.’ And I thought, ah, this isn't going to go any further, because quirky and weird is what I like.” I'm almost certain this didn't happen. I'm almost certain you don't know this didn't happen.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jan 4, 2018 18:59:53 GMT -5
In fairness to Noel, being surrounded by the future members of Beady Eye probably sapped his will for creativity in amongst such a docile lot. Gotta love it. Noel and his fans should open a booking service, they could rewrite all sorts of histories on request.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jan 4, 2018 19:06:15 GMT -5
I'm almost certain this didn't happen. Based on what? I've interviewed Noel a bunch of times at this point. He's pretty comfortable with me. I've also been around him enough to read when he's "selling" and when he's sincere. This was said in a pretty thoughtful manner and seemed like an honest memory. He almost seemed wistful or sad at the memory. So given that I was speaking to him directly and was able to read his intent directly, what are you basing your opinion on? Not trying to be flame-y, just curious. Fair play you have met him more than any of us but interviewing a bloke a few times who is a genius yarn spinner and professional bullshitter to the press doesn't necessarily give you a window to the soul. He's had many people, believing many different things at many different times.
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