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Post by niftium on Sept 19, 2024 8:28:17 GMT -5
A new oasis album would be the most hyped Oasis since Be Here Now. That’s if it happens. Even in today’s environment of streaming it would be the most talked about album in years especially in England. I think Noel and Oasis management would realise the scrutiny it’s going to receive. They will spend a fortune on it with no stone unturned. Top producers will be desperate to work on it because big money to be made. Basically what I’m trying to say is it will be a proper producer. No way noel will produce it. Dave Sardy possibly I am in no way, shape, or form suggesting that Dave Sardy should be locked in a bunker for the next four years with no way to communicate with the outside world. Thanks. |
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Post by mossy on Sept 19, 2024 9:20:56 GMT -5
A new oasis album would be the most hyped Oasis since Be Here Now. That’s if it happens. Even in today’s environment of streaming it would be the most talked about album in years especially in England. I think Noel and Oasis management would realise the scrutiny it’s going to receive. They will spend a fortune on it with no stone unturned. Top producers will be desperate to work on it because big money to be made. Basically what I’m trying to say is it will be a proper producer. No way noel will produce it. Dave Sardy possibly I am in no way, shape, or form suggesting that Dave Sardy should be locked in a bunker for the next four years with no way to communicate with the outside world. Thanks. Nuke him from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure. |
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Post by matt on Sept 19, 2024 13:44:39 GMT -5
A new oasis album would be the most hyped Oasis since Be Here Now. That’s if it happens. Even in today’s environment of streaming it would be the most talked about album in years especially in England. I think Noel and Oasis management would realise the scrutiny it’s going to receive. They will spend a fortune on it with no stone unturned. Top producers will be desperate to work on it because big money to be made. Basically what I’m trying to say is it will be a proper producer. No way noel will produce it. Dave Sardy possibly I think your underestimating Ignition management's ability to royally fuck things up. It was after all under Marcus Russell's guidance that Noel was happy to release his debut solo album with such uninspired stodgy prpduction from Sardy that makes me convinced that Ignition will have absolutely nothing to offer in advising an album to sound fresh, raw and invigorating. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 19, 2024 17:00:28 GMT -5
A new oasis album would be the most hyped Oasis since Be Here Now. That’s if it happens. Even in today’s environment of streaming it would be the most talked about album in years especially in England. I think Noel and Oasis management would realise the scrutiny it’s going to receive. They will spend a fortune on it with no stone unturned. Top producers will be desperate to work on it because big money to be made. Basically what I’m trying to say is it will be a proper producer. No way noel will produce it. Dave Sardy possibly I think your underestimating Ignition management's ability to royally fuck things up. It was after all under Marcus Russell's guidance that Noel was happy to release his debut solo album with such uninspired stodgy prpduction from Sardy that makes me convinced that Ignition will have absolutely nothing to offer in advising an album to sound fresh, raw and invigorating. NGHFB was a massive success though, so you could argue they did their job extremely well |
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Post by matt on Sept 19, 2024 17:56:24 GMT -5
I think your underestimating Ignition management's ability to royally fuck things up. It was after all under Marcus Russell's guidance that Noel was happy to release his debut solo album with such uninspired stodgy prpduction from Sardy that makes me convinced that Ignition will have absolutely nothing to offer in advising an album to sound fresh, raw and invigorating. NGHFB was a massive success though, so you could argue they did their job extremely well I think on account of the songs being there. I actually think something like If I Had A Gun would have been a bigger success if it weren't butchered in the studio. |
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Post by drselker on Sept 19, 2024 20:33:44 GMT -5
I think the production on HFB1 is too overhated, I love everything about it. We all love BHN despite its production, the songs were definitely there too. Haha
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Post by glider on Sept 19, 2024 21:07:56 GMT -5
"Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds" was going to be a massive success regardless of Sardy's production or mixes. Noel had AAA songs loaded and ready that sound good even through a fuzzy old PA system.
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Post by Manualex on Sept 20, 2024 0:29:21 GMT -5
"Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds" was going to be a massive success regardless of Sardy's production or mixes. Noel had AAA songs loaded and ready that sound good even through a fuzzy old PA system. I think Ignition did the right thing by shoving the AA stuff away and just let the NGHFB debut being a "normal" album. |
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Post by AppleScruff on Sept 20, 2024 16:25:10 GMT -5
Noel doesnt seem to have it in him to work with proper producers, with exception of Holmes of course.
Liam seems to have the better contact book at the moment.
I wonder what James Ford could do for them?
