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Post by quantum on Aug 29, 2024 6:24:46 GMT -5
My friend has just has a ballot confirmation through, but the time to receive the code has now changed to 5pm tomorrow. Not really much time for a pre-sale. Did he say what they have to do? Sign up to something? Enter a code, etc
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Post by goletitout1986 on Aug 29, 2024 6:24:50 GMT -5
My friend has just has a ballot confirmation through, but the time to receive the code has now changed to 5pm tomorrow. Not really much time for a pre-sale. The presale jstarts at 7 pm. This is playing havoc with when I return from holiday!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 29, 2024 6:28:16 GMT -5
The Gallagher brothers live rent free in Simon Price's head.
He makes out, like his beloved Manics do, that's he's so into rock 'n' roll -- the spirit of it, the idealism of rebellious youth, the revolutionary potential... But really I think he just loves the clothes and the haircuts and the makeup. All the extraneous stuff that can be fun, but which doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. As Pete Postlethwaite says in Brassed Off, "It's music that matters!"
The Gallaghers simply wore the wrong clothes for Simon, in shades of green and blue, not black or leopard print. And they didn't honour the legacy of Bolan and Bowie by camping it up with eyeliner and feather boas. So discard the music, dismiss it out of hand, because they got all the surface level stuff, which is all he really cares about, wrong.
I suspect that Simon was bullied by kids whose behaviour resembled the Gallagher's public personas, and because he's never got over how those bullies made him feel, he's never permitted himself to give the music a chance. If that is the case, I get it, and sympathise. But at the same time it's rather churlish, and totally undermines his credibilty as a critic.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 29, 2024 6:29:07 GMT -5
Always so funny to see "liberals" and protectors of the working class getting angry when the working class don't act as they'd like Yeah, that is absolutely true. You've hit the nail on the head there.
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 29, 2024 6:35:05 GMT -5
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Post by andymorris on Aug 29, 2024 6:47:35 GMT -5
I literally had a guy once on the phone, his back to stage, talking to someone the entire gig about absolutely something else. Just in front of me. And of course shouting, because he couldn't hear the other person and the other person couldn't hear him. I guess until you didn't experience that, you don't care. I always managed to avoid bottle of piss though. But morons with smartphone are hard to escape. When I was at Noel at the Hydro these two guys turned up beside us about 4 songs into the set. Both of them had a tray of drinks in one hand, and their phone in the other. Spent pretty much the entire gig looking at their phones not paying any attention to the band. Bizarre. Yeah weird, especially given the price of tickets nowadays. Go to a bar instead and go crazy on the drinks
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 29, 2024 6:52:59 GMT -5
Always so funny to see "liberals" and protectors of the working class getting angry when the working class don't act as they'd like Yes and according to Price, what working class people they do represent is just the vile horrible racist lot. Obviously good working class people never liked Oasis, as Price is the gatekeeper of their tastes. His binary, stupidly simplistic take is spoken like somebody who is so far removed from the working class, like most of the media bubble. Price also boasts he's apparently more working class than the Gallaghers so speaks for them more than Oasis. He also fails to mention he went to public school. Really? Bloody hell. So he really is just your archetypal oblivious middle class liberal engaging in class tourism, smugly telling people less fortunate than he what they should and shouldn't like. How do people like this, who are reasonably intelligent, fall into the same ignorant patterns again and again and again? It's kind of comical really, but infuriating too.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 29, 2024 7:05:02 GMT -5
Always so funny to see "liberals" and protectors of the working class getting angry when the working class don't act as they'd like Yes and according to Price, what working class people they do represent is just the vile horrible racist lot. Obviously good working class people never liked Oasis, as Price is the gatekeeper of their tastes. His binary, stupidly simplistic take is spoken like somebody who is so far removed from the working class, like most of the media bubble. Price also boasts he's apparently more working class than the Gallaghers so speaks for them more than Oasis. He also fails to mention he went to public school. He'll have to give up his Manic Street Preachers fanclub membership then. James and Nicky love Oasis. And his book about The Cure, he'll have to distance himself from that. By the sounds of it, Robert Smith and Noel got on great, and Robert issued a statement to say how "surprised and delighted" he was to be asked to remix 'Pretty Boy', which he called a "gorgeous song."
