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Post by felain22 on Sept 3, 2024 10:52:04 GMT -5
I had a dream last night about these gigs and that they played Fuckin’ In The Bushes LIVE (I.e. not the prerecording) and it sounded huge, with Liam doing the “WE PUT THIS FESTIVAL ON YA BASTARDS” I am now convinced that this is what they should open with Biblical
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Post by wildliam on Sept 3, 2024 10:54:57 GMT -5
I had a dream last night about these gigs and that they played Fuckin’ In The Bushes LIVE (I.e. not the prerecording) and it sounded huge, with Liam doing the “WE PUT THIS FESTIVAL ON YA BASTARDS” I am now convinced that this is what they should open with Don't know what you took before sleeping, but give me a box of it definitely! 😁
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Post by standonit on Sept 3, 2024 10:55:08 GMT -5
When you're reading about it or discussing it all the time on here, or on social media, it feels like things are going on for a long time. It seems like there's been absolute silence from the band for a long time, it seems like there's been negativity about the ticket situation for a long time.
But it's been a week since the reunion was announced, and a few days since tickets went on sale, it hasn't been long. They didn't do a press conference for the reunion because they didn't have to, and maybe they wanted a holiday and to have a few more things sorted out (e.g. lineup confirmation) before they sit down and take questions.
Noel is silent because Noel talks in interviews, and he hasn't done one. Liam is silent on twitter, but 90% of the time people can't work out if he's being serious or taking the piss anyway, so I don't think we're missing out on a huge amount of clarity there.
Things will happen in time.
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Post by jumpinjackflash78 on Sept 3, 2024 11:03:22 GMT -5
Oasis usually played in front of 4 - 8.000 fans in germany. So i am not sure if they can sell 40.000 tickets for just one gig. Don't get me wrong. The biggest newspapers and tv stations talked about the reunion but it will be quite difficult to sell four of five football stadiums. I would expect them to play the biggest indoor arenas in germany. But we will see. Not even 100% sure about Germany getting a gig tbh See my other post on potential 26 dates. Less gigs, big venues = Most comfy touring On the other hand one big gig + covering Switzerland/Austria/Eastern Europe aswell that's a different thing than your regular 3-4 dates per country leg. Let's see...
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Post by codyr on Sept 3, 2024 11:05:11 GMT -5
Oasis usually played in front of 4 - 8.000 fans in germany. So i am not sure if they can sell 40.000 tickets for just one gig. Don't get me wrong. The biggest newspapers and tv stations talked about the reunion but it will be quite difficult to sell four of five football stadiums. I would expect them to play the biggest indoor arenas in germany. But we will see. Not even 100% sure about Germany getting a gig tbh See my other post on potential 26 dates. Less gigs, big venues = Most comfy touring On the other hand one big gig + covering Switzerland/Austria/Eastern Europe aswell that's a different thing than your regular 3-4 dates per country leg. Let's see... They could play one or two festivals in germany instead of doing solo shows and would make tons of cash.
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 3, 2024 11:06:15 GMT -5
I think they should have released a quick 'behind the scenes' video of the photoshoot. They wouldn't even need to say anything, just a quick 30 second video of them laughing and getting along would have sufficed and got major traction online.
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Post by Sadie on Sept 3, 2024 11:16:45 GMT -5
This gave me a good laugh
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Post by zeberdee on Sept 3, 2024 11:34:41 GMT -5
Wonder what Lee Mavers thoughts are on the reunion and if he turns up to watch one of the shows?
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Post by standbymoi on Sept 3, 2024 11:47:44 GMT -5
Wonder what Lee Mavers thoughts are on the reunion and if he turns up to watch one of the shows? Same with Paul Weller, I’m guessing no
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Post by jumpinjackflash78 on Sept 3, 2024 11:56:28 GMT -5
Not even 100% sure about Germany getting a gig tbh See my other post on potential 26 dates. Less gigs, big venues = Most comfy touring On the other hand one big gig + covering Switzerland/Austria/Eastern Europe aswell that's a different thing than your regular 3-4 dates per country leg. Let's see... They could play one or two festivals in germany instead of doing solo shows and would make tons of cash. Cheers codyr. I wouldn't expect them doing festivals at all on this tour. Was pretty much ruled out from the beginning and this wasn't brought up regarding any european dates as far as I'm concerned. Handful of big shows on european soil is my money on and seems to be worked out (word on the street)
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Post by PepsiNebula on Sept 3, 2024 12:04:41 GMT -5
I feel an Amazone Prime Video exclusive documentary is coming. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon streamed one of the concerts, like they did with the Kendrick Lamar concert earlier this year.
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Post by wildliam on Sept 3, 2024 12:25:15 GMT -5
I feel an Amazone Prime Video exclusive documentary is coming. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon streamed one of the concerts, like they did with the Kendrick Lamar concert earlier this year. "come see, it will not be televised" Do you want another drama? 🤣😬
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Post by Manualex on Sept 3, 2024 12:32:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon streamed one of the concerts, like they did with the Kendrick Lamar concert earlier this year. "come see, it will not be televised" Do you want another drama? 🤣😬 There's a fourth Gallagher brother and we didn't knew all this time.
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Post by codyr on Sept 3, 2024 13:08:11 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon streamed one of the concerts, like they did with the Kendrick Lamar concert earlier this year. "come see, it will not be televised" Do you want another drama? 🤣😬 That's just for their uk dates
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Post by racingman11 on Sept 3, 2024 13:37:27 GMT -5
"come see, it will not be televised" Do you want another drama? 🤣😬 That's just for their uk dates Good point.
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Post by riverman on Sept 3, 2024 14:01:17 GMT -5
Well, as a Brazilian I'm very anxious (and worried) that they won't end up coming over here.
