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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 5, 2024 21:37:19 GMT -5
New songs. Not covers.
Anything good? Has any 'original' AI music made it into your music collection yet? |
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Post by maxigonzalez23 on Aug 6, 2024 0:05:48 GMT -5
I made this EP, with Liam's voice, new songs, melody made in udio and then re-mixed and produced by me. I really like the final result
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Post by matt on Nov 11, 2024 16:32:36 GMT -5
New songs. Not covers. Anything good? Has any 'original' AI music made it into your music collection yet? My worry isn't that AI is going to destroy creativity. My worry is that I will like the results. |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Nov 11, 2024 16:47:46 GMT -5
Iāll never listen to AI music or story. Iām a creative person, Iām always writingā¦.
I like being around people but I like time to myself just as much, if not more at timesā¦thatās when I recharge, reflect, and create. I respect and love the magic of creative processā¦.
God bless.
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Post by matt on Nov 11, 2024 18:38:47 GMT -5
Iāll never listen to AI music or story. Iām a creative person, Iām always writingā¦. I like being around people but I like time to myself just as much, if not more at timesā¦thatās when I recharge, reflect, and create. I respect and love the magic of creative processā¦. God bless. To clarify my comments above, it's not that I'm not worried about AI destroying creativity, it's that, sadly, I think it will and that we are passed the point of no return. Very cynical about it but absolutely agree, on principle I won't engage with anything artificially made. |
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Post by shadowcaster on Nov 11, 2024 19:11:40 GMT -5
Iāll never listen to AI music or story. Iām a creative person, Iām always writingā¦. I like being around people but I like time to myself just as much, if not more at timesā¦thatās when I recharge, reflect, and create. I respect and love the magic of creative processā¦. God bless. To clarify my comments above, it's not that I'm not worried about AI destroying creativity, it's that, sadly, I think it will and that we are passed the point of no return. Very cynical about it but absolutely agree, on principle I won't engage with anything artificially made. Call me naĆÆve, but I still believe that AI music will be nothing more than a passing fad. The average attention span these days is shorter than it's ever been in history, thanks to the instant dopamine hit available in the form of TikTok, Reels, Shorts, etc. Eventually, the people will get bored of AI music and simply move on to something else - more than likely, something even worse. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 12, 2024 4:38:30 GMT -5
Anything artificial, especially music is not my cup of tea.
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Post by tiger40 on Nov 12, 2024 13:53:50 GMT -5
To clarify my comments above, it's not that I'm not worried about AI destroying creativity, it's that, sadly, I think it will and that we are passed the point of no return. Very cynical about it but absolutely agree, on principle I won't engage with anything artificially made. Call me naĆÆve, but I still believe that AI music will be nothing more than a passing fad. The average attention span these days is shorter than it's ever been in history, thanks to the instant dopamine hit available in the form of TikTok, Reels, Shorts, etc. Eventually, the people will get bored of AI music and simply move on to something else - more than likely, something even worse. Agreed. I refuse to have anything to do with AI whether it's music or anything else come to that. |
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Nov 12, 2024 14:16:28 GMT -5
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Post by resurrection89 on Nov 12, 2024 14:16:28 GMT -5
Anything artificial, especially music is not my cup of tea. My thoughts exactly. AI can do one. I donāt care if it delivers another āI am the resurrectionā or āsupersonicā itās empty. I despise it TBH. Trouble is there is ZERO restriction on it; itās like weāre all concerned by it yet it keeps happening anyway. As usual humans take things to the max regardless of the implications. I say humans but itās a tiny percentage that frig things upš |
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Post by niftium on Nov 12, 2024 14:22:22 GMT -5
I understand the qualms about how these models were trained, but we're at the point where the AI output can be as good as the artists themselves. If you told me most of the AI Oasis tracks I've heard were actually written and recorded by the band in secret over the last year, I would believe it. Doesn't matter to me whether it originated as a chatGPT prompt in someone's mom's basement or from the pen of the mighty I himself.
