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Post by underneaththesky on May 25, 2024 16:57:33 GMT -5
I Will Believe studio version needs to be OUT THERE
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Post by sheisloved on May 25, 2024 17:26:42 GMT -5
I Will Believe studio version needs to be OUT THERE I agree
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Post by supertronic on May 26, 2024 5:55:34 GMT -5
While I'm slightly disappointed with the set list, the Monnow Valley artwork is beautiful. I'll probably eventually buy it just for that.
It's also nice to see that Noel was there on the day and has been involved with the project.
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on May 26, 2024 9:40:06 GMT -5
While I'm slightly disappointed with the set list, the Monnow Valley artwork is beautiful. I'll probably eventually buy it just for that. It's also nice to see that Noel was there on the day and has been involved with the project. The album clearly means a lot to him, which is not a surprise of course. The artwork images are beautiful, and black and white gives kinda nostalgic feeling. I'm not sure about the empty front cover though. I like the image but is it the right one to be the front cover.
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Post by tiger40 on May 26, 2024 12:15:17 GMT -5
I was thinking today that it doesn't seem five minutes since the 20 years release of Definitely Maybe and now here we are another ten years later with the album's thirty years release.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 26, 2024 15:24:33 GMT -5
While I'm slightly disappointed with the set list, the Monnow Valley artwork is beautiful. I'll probably eventually buy it just for that. It's also nice to see that Noel was there on the day and has been involved with the project. The album clearly means a lot to him, which is not a surprise of course. The artwork images are beautiful, and black and white gives kinda nostalgic feeling. I'm not sure about the empty front cover though. I like the image but is it the right one to be the front cover. I kinda like it. It’s like “the band might not be here anymore but the music sure is”. It’s better than just doing a negative version of it like Led Zep did. Now that’s lazy
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Post by carl80 on May 26, 2024 15:45:48 GMT -5
I was thinking today that it doesn't seem five minutes since the 20 years release of Definitely Maybe and now here we are another ten years later with the album's thirty years release. I was talking to someone about the 10 year Anniversary DVD the other day, I remember buying it as soon as it came out, not funny it’s the 30th already cause that means I’m getting older with it, ha.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 26, 2024 16:35:30 GMT -5
The album clearly means a lot to him, which is not a surprise of course. The artwork images are beautiful, and black and white gives kinda nostalgic feeling. I'm not sure about the empty front cover though. I like the image but is it the right one to be the front cover. I kinda like it. It’s like “the band might not be here anymore but the music sure is”. It’s better than just doing a negative version of it like Led Zep did. Now that’s lazy Hmmmm... didn't Jimmy Page work his nuts off remastering the records and they put out pretty much everything that was recorded for each release?
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Post by mossy on May 27, 2024 8:08:08 GMT -5
I kinda like it. It’s like “the band might not be here anymore but the music sure is”. It’s better than just doing a negative version of it like Led Zep did. Now that’s lazy Hmmmm... didn't Jimmy Page work his nuts off remastering the records and they put out pretty much everything that was recorded for each release? To be fair, they were only talking about the artwork. Seems like Jimmy’s done nothing but remaster Zep for several decades now. As frustratingly slapdash as Oasis’s reissues are, I’m glad Noel has carved out a decent solo career and not become a recluse too reliant on his past glories…
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Post by andymorris on May 27, 2024 9:08:05 GMT -5
Hmmmm... didn't Jimmy Page work his nuts off remastering the records and they put out pretty much everything that was recorded for each release? To be fair, they were only talking about the artwork. Seems like Jimmy’s done nothing but remaster Zep for several decades now. As frustratingly slapdash as Oasis’s reissues are, I’m glad Noel has carved out a decent solo career and not become a recluse too reliant on his past glories… Yeah but remastering your old material is probably a lot of fun : I know at my very little low level i always did 50 mixes on each song, and like them all. So imagine having to release a record. Must be frustrating, and kinda liberating to be able to do new mixes decades later. Noel could easily do both. Remixing a record takes what 3 weeks at most, and that's a stretch. Its not like he's that busy nowadays. This anniversary round was the good time to do it.
