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Post by jezza2 on Apr 28, 2023 21:07:21 GMT -5
Lookin' like the same as the 20th anniversary with another bonus disc with the new "mislabeled" demos.
A 30th Anniversary Remaster of the original album
Unearthed demo's
A selection of random live performances/Complete gigs (Manchester Academy, King Tut's, Sheffield Arena, etc)
Not a bad concept, yeah?
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Apr 28, 2023 22:50:24 GMT -5
This reissue needs high quality studio cuts of Coming On Strong, Lock All The Doors, I Am The Walrus and Liam sung Sad Song for starters. We also need the original mix of the LP and a bag of coke from 1993. "and a bag of coke from 1993" THE WAY I CACKLED LMAOOOO Never change, man. |
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Post by theseventwenty on Apr 29, 2023 0:33:19 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones covers they recorded would be cool to hear
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Post by ajito on Apr 29, 2023 2:44:36 GMT -5
Oasis Anthology Vol. 1, it’s what we need.
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Post by andymorris on Apr 29, 2023 2:46:23 GMT -5
DM reissue needs a Beatles type of remaster. that album suffers on modern equipment, let's be honest.
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Apr 29, 2023 4:21:03 GMT -5
DM reissue needs a Beatles type of remaster. that album suffers on modern equipment, let's be honest. Do you mean spatial audio or something like that? |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Apr 29, 2023 6:36:19 GMT -5
Time for an Oasis Anthology. Quite scarely, the same amount of time has now passed for Oasis that had passed for the Beatles in the 90s.
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Post by mossy on Apr 29, 2023 9:54:28 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones covers they recorded would be cool to hear Think they were Noel solo acoustic, not full band. Some of the recently discovered sessions were acoustic, so there’s definitely hope. Can see him not wanting to put covers on an album reissue, but maybe a Magic Secrets release for RSD or a bonus 7” in the mega box set or something. The 50th anniversary mega box set that is… X |
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 29, 2023 13:06:44 GMT -5
Oasis Anthology Vol. 1, it’s what we need. I totally agree with you we do. However, whether we'll ever get one is another matter. |
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Post by frogerz on Apr 29, 2023 15:15:19 GMT -5
Surprised Noel hasn't nicked these as bonus tracks to put on Council Skies..
Hopefully there's something decent in the vaults to be released.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Apr 29, 2023 16:25:12 GMT -5
After the sawmills sessions leaked, there's literally nothing left in the vault worth dropping hundreds of dollars/pounds/euros for the 15,000th or something reissue of this album. Maybe full remastered recordings of the boardwalk performances, the King's Tuts performance in full? What else is out there from this era that justifies another "super deluxe" release? Well the Sawmills stuff wasn't the complete "session" tapes - most of it was pretty much rough and alternate mixes of what were considered the "best" takes at the time and alot of those did indeed go on to form the basis of the commercially released tracks. With access to the full session tapes I'd expect to hear lots of song breakdowns, maybe some brief jamming and studio chat between takes, perhaps even some radically different arrangements of songs, or even unheard songs that were later abandoned. |
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Post by andymorris on Apr 30, 2023 1:12:55 GMT -5
DM reissue needs a Beatles type of remaster. that album suffers on modern equipment, let's be honest. Do you mean spatial audio or something like that? I meant the recent reissues, done by the son of George Martin. He took the original tapes and reworked them completely : cleaned them, remixed the albums. It sounds amazing and doesn't betray the original work. DM and MG (and obv BHN) could benefit from such a work. |
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Post by burnageoasis on Apr 30, 2023 2:33:55 GMT -5
The original DM/MG/BHN mixes are absolutely fine and there's nothing that can be improved. It's the horrible mastering of the albums that ruins them. Only some of the early singles have a great mastering and the difference in sound is like day and night.
#Loudnesswar
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Apr 30, 2023 6:08:27 GMT -5
Do you mean spatial audio or something like that? I meant the recent reissues, done by the son of George Martin. He took the original tapes and reworked them completely : cleaned them, remixed the albums. It sounds amazing and doesn't betray the original work. DM and MG (and obv BHN) could benefit from such a work. You're right. Especially BHN remix would be great. |
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Apr 30, 2023 6:10:12 GMT -5
The original DM/MG/BHN mixes are absolutely fine and there's nothing that can be improved. It's the horrible mastering of the albums that ruins them. Only some of the early singles have a great mastering and the difference in sound is like day and night. #Loudnesswar But, remember what Noel did with DYKWIM? Remix in 2016. It's awesome in my opinion. |
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Post by andymorris on Apr 30, 2023 7:20:07 GMT -5
The original DM/MG/BHN mixes are absolutely fine and there's nothing that can be improved. It's the horrible mastering of the albums that ruins them. Only some of the early singles have a great mastering and the difference in sound is like day and night. #Loudnesswar That's what i though too about the beatles. There's always something better or different to do with remixing You're right bout part 2 though, agreed. |
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 30, 2023 12:02:36 GMT -5
The original DM/MG/BHN mixes are absolutely fine and there's nothing that can be improved. It's the horrible mastering of the albums that ruins them. Only some of the early singles have a great mastering and the difference in sound is like day and night. #Loudnesswar But, remember what Noel did with DYKWIM? Remix in 2016. It's awesome in my opinion. Agreed and it's a shame that Noel never did anything with any of the other tracks from Be Here Now. |
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Post by burnageoasis on May 1, 2023 2:23:50 GMT -5
I meant the recent reissues, done by the son of George Martin. He took the original tapes and reworked them completely : cleaned them, remixed the albums. It sounds amazing and doesn't betray the original work. That's what i though too about the beatles. There's always something better or different to do with remixing You're right bout part 2 though, agreed. I own all Beatles Super Deluxe Editions and still prefer the mono mixes made until Sgt Pepper. The White Album's mono & stereo mixes are both great and Let it be/Abbey Road didn't really need a new stereo mix. The original stereo mixes before the White Album are of course pi** poor and ruined