I have my concerns about Noel's desire to go on a world tour again, and Liam has also said that he doesn't know if he wants to do big tours again (because of his dog, which is plausible, but could just be a joke).
There's a rumor on that @aboutoasis profile (on Twitter, which got a lot of things right) that more dates in Europe could happen between October and November.
So I'm thinking about spending the money I don't have to see them in the US.
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Post by matt on Sept 3, 2024 14:36:35 GMT -5
If Ignition and the band were smart, they'd film a documentary about the reunion. Or provide other forms of content. They did it for Lord Don't Slow Me Down, no reason if they're getting on okay.
They are primed to give more content. The audience is clearly there. You wonder how much this 'brat' iconography is benefiting them and the younger images of Noel and Liam doing the rounds because here are the original authentic brats, not some corporate contrived image (*cough* Charlie XCX *cough*). So their popularity ain't some U2 gimmick of trying to force relevance down your throat when popularity is waning, the market is there.
But somehow I suspect that Marcus Russell and co are happy to just take the money and run rather than bolster the legacy for future generations. This is Ignition, the most backward case study in popular music management in history.
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Post by bmore007 on Sept 3, 2024 14:42:22 GMT -5
I’m hoping since Liam was forced to grow up and put his big boy pants on as a solo act he better understands all the work that goes into this and do his best to keep the peace
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 3, 2024 14:47:49 GMT -5
I’m hoping since Liam was forced to grow up and put his big boy pants on as a solo act he better understands all the work that goes into this and do his best to keep the peace
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 3, 2024 14:55:50 GMT -5
When you're reading about it or discussing it all the time on here, or on social media, it feels like things are going on for a long time. It seems like there's been absolute silence from the band for a long time, it seems like there's been negativity about the ticket situation for a long time. But it's been a week since the reunion was announced, and a few days since tickets went on sale, it hasn't been long. They didn't do a press conference for the reunion because they didn't have to, and maybe they wanted a holiday and to have a few more things sorted out (e.g. lineup confirmation) before they sit down and take questions. Noel is silent because Noel talks in interviews, and he hasn't done one. Liam is silent on twitter, but 90% of the time people can't work out if he's being serious or taking the piss anyway, so I don't think we're missing out on a huge amount of clarity there. Things will happen in time. Best post in this thread in a while. 100% agree.
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Post by sheisloved on Sept 3, 2024 14:58:32 GMT -5
Too much money on the table to fuck this up. Plus Liam has Debbie. He's matured and he's not having drug fits. Also he's learned over the past 10-15 years how much work is involved.
He's become more professional. I really don't see them fighting again tbh.
I think they will be fine
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Post by thestylecouncil on Sept 3, 2024 15:03:30 GMT -5
I’m hoping since Liam was forced to grow up and put his big boy pants on as a solo act he better understands all the work that goes into this and do his best to keep the peace That just sounds like you're massively buying into Noel's narrative where he was keen to emphasize his own contributions and undermine Liam's while also blaming him for all kind of things. Since the Oasis days everyone else was always happy to work with Liam, all kinds of people in the music industry speak very highly of him, whether it's bandmates, other musicians, producers, crew etc., so I think you're underrating his work as a professional while also putting too much blame on him as if any potential arguments were only his fault
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Post by Firefly on Sept 3, 2024 15:45:31 GMT -5
I’m hoping since Liam was forced to grow up and put his big boy pants on as a solo act he better understands all the work that goes into this and do his best to keep the peace That just sounds like you're massively buying into Noel's narrative where he was keen to emphasize his own contributions and undermine Liam's while also blaming him for all kind of things. Since the Oasis days everyone else was always happy to work with Liam, all kinds of people in the music industry speak very highly of him, whether it's bandmates, other musicians, producers, crew etc., so I think you're underrating his work as a professional while also putting too much blame on him as if any potential arguments were only his fault No need for narratives. Noel really would've found Liam difficult and vice versa. It's a brother thing. Liam might be meek as a lamb with anyone else except Noel. Put the two of them together and it's fireworks even if there's never fireworks with anyone else. That said I can see the two of em being all right with each other nowadays. They're both older and wiser.
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Post by Terrasolo on Sept 3, 2024 15:59:01 GMT -5
Also it's not really Noel's narrative. It goes all the way back to their first big gig with the situation on the ferry. Or Liam refusing to sing at the MTV Unplugged appearance, for just two examples. Liam was always more interested in just doing what he wanted, rather than what was needed. I'm not pointing fingers myself, but given all the stories told over the years, not just those told by Noel, it certainly seems like Liam is a big contributing factor. Noel played a part for sure, again as other have mentioned they are brothers and that's not easy. I could never work with my brother and we have a good relationship. And they both knew how to press each other's buttons. But I do agree that Debbie and a solo career may very well have taught Liam and thing or two about being a professional.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Sept 3, 2024 16:25:45 GMT -5
There are several instances tho where it's Noel who walks out of tours, so why not give him the same energy some of you are giving Liam? And everytime there's actually a different point of view to Noel's when it comes to big controversial moments in the band's history, it sounds way different to what Noel has to say. Unsurprisingly he comes across much better in his own retellings, but when you hear what others who were there have to say about it, it sounds way different. Some examples: Look what Owen Morris has to say about the cricket bat incident or Andy Bell about the night Oasis split. Or watch the infamous Whiskey A Go Go gig on YouTube. If anyone it's Noel who performs badly there but yet he storms off in dramatic fashion. They had to cancel a few gigs on their US tour because of that. If Liam would have walked out then and there, some of you would frame him as the problem and bad guy but don't do the same when it's Noel
I could talk about all this in much more detail, but no need to do so now and it's not like I want to drag out this old discussion. I'm just tired that after all these years some are still buying into this narrative as if everything is Liam's fault and that's why I responded in the first place
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