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Post by tiger40 on May 27, 2024 12:25:35 GMT -5
I was thinking today that it doesn't seem five minutes since the 20 years release of Definitely Maybe and now here we are another ten years later with the album's thirty years release. I was talking to someone about the 10 year Anniversary DVD the other day, I remember buying it as soon as it came out, not funny it’s the 30th already cause that means I’m getting older with it, ha. Yeah, I remember buying the 10 year anniversary DVD when it first came out, in fact I bought it on they first day of release.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 27, 2024 14:11:08 GMT -5
Hmmmm... didn't Jimmy Page work his nuts off remastering the records and they put out pretty much everything that was recorded for each release? To be fair, they were only talking about the artwork. Seems like Jimmy’s done nothing but remaster Zep for several decades now. As frustratingly slapdash as Oasis’s reissues are, I’m glad Noel has carved out a decent solo career and not become a recluse too reliant on his past glories… Oh yeah you wouldn’t have wanted Noel to stop creating. I feel like there’s a middle ground where he could have spent some more time with them.
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Post by mossy on May 27, 2024 16:22:25 GMT -5
To be fair, they were only talking about the artwork. Seems like Jimmy’s done nothing but remaster Zep for several decades now. As frustratingly slapdash as Oasis’s reissues are, I’m glad Noel has carved out a decent solo career and not become a recluse too reliant on his past glories… Yeah but remastering your old material is probably a lot of fun : I know at my very little low level i always did 50 mixes on each song, and like them all. So imagine having to release a record. Must be frustrating, and kinda liberating to be able to do new mixes decades later. Noel could easily do both. Remixing a record takes what 3 weeks at most, and that's a stretch. Its not like he's that busy nowadays. This anniversary round was the good time to do it. You and Jimmy might love tinkering with mixes, but Noel clearly doesn’t. Remix 30 year old song or sleep off Chiltern Firehouse hangover… 🤷♂️
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Post by mossy on May 27, 2024 16:41:30 GMT -5
To be fair, they were only talking about the artwork. Seems like Jimmy’s done nothing but remaster Zep for several decades now. As frustratingly slapdash as Oasis’s reissues are, I’m glad Noel has carved out a decent solo career and not become a recluse too reliant on his past glories… Oh yeah you wouldn’t have wanted Noel to stop creating. I feel like there’s a middle ground where he could have spent some more time with them. As more and more time goes by you realise how disorganised Oasis and their team were. I don’t mean it as criticism. They blew up and became mega stars when Liam was still a kid, 22-23. They and their team were clearly just unprepared for those wild mid nighties years. You can see how guitars, demo CDs and master tapes were lost or misplaced while everyone was rushing from gig to gig to studio on massive coke fuelled world tours and between house moves and divorces. Unfortunately for us they were not the type of people to be carefully organising and cataloging their material for future reissues! Roll on the anthology box sets after their next root through their sock drawers…
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on May 27, 2024 23:35:47 GMT -5
Oh yeah you wouldn’t have wanted Noel to stop creating. I feel like there’s a middle ground where he could have spent some more time with them. As more and more time goes by you realise how disorganised Oasis and their team were. I don’t mean it as criticism. They blew up and became mega stars when Liam was still a kid, 22-23. They and their team were clearly just unprepared for those wild mid nighties years. You can see how guitars, demo CDs and master tapes were lost or misplaced while everyone was rushing from gig to gig to studio on massive coke fuelled world tours and between house moves and divorces. Unfortunately for us they were not the type of people to be carefully organising and cataloging their material for future reissues! Roll on the anthology box sets after their next root through their sock drawers… Noel and Oasis management should put someone to go through all the back catalog and tapes that can be found and make a list what they have. Unreleased recordings, live gigs etc. then they would have a better idea what's available for possible releases in the future. But they won't do that.