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Nov 12, 2024 14:55:32 GMT -5
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Post by robg1979 on Nov 12, 2024 14:55:32 GMT -5
I understand the qualms about how these models were trained, but we're at the point where the AI output can be as good as the artists themselves. If you told me most of the AI Oasis tracks I've heard were actually written and recorded by the band in secret over the last year, I would believe it. Doesn't matter to me whether it originated as a chatGPT prompt in someone's mom's basement or from the pen of the mighty I himself. The voice model of Liam is improving all the time, but have you really heard anything that sounds like genuine Oasis? I've not heard a single one that could persuade me into thinking it was the real deal. The best I've heard is probably this one, but even then I'd only go as far in saying it could pass as a demo recorded by Beady Eye. That sounds damning, but I love Beady Eye! I just mean in the song structure, sometimes missing middle 8's or a proper chorus. |
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Nov 12, 2024 14:58:46 GMT -5
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Post by resurrection89 on Nov 12, 2024 14:58:46 GMT -5
I understand the qualms about how these models were trained, but we're at the point where the AI output can be as good as the artists themselves. If you told me most of the AI Oasis tracks I've heard were actually written and recorded by the band in secret over the last year, I would believe it. Doesn't matter to me whether it originated as a chatGPT prompt in someone's mom's basement or from the pen of the mighty I himself. Yeah but itās soulless no matter how āgoodā it gets. Iād rather a song I donāt particularly like by humans than a great song by a robot. At least itās real. Imagine if we clone 4 beckenbaurers , 3 zidaneās and 3 messiās. Yes they would be the best team ever but it wouldnāt mean anything. Or a virtual reality headset of walking around New York? Yeah entertaining for a while but not a patch on actually going to New York itself and experiencing what the city is really like, smells, noise, people, taste of the local food etc. āTrue perfection has to be imperfectā |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 12, 2024 15:03:21 GMT -5
I take a different outlook.
AI allows a lot of people to get into making music. But the people who will benefit the most are those who are already musically talented. If they can learn to use the new AI music tools in conjunction with current methods, they will be able to churn out quality music faster than ever before. And without needing a production studio.
AI empowers artists.
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Nov 12, 2024 15:21:31 GMT -5
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Post by resurrection89 on Nov 12, 2024 15:21:31 GMT -5
I take a different outlook. AI allows a lot of people to get into making music. But the people who will benefit the most are those who are already musically talented. If they can learn to use the new AI music tools in conjunction with current methods, they will be able to churn out quality music faster than ever before. And without needing a production studio. AI empowers artists. āLearn to use the new AI music toolsā in other words cheating. John Lennon would be turning in his grave about this. Has a robot ever dreamed what itās like to get out of the city, has a computer ever felt instant love from seeing a girl, has AI ever got pissed on a Saturday night with mates and had an amazing time? Just 3 examples that inspired one of the greatest LPās ever in āDefinately maybeā. Careful what you wish for. Have a think about where this is heading for humanity. It wonāt stop at recreating art. On the subject though has anyone thought the song ācouncil skiesā might be AI generated? It feels like about 3 Noel songs rolled into one. There are a few bits from ādead to the worldā in it for sure. The same arrangements in places |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 12, 2024 15:38:45 GMT -5
I take a different outlook. AI allows a lot of people to get into making music. But the people who will benefit the most are those who are already musically talented. If they can learn to use the new AI music tools in conjunction with current methods, they will be able to churn out quality music faster than ever before. And without needing a production studio. AI empowers artists. āLearn to use the new AI music toolsā in other words cheating. Was it cheating for artists to abandon the physical medium in favor of Photoshop? If not, then what's the fundamental difference between something like Photoshop, which artificially simulates colors, and effects that were traditionally accomplished with physical media and methods and the newer AI methods which may replace or accompany it? |
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Post by resurrection89 on Nov 12, 2024 15:42:37 GMT -5
āLearn to use the new AI music toolsā in other words cheating. Was it cheating for artists to abandon the physical medium in favor of Photoshop? If not, then what's the fundamental difference between something like Photoshop, which artificially simulates colors, and effects that were traditionally accomplished with physical media and methods? Yeah but I donāt like photoshop either. Itās false. The worst is that horrible google advert where you take a photo of say 5 people of you and you can then make all 5 smile with a click of a buttonš© how is that photo a āmemoryā? Itās a total misrepresentation of that moment. I canāt stand it. Fake nonsense |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 12, 2024 15:51:16 GMT -5
Was it cheating for artists to abandon the physical medium in favor of Photoshop? If not, then what's the fundamental difference between something like Photoshop, which artificially simulates colors, and effects that were traditionally accomplished with physical media and methods? Yeah but I donāt like photoshop either. Itās false. The worst is that horrible google advert where you take a photo of say 5 people of you and you can then make all 5 smile with a click of a buttonš© how is that photo a āmemoryā? Itās a total misrepresentation of that moment. I canāt stand it. Fake nonsense So you're heavily biased. At least you admit it. If Photoshop didn't ruin art, then why would AI?
