Sinead O Connor Dies (Read 745 times)

[matt]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66318626

So so sad, what a voice and a talent she was. Bold, outspoken and never had a faint heart, all for the best. Had her fair share of tragedies but always bounced back, a terribly young age to die at 56 too. RIP.

[tiger40]

Yeah, I've just read that, very sad indeed. I was never a massive fan of hers but her version of Nothing Compairs To U was really good and there was another good song around 1988 time which I've always liked as well.
R.I.P. 56 is no age at all.

[The Escapist]

I grew up with Sinead's music; she's my mother's favourite artist of all time.

One time, my mum did a painting of Sinead, and then went to see her in Manchester. After the show, she managed to get to Sinead backstage, and the woman herself signed the painting - it's still a treasured thing. Her voice was rapturous and the spirit of her youth has been vindicated a thousand times. This song is gorgeous:

[carlober]

Sad, sad news - and unfortunately not unexpected

[funhouse]

There was a documentary on TV about her that I was told to watch and I said that she's the kind of artist that I'll probably only get around to once they're dead.

This was only a few days ago, so this feels pretty weird.

[Elie De Beaufour 🐴]

Died of a broken heart I think, losing her son last year.

Did she ever sue the hospital he escaped from?

[settingson]

Very sad.
A troubled soul her whole life, it seems.
The way she dealt with the booing at Bobfest '93 was scintillating.

[welshylad]

Jul 26, 2023 18:58:14 GMT -5 Elie De Beaufour 🐴 said:

Died of a broken heart I think, losing her son last year.

Exactly what I thought

[LightsOffInside]

I don't often agree with Morrissey these days, but this statement of his on Sinead O'Connor really sums it up, a powerful message -

“She had only so much ‘self’ to give. She was dropped by her label after selling 7 million albums for them. She became crazed, yes, but uninteresting, never. She had done nothing wrong. She had proud vulnerability … and there is a certain music industry hatred for singers who don’t ‘fit in’ (this I know only too well), and they are never praised until death - when, finally, they can’t answer back. The cruel playpen of fame gushes with praise for Sinead today … with the usual moronic labels of “icon” and “legend”. You praise her now ONLY because it is too late. You hadn’t the guts to support her when she was alive and she was looking for you. The press will label artists as pests because of what they withhold … and they would call Sinead sad, fat, shocking, insane … oh but not today! Music CEOs who had put on their most charming smile as they refused her for their roster are queuing-up to call her a “feminist icon”, and 15 minute celebrities and goblins from hell and record labels of artificially aroused diversity are squeezing onto Twitter to twitter their jibber-jabber … when it was YOU who talked Sinead into giving up … because she refused to be labelled, and she was degraded, as those few who move the world are always degraded. Why is ANYBODY surprised that Sinead O’Connor is dead? Who cared enough to save Judy Garland, Whitney Houston, Amy Winehouse, Marilyn Monroe, Billie Holiday? Where do you go when death can be the best outcome? Was this music madness worth Sinead’s life? No, it wasn’t. She was a challenge, and she couldn’t be boxed-up, and she had the courage to speak when everyone else stayed safely silent. She was harassed simply for being herself. Her eyes finally closed in search of a soul she could call her own. As always, the lamestreamers miss the ringing point, and with locked jaws they return to the insultingly stupid “icon” and “legend” when last week words far more cruel and dismissive would have done. Tomorrow the fawning fops flip back to their online shitposts and their cosy Cancer Culture and their moral superiority and their obituaries of parroted vomit … all of which will catch you lying on days like today … when Sinead doesn’t need your sterile slop.”

MORRISSEY
26 July, 2023.

www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/you-know-i-couldn%E2%80%99t-last-july-26-2023.151306/ 

[matt]

Jul 27, 2023 6:35:11 GMT -5 LightsOffInside said:

I don't often agree with Morrissey these days, but this statement of his on Sinead O'Connor really sums it up, a powerful message -