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Post by garylineker on Sept 20, 2024 16:45:01 GMT -5
I think the production on HFB1 is too overhated, I love everything about it. We all love BHN despite its production, the songs were definitely there too. Haha Noel/Oasis + Sardy = huge success. Despite whatever narrative on here some would like to push. For the few posts on here that label songs too polished or plodding, there is no.1 singles and albums with sales figures Noel hasn't been able to achieve without him. It reminds me of another couple of Live4ever board narratives that get pushed on here. Like the ones who ignore Heathen Chemistry's singles or say Beady Eyes second album was better. Doesn't seem to go outside this forum. |
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Post by jaq515 on Sept 20, 2024 16:53:57 GMT -5
if there is new album 15 years on they'll make an oasis album thats 15 years on hopefully.
Sure theyll be many people who have the rizz to work with them that aren't AA, DIV,Sardy,Morris, Stent etc etc
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Post by jeffrey on Sept 20, 2024 16:56:56 GMT -5
I don’t want them to release a new album unless it’s on par with BHN rock and roll wise. Anything containing lesser songs/melodies would diminish their legacy and I just don’t think Noel has that in him based on the past 25 years. They have 30-35 legitimate monsters to choose from for a 20-22 song set that would keep the behemoth crowds enthralled. I’m coming over from the U.S. and want to be a part of the masses bouncing endlessly for 100 minutes without a lull because of new songs that people aren’t excited about.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Sept 20, 2024 21:59:11 GMT -5
I don’t want them to release a new album unless it’s on par with BHN rock and roll wise. Anything containing lesser songs/melodies would diminish their legacy and I just don’t think Noel has that in him based on the past 25 years. They have 30-35 legitimate monsters to choose from for a 20-22 song set that would keep the behemoth crowds enthralled. I’m coming over from the U.S. and want to be a part of the masses bouncing endlessly for 100 minutes without a lull because of new songs that people aren’t excited about. "A new Oasis album won't sound as good as the old ones" is a pretty poor excuse for them not to do one. You could say the same about the concerts - "New Oasis concerts won't sound as good as the old ones". |
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Post by AppleScruff on Sept 21, 2024 2:28:03 GMT -5
I don’t want them to release a new album unless it’s on par with BHN rock and roll wise. Anything containing lesser songs/melodies would diminish their legacy and I just don’t think Noel has that in him based on the past 25 years. They have 30-35 legitimate monsters to choose from for a 20-22 song set that would keep the behemoth crowds enthralled. I’m coming over from the U.S. and want to be a part of the masses bouncing endlessly for 100 minutes without a lull because of new songs that people aren’t excited about. Realistically you’d be talking about 2 or 3 tracks. I could live with that over Little by Little or Cigarettes and Alcohol for the millionth time tbh |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 21, 2024 4:19:07 GMT -5
I don’t want them to release a new album unless it’s on par with BHN rock and roll wise. Anything containing lesser songs/melodies would diminish their legacy and I just don’t think Noel has that in him based on the past 25 years. They have 30-35 legitimate monsters to choose from for a 20-22 song set that would keep the behemoth crowds enthralled. I’m coming over from the U.S. and want to be a part of the masses bouncing endlessly for 100 minutes without a lull because of new songs that people aren’t excited about. Agree with a lot of that. I don't think anything they do will damage Oasis's legacy 94-09 but I don't think people realize how difficult it is to make a great album. It would be a tricky record, if they go and make the album they think people want it would probably be a disaster, if they make an album that doesn't sound 'Oasis' people will ask what they're doing. It will be harder than anything they've done before. |
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Post by Terrasolo on Sept 21, 2024 7:40:32 GMT -5
I'm all in for a new album. I do think that Andy and Gem should take a back seat and let Noel take the writing reigns alone, and maybe get a single Liam penned song on there, so long as it is genuinely his. But Noel's HFB work easily shows me that he can make a kick ass Oasis album. He'll take his same great tunes, make them heavier rock n roll, and Liam will sound great on the album as usual. It's live where he falters. But I've no doubt that Noel can make a great new Oasis album, so long as it is him alone. Gem and Andy had some fine tunes, but as much as I love the albums they collaborated on, I also feel that they were the weak link to those albums, writing wise. As musicians, I like them both very much.
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Post by jeffrey on Sept 21, 2024 8:08:29 GMT -5
"A new Oasis album won't sound as good as the old ones is a pretty poor excuse for them not to do one.”
“You could say the same about the concerts - New Oasis concerts won't sound as good as the old ones".
You’ve used the word sound — idk if you mean actual sound, as in sonically or production, but I’m talking strictly quality of songs. They’ve said nothing official about an album to this point. If/when they do, it will certainly have an immense level of hype and expectations, but again, I’m not sure they can produce something that would meet the level of expectations.
As far as live, there’s absolutely no reason to think they won’t sound massive. The only question is Liam’s vocals and it even at his worst solo moments he was head and shoulders above the last 5 years during Oasis.