Couldn't AI also lead to a new renaissance of creativity? People didn't stop drawing because of Photoshop. People probably won't stop making music using "traditional" methods either. It's just that some people will utilize all of the tools available at their disposal to realize their creative vision and ... some won't.
I suspect those who refuse will find themselves trailing behind.
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Post by matt on Nov 12, 2024 15:56:09 GMT -5
I understand the qualms about how these models were trained, but we're at the point where the AI output can be as good as the artists themselves. If you told me most of the AI Oasis tracks I've heard were actually written and recorded by the band in secret over the last year, I would believe it. Doesn't matter to me whether it originated as a chatGPT prompt in someone's mom's basement or from the pen of the mighty I himself. The voice model of Liam is improving all the time, but have you really heard anything that sounds like genuine Oasis? I've not heard a single one that could persuade me into thinking it was the real deal. The best I've heard is probably this one, but even then I'd only go as far in saying it could pass as a demo recorded by Beady Eye. That sounds damning, but I love Beady Eye! I just mean in the song structure, sometimes missing middle 8's or a proper chorus. If that was the Oasis comeback single, there'd be a riot. It's f*ckin awful! |
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Post by resurrection89 on Nov 12, 2024 15:58:24 GMT -5
The voice model of Liam is improving all the time, but have you really heard anything that sounds like genuine Oasis? I've not heard a single one that could persuade me into thinking it was the real deal. The best I've heard is probably this one, but even then I'd only go as far in saying it could pass as a demo recorded by Beady Eye. That sounds damning, but I love Beady Eye! I just mean in the song structure, sometimes missing middle 8's or a proper chorus. If that was the Oasis comeback single, there'd be a riot. It's f*ckin awful! Sounds like a James hargreaves b sideš |
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Post by matt on Nov 12, 2024 16:01:25 GMT -5
If that was the Oasis comeback single, there'd be a riot. It's f*ckin awful! Sounds like a James hargreaves b sideš I can at least get some laughs from a James Hargreaves tune! This is the sort of landfill indie dirges that populated the mid 2000s. Pigeon Detectives/Enemy style crap. |
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Nov 12, 2024 16:06:26 GMT -5
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Post by resurrection89 on Nov 12, 2024 16:06:26 GMT -5
Yeah but I donāt like photoshop either. Itās false. The worst is that horrible google advert where you take a photo of say 5 people of you and you can then make all 5 smile with a click of a buttonš© how is that photo a āmemoryā? Itās a total misrepresentation of that moment. I canāt stand it. Fake nonsense So you're heavily biased. At least you admit it. If Photoshop didn't ruin art, then why would AI?
Couldn't AI also lead to a new renaissance of creativity? People didn't stop drawing because of Photoshop. People probably won't stop making music using "traditional" methods either. It's just that some people will utilize all of the tools available at their disposal to realize their creative vision and ... some won't.