It's almost like it's just Simon that has a hang-up on the Gallagher brothers.
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Post by Lundblad on Aug 29, 2024 7:06:04 GMT -5
Yes and according to Price, what working class people they do represent is just the vile horrible racist lot. Obviously good working class people never liked Oasis, as Price is the gatekeeper of their tastes. His binary, stupidly simplistic take is spoken like somebody who is so far removed from the working class, like most of the media bubble. Price also boasts he's apparently more working class than the Gallaghers so speaks for them more than Oasis. He also fails to mention he went to public school. Really? Bloody hell. So he really is just your archetypal oblivious middle class liberal engaging in class tourism, smugly telling people less fortunate than he what they should and shouldn't like. How do people like this, who are reasonably intelligent, fall into the same ignorant patterns again and again and again? It's kind of comical really, but infuriating too. I have to give him credit for the entertainment. It is an entertaining read, but he comes across as narrow-minded self-absorbed idiot.
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Post by powerage09 on Aug 29, 2024 7:15:23 GMT -5
I thought they would be £130 - £150, they are right at the top end aren't they, even for Manchester. I will find a way to pay for these! I hoped (I mean, to keep it real) for 120-130, 150 is a bit of a stretch but I had no doubt they were gonna cash in Agreed. They really are going to push the limits of this tour tbh, in terms of size, prices etc. Be interesting to see if these numbers put your more casual punter off.
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Post by surrealneil on Aug 29, 2024 7:15:30 GMT -5
Didn't they used to be a band that kept tickets reasonable priced? Like to be cool with the fans... What wankers 150 is a joke. Yeah But the overheads of EVERYTHING has gone up. Do you think you can hire Wembley for the same price as in 2009? That goes for the cost of everything. Security companies, ticketing agencies, logistics companies etc etc etc. Everything is more far expensive than the first time they were around and it reflects in prices. Of course there's an element of fleecing fans, everyone wants to make their cut from the band, concert organisers, ticketing companies etc. However its still a lot to do with the cost of even putting on these shows in 2024
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Post by vespa on Aug 29, 2024 7:20:00 GMT -5
Be cheaper to watch them abroad , uk is fucked
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Post by andymorris on Aug 29, 2024 7:21:43 GMT -5
This is the kind of person you cant argue with. Ever.
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Aug 29, 2024 7:32:08 GMT -5
Just read Simon's article. I've tried writing the way that he wrote here (not exactly what he wrote, but tried being hard and going hard and then ending up flailing and flubbing.) It's hard to stick to words that literally fucking go nowhere and ultimately have no substance and no meaning. That's what that article is. That's purely the most garbage article I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Holy shit lmao. I've written a lot of good ones and mostly for others, but this takes the cake. He needed to bin that article the minute he finished that first paragraph. Onward.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 29, 2024 7:38:43 GMT -5
Some smart arse on here probably missed out by answering "The Rain's drum machine" If it was a type your own answer format, some smart arse wouldve put that 😂 Although technically that was before they were even called Oasis
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Post by rorymcbride on Aug 29, 2024 7:41:40 GMT -5
Get a babysitter and enjoy yourself. I can’t imagine a three year old will like getting covered in someone else’s piss Id be coming from Brazil, mate. Cant leave him with a babysitter, can I? Alright calm down love. Sorry I didn't read your autobiography before replying.