“Realistically you’d be talking about 2 or 3 tracks. I could live with that over Little by Little or Cigarettes and Alcohol for the millionth time tbh”
It’s been 15 years since fans have had the opportunity to see Oasis play these songs and I’d guess half of the attendees will have never seen them. I’m looking for the classic nostalgia at the gigs and I believe the majority of fans will feel the same. Give me the hits and let us bounce to the rock n roll tunes and put our arms around each other/sing our hearts out for the ballads/slower ones.
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Post by rollagher on Sept 24, 2024 7:32:37 GMT -5
I think a new Album would be a clever move after all this backlash over Liam's voice at Wembley. There seems to be a whole new generation who now had listened Oasis for the first time. So they only know Liam's 94-96 voice. If I'd only knew DM and WTSMG and then heard Liam 2024 in Wembley I'd might be shocked too. A new Album would create a mega hype and have a lot new listeners who could get familiar with Liam's contemprary voice. And for the Gigs a Mix of new and old Songs would create a great dynamic.
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Post by matt on Sept 24, 2024 9:30:08 GMT -5
"A new Oasis album won't sound as good as the old ones is a pretty poor excuse for them not to do one.” “You could say the same about the concerts - New Oasis concerts won't sound as good as the old ones". You’ve used the word sound — idk if you mean actual sound, as in sonically or production, but I’m talking strictly quality of songs. They’ve said nothing official about an album to this point. If/when they do, it will certainly have an immense level of hype and expectations, but again, I’m not sure they can produce something that would meet the level of expectations. As far as live, there’s absolutely no reason to think they won’t sound massive. The only question is Liam’s vocals and it even at his worst solo moments he was head and shoulders above the last 5 years during Oasis. “Realistically you’d be talking about 2 or 3 tracks. I could live with that over Little by Little or Cigarettes and Alcohol for the millionth time tbh” It’s been 15 years since fans have had the opportunity to see Oasis play these songs and I’d guess half of the attendees will have never seen them. I’m looking for the classic nostalgia at the gigs and I believe the majority of fans will feel the same. Give me the hits and let us bounce to the rock n roll tunes and put our arms around each other/sing our hearts out for the ballads/slower ones. Expect the hits for sure. This won't be an experimental setlist and after 16 years, I'm fine with that. That said, I hope they drop in a couple of singles that have steadily increased in popularity over the years, like Stop Crying and Little By Little, songs that were omitted from setlists on the last tour. |
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Post by surrealneil on Sept 24, 2024 9:33:02 GMT -5
NGHFB was a massive success though, so you could argue they did their job extremely well I think on account of the songs being there. I actually think something like If I Had A Gun would have been a bigger success if it weren't butchered in the studio. I doubt it. Better production or not, it was never doing much as a single. Different times. Oasis singles weren't even making the top 10 by the end. Noel has never gone beyond top 15 with a single. Liam has had one top 20 single. The singles charts today and the way they're calculated just aren't geared up for that kinda music. Especially a Noel plodder like If I Had A Gun. |
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Post by mossy on Sept 24, 2024 10:21:48 GMT -5
"Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds" was going to be a massive success regardless of Sardy's production or mixes. Noel had AAA songs loaded and ready that sound good even through a fuzzy old PA system. I think Ignition did the right thing by shoving the AA stuff away and just let the NGHFB debut being a "normal" album. I think he meant “Triple A” songs not amorphous androgynous songs 😆 |
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Post by Manualex on Sept 24, 2024 10:26:07 GMT -5
I think Ignition did the right thing by shoving the AA stuff away and just let the NGHFB debut being a "normal" album. I think he meant “Triple A” songs not amorphous androgynous songs 😆 They could have been AAA material, but the world wasn't ready yet for psychedelic Noel music yet. |
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Post by mossy on Sept 24, 2024 10:29:19 GMT -5
I think he meant “Triple A” songs not amorphous androgynous songs 😆 They could have been AAA material, but the world wasn't ready yet for psychedelic Noel music yet. Reread his post he wasn’t talking about aa or psychedelia at all 😅 He was saying Noel had loads of top tier songs for his debut album and that’s what made it successful. Too many acronyms on this forum 😉 |
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 24, 2024 10:34:25 GMT -5
I wouldn't say there were many AAA standard songs on that album anyway. It's probably the most boring record either brother came out with since the split.
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Post by mossy on Sept 24, 2024 12:31:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't say there were many AAA standard songs on that album anyway. It's probably the most boring record either brother came out with since the split. IIHAG & WAL have been streamed more than some big Oasis tunes… artists.spotify.com/songwriter/7rFkzn5qPrcLHgxtiTOYj9 |
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