I suspect those who refuse will find themselves trailing behind.
Iām not a total techno phobe but I think there is a line that shouldnāt be crossed (but inevitably will be). Yes use technology when it can benefit humans but when it delves into things like creativity/art/ music etc then I donāt like it. Just because we can doesnāt mean we should. Part of the beauty of an amazing song is the story behind it eg Noel writing wonderwall for Meg, hey Jude being written about Julian Lennon being sad around Paul McCartney etc etc. whereās the intrigue behind a AI song? On the subject, Theres a very good doc about the Korean game of āGOā vs the greatest human āGOā player ever. |
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Nov 12, 2024 16:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by robg1979 on Nov 12, 2024 16:25:31 GMT -5
The voice model of Liam is improving all the time, but have you really heard anything that sounds like genuine Oasis? I've not heard a single one that could persuade me into thinking it was the real deal. The best I've heard is probably this one, but even then I'd only go as far in saying it could pass as a demo recorded by Beady Eye. That sounds damning, but I love Beady Eye! I just mean in the song structure, sometimes missing middle 8's or a proper chorus. If that was the Oasis comeback single, there'd be a riot. It's f*ckin awful! That's kind of the point though isn't it? Is there a single one that anyone can hand on heart mistake for Oasis? |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 12, 2024 16:31:06 GMT -5
So you're heavily biased. At least you admit it. If Photoshop didn't ruin art, then why would AI?
Couldn't AI also lead to a new renaissance of creativity? People didn't stop drawing because of Photoshop. People probably won't stop making music using "traditional" methods either. It's just that some people will utilize all of the tools available at their disposal to realize their creative vision and ... some won't.
I suspect those who refuse will find themselves trailing behind.
Iām not a total techno phobe but I think there is a line that shouldnāt be crossed (but inevitably will be). Yes use technology when it can benefit humans but when it delves into things like creativity/art/ music etc then I donāt like it. Just because we can doesnāt mean we should. Part of the beauty of an amazing song is the story behind it eg Noel writing wonderwall for Meg, hey Jude being written about Julian Lennon being sad around Paul McCartney etc etc. whereās the intrigue behind a AI song? On the subject, Theres a very good doc about the Korean game of āGOā vs the greatest human āGOā player ever. Fair enough. Though, I think you may misunderstand AI, or at least the current state of it.
You can go to Suno and use the software to make you lyrics and an entire song. But the result will be less than stellar without direct human meddling.
Alternatively, you can write your own lyrics, bring in your own sounds and blend them with what the AI itself can do.
So for example, if Noel has a melody in his head, writes the lyrrics and does an acoustic demo, he could theoretically upload that demo into Suno and then begin adding other layers of music to it with the AI until he achieves the vision that he had.
That doesn't change the story or minimize the motivations behind writing and making it. It's just that the process is different than the traditional way and the speed it takes to complete the song is drastically reduced.
In effect, one could argue that the emerging AI scene (for amateurs) is the sort of modern technological equivalent to 'garage rock', but with a more polished result.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 12, 2024 16:38:59 GMT -5
For example, here is a suno song I did. Not a perfect result, the AI fucks up my lyrics in a few spots. But other than that and the quality of the sound itself, which is a bit lo-fi, I am pretty satisfied with the result. The story behind it is COVID-19 and my lockdown experience. AI didn't diminish my story or motivations, in fact as someone who is not remotely musically talented, it gave me a voice to express myself in a way that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to do. It took a handful of hours to produce this. It didn't happen in five minutes. Now imagine what a competent lyricist and musician experimenting with the tech could produce.
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Post by niftium on Nov 12, 2024 16:56:05 GMT -5
If that was the Oasis comeback single, there'd be a riot. It's f*ckin awful! That's kind of the point though isn't it? Is there a single one that anyone can hand on heart mistake for Oasis? As someone else mentioned in the video's comment section, this absolutely sounds like a DOYS b-side: |
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