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Post by matt on Aug 29, 2024 7:54:03 GMT -5
Yes and according to Price, what working class people they do represent is just the vile horrible racist lot. Obviously good working class people never liked Oasis, as Price is the gatekeeper of their tastes. His binary, stupidly simplistic take is spoken like somebody who is so far removed from the working class, like most of the media bubble. Price also boasts he's apparently more working class than the Gallaghers so speaks for them more than Oasis. He also fails to mention he went to public school. Really? Bloody hell. So he really is just your archetypal oblivious middle class liberal engaging in class tourism, smugly telling people less fortunate than he what they should and shouldn't like. How do people like this, who are reasonably intelligent, fall into the same ignorant patterns again and again and again? It's kind of comical really, but infuriating too. Well you've just summed up the media representation of the working class. If it's not negative stereotypes (the ugly right wing piss throwing brigade), it's positive discrimination of an undervalued 'intellectual' class. For those 'protectors of the working class' in the media, the likes of your Stuart Maconies, John Harris, Paul Morleys, and Simon Prices, they project this romantic middle class idea of the working class, as if it's an underrepresented, romantic, rebellious and intellectual group of people. And of course the middle class Guardian types lap it up because, hey, this group of urchins seem oh so civilised and sophisticated, and haven't they done well for themselves. So tick that box, the likes of Price speak to an audience that gives them their only experience of working class reflections, an audience that secretly would rather be dead than visit a council estate. Price et.al. base their entire careers from the approval of middle classes. And then there's the unspoken unrepresented majority of working class folk. People like you and me who are not represented in the media. We don't adhere to the right wing thuggery nor the pseudo-intellectual polishing of the working class. Unfortunately we don't suit a simple binary narrative of ignorant and naive middle class assumptions. The majority of us are peaceful, fair minded folk, not racist thugs and at the same time, don't feel the need to intellectualise every bit of culture if we happen to like it. And so to narrow minded idiots like Simon Price and his lackies in the media, I love Oasis. They are not art. They are not intellectual. They are not sophisticated. They are not rebellious. But music, going back to campfire singalongs, was never originally these things. If it speaks a truth, a communal truth through sincere emotional melodies that aligns with lyrical sentiments, then it's music that speaks to the heart and not the mind. It can just make you believe in better things. It's an emotional and expressive thing, and that makes it as great and impactful as Price and his ilks far more intelligent and artsy band. I don't need Price projecting his insecurities by thought policing my musical tastes but he crosses the line with his reductive takes on working class ethics, a class of which he evidently has no proximity to anymore.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 29, 2024 7:55:46 GMT -5
Be cheaper to watch them abroad , uk is fucked Abroad where? US will hardly be any cheaper and they’re not doing anything on the continent.
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 29, 2024 8:00:35 GMT -5
Be cheaper to watch them abroad , uk is fucked Abroad where? US will hardly be any cheaper and they’re not doing anything on the continent. US will definitely be cheaper. Not by much, but if it's true they're planning on playing US Football stadiums and outdoor venues, then tickets will be a lot more reasonable than the UK gigs.
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Post by quantum on Aug 29, 2024 8:07:20 GMT -5
Read here if you feel dirty about clicking a DM link :-)
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Post by noeloliam on Aug 29, 2024 8:19:36 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Post by Flashbax on Aug 29, 2024 8:59:20 GMT -5
This feeling of the last couple of days is surreal. I became a fan by Oasis because of Stop the Clocks on my brothers iPod in 2011. Rock 'n' Roll Star, Acquiesce and Don't Look Back in Anger were amazing to me, I never heard anything like it. The next years I bought all their albums and singles. I became a member of this forum in October 2014 (almost 10! years) because I wanted to know when the Be Here Now reissue was coming. Amazing times, finding out about all those stories & bootlegs. I spent a fortune on them, went to see Noel twice in Utrecht & Amsterdam and Liam just before Covid in 2020 in Amsterdam. I had quite a rough time as a teenager but those songs were always there for me. The amount of times I listened to Half the World Away or Live Forever in bed at night. This tuesday it all became full circle. What an amazing feeling, I got really emotional when I first heard it and to be honest, I still can't believe it.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 29, 2024 9:23:23 GMT -5
matt, I enjoyed your post to me. Those kind of posts are your speciality really -- your writing is clearly considered, and yet impassioned too. And I was pleased with what I was able to say; I spent some time thinking about how to word it. But, you know, maybe the perfect rebuke to the journalistic follies of Simon Price and his ilk was staring us in the face the whole time, in this piece of wisdom sent down through the ages:
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 29, 2024 10:00:42 GMT -5
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Post by scorpiosonic on Aug 29, 2024 10:15:25 GMT -5
that was actually super wholesome and cute
some good PR for noel 😂
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