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Post by mossy on May 28, 2024 4:01:30 GMT -5
As more and more time goes by you realise how disorganised Oasis and their team were. I don’t mean it as criticism. They blew up and became mega stars when Liam was still a kid, 22-23. They and their team were clearly just unprepared for those wild mid nighties years. You can see how guitars, demo CDs and master tapes were lost or misplaced while everyone was rushing from gig to gig to studio on massive coke fuelled world tours and between house moves and divorces. Unfortunately for us they were not the type of people to be carefully organising and cataloging their material for future reissues! Roll on the anthology box sets after their next root through their sock drawers… Noel and Oasis management should put someone to go through all the back catalog and tapes that can be found and make a list what they have. Unreleased recordings, live gigs etc. then they would have a better idea what's available for possible releases in the future. But they won't do that. I agree 100% but the problem is, some of the things will be in the band members’ personal possession. Take the Rolling Stones covers. Noel said he had the only copy. If he lost that when moving house hungover during his divorce with Meg 20+ years ago, then they’re gone for good.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 28, 2024 5:22:56 GMT -5
As more and more time goes by you realise how disorganised Oasis and their team were. I don’t mean it as criticism. They blew up and became mega stars when Liam was still a kid, 22-23. They and their team were clearly just unprepared for those wild mid nighties years. You can see how guitars, demo CDs and master tapes were lost or misplaced while everyone was rushing from gig to gig to studio on massive coke fuelled world tours and between house moves and divorces. Unfortunately for us they were not the type of people to be carefully organising and cataloging their material for future reissues! Roll on the anthology box sets after their next root through their sock drawers… Noel and Oasis management should put someone to go through all the back catalog and tapes that can be found and make a list what they have. Unreleased recordings, live gigs etc. then they would have a better idea what's available for possible releases in the future. But they won't do that. I volunteer as tribute! I would hope that this is something that has already been done but how comprehensively I'm not so sure. If some stuff is in possession of band members or other individuals this individual should be ringing round making copies.
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Post by mossy on May 28, 2024 6:18:02 GMT -5
Noel and Oasis management should put someone to go through all the back catalog and tapes that can be found and make a list what they have. Unreleased recordings, live gigs etc. then they would have a better idea what's available for possible releases in the future. But they won't do that. I volunteer as tribute! I would hope that this is something that has already been done but how comprehensively I'm not so sure. If some stuff is in possession of band members or other individuals this individual should be ringing round making copies. I think there’re a good few people on this forum who’re well qualified for this job. If only…
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Post by Bellboy on May 28, 2024 6:21:05 GMT -5
I Will Believe studio version needs to be OUT THERE Wait....Is there another version out there available?
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Post by mossy on May 28, 2024 6:45:14 GMT -5
I Will Believe studio version needs to be OUT THERE Wait....Is there another version out there available? The officially released version is live.
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Post by Bellboy on May 28, 2024 7:09:19 GMT -5
Wait....Is there another version out there available? The officially released version is live. Understood...and the other one?
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Post by mossy on May 28, 2024 7:14:41 GMT -5
The officially released version is live. Understood...and the other one? It was worked on during the Supersonic session. It’s not available, hence why people are saying it needs to be out there. Doesn’t sound particularly exciting tbh, there’s other stuff I’d rather be dug out of the vaults! Sounds like it might’ve even been erased to make space to record Supersonic anyway. Which might explain why a live version was released in the end. www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=588“We had been trying to get a decent take of I Will Believe but it was going nowhere. After numerous attempts, the energy started falling off to an all-time low. The band took a break and we moved on to do Take Me Away, which took around 30 minutes as it was all Noel on his own. One take stuff, no probs. I was really worried about the main song of the session [Bring It On Down] so I had a quiet word with Tony Griffiths and suggested that he speak to Noel and Coylie about trying something different. I thought it may be possible to just create something in the 12 hours we had left. Tony spoke to the band and Coylie and we decided to try it. It was a risk because I had no more spare tape and it would mean erasing at least one take of I Will Believe.”
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Post by tiger40 on May 28, 2024 12:22:12 GMT -5
As more and more time goes by you realise how disorganised Oasis and their team were. I don’t mean it as criticism. They blew up and became mega stars when Liam was still a kid, 22-23. They and their team were clearly just unprepared for those wild mid nighties years. You can see how guitars, demo CDs and master tapes were lost or misplaced while everyone was rushing from gig to gig to studio on massive coke fuelled world tours and between house moves and divorces. Unfortunately for us they were not the type of people to be carefully organising and cataloging their material for future reissues! Roll on the anthology box sets after their next root through their sock drawers… Noel and Oasis management should put someone to go through all the back catalog and tapes that can be found and make a list what they have. Unreleased recordings, live gigs etc. then they would have a better idea what's available for possible releases in the future. But they won't do that. Yeah, I totally agree with you there but like you say Noel and the Oasis management won't do that so I guess we'll never know for sure just what unreleased stuff they have which is a shame.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 29, 2024 12:17:25 GMT -5
Think we’d have heard about a Shakermaker re-release today if we were getting one.
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Post by jezza2 on May 29, 2024 15:42:58 GMT -5
Think we’d have heard about a Shakermaker re-release today if we were getting one. im waiting till June 1st. If we don’t hear anything by then I think we’re not getting shit for the rest of the singles.
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