“She had only so much ‘self’ to give. She was dropped by her label after selling 7 million albums for them. She became crazed, yes, but uninteresting, never. She had done nothing wrong. She had proud vulnerability … and there is a certain music industry hatred for singers who don’t ‘fit in’ (this I know only too well), and they are never praised until death - when, finally, they can’t answer back. The cruel playpen of fame gushes with praise for Sinead today … with the usual moronic labels of “icon” and “legend”. You praise her now ONLY because it is too late. You hadn’t the guts to support her when she was alive and she was looking for you. The press will label artists as pests because of what they withhold … and they would call Sinead sad, fat, shocking, insane … oh but not today! Music CEOs who had put on their most charming smile as they refused her for their roster are queuing-up to call her a “feminist icon”, and 15 minute celebrities and goblins from hell and record labels of artificially aroused diversity are squeezing onto Twitter to twitter their jibber-jabber … when it was YOU who talked Sinead into giving up … because she refused to be labelled, and she was degraded, as those few who move the world are always degraded. Why is ANYBODY surprised that Sinead O’Connor is dead? Who cared enough to save Judy Garland, Whitney Houston, Amy Winehouse, Marilyn Monroe, Billie Holiday? Where do you go when death can be the best outcome? Was this music madness worth Sinead’s life? No, it wasn’t. She was a challenge, and she couldn’t be boxed-up, and she had the courage to speak when everyone else stayed safely silent. She was harassed simply for being herself. Her eyes finally closed in search of a soul she could call her own. As always, the lamestreamers miss the ringing point, and with locked jaws they return to the insultingly stupid “icon” and “legend” when last week words far more cruel and dismissive would have done. Tomorrow the fawning fops flip back to their online shitposts and their cosy Cancer Culture and their moral superiority and their obituaries of parroted vomit … all of which will catch you lying on days like today … when Sinead doesn’t need your sterile slop.”

MORRISSEY
26 July, 2023.

www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/you-know-i-couldn%E2%80%99t-last-july-26-2023.151306/ 

Pretty damning about the music industry isn’t it. Paint A Vulgar Picture makes more sense now.

[glider]

Jul 26, 2023 14:10:21 GMT -5 carlober said:

Sad, sad news - and unfortunately not unexpected

This is the worst part about it. Feel scummy to think this way but after I heard about her son last year it was a miracle to hear she was still around.

She was also poised for a comeback and began touring shortly before everything three years ago happened. Can't help but think things as a whole end differently if that never happened.

[Manualex]

Jul 27, 2023 7:59:48 GMT -5 matt said:

Jul 27, 2023 6:35:11 GMT -5 LightsOffInside said:

I don't often agree with Morrissey these days, but this statement of his on Sinead O'Connor really sums it up, a powerful message -
www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/you-know-i-couldn%E2%80%99t-last-july-26-2023.151306/ 

Pretty damning about the music industry isn’t it. Paint A Vulgar Picture makes more sense now.

Yeah, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Mean Mrs. Mustard]

Unfortunately what Morrissey says is a phenomenon that happens every time an artist dies and it annoys me every time. I caught myself thinking "wonder which hypocrites will suddenly be a fan and call her a legend" as soon as the news broke out.
By life people didn't care or call someone insane and then when they die suddenly they were great. That doesn't help anyone. They needed that support when they were alive, not now that there's no point.

I personally didn't really care for her music. My mother played one of her albums quite a lot in my youth and I never really liked it. She sang a couple of things with Peter Gabriel and sounded great on that and I recently watched a couple of interviews with her. She was quite introverted and intelligent.

[matt]

It's almost impossible to own a timeless song that's been in the public domain for a hundred years but she did just that with The Foggy Dew with The Chieftains. Best ever rendition of the song. What a voice.

[carlober]

copy&paste of Lily Allen's tweet for non-Twitter users:

It’s hard not to feel incensed when there are so many people posting about Sinead and how fearless she was, people who would never in a million years align themselves with with anybody who stood for something or had anything remotely controversial to say. It’s so spineless. If you can’t stand up for people in life don’t do it in death.

[Mean Mrs. Mustard]

Jul 30, 2023 10:59:49 GMT -5 carlober said:

copy&paste of Lily Allen's tweet for non-Twitter users:

It’s hard not to feel incensed when there are so many people posting about Sinead and how fearless she was, people who would never in a million years align themselves with with anybody who stood for something or had anything remotely controversial to say. It’s so spineless. If you can’t stand up for people in life don’t do it in death.

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. Like I said, this always happens. Also with normal people. When they're alive no one cares and when they die suddenly they're great. What's to gain? For both sides there's really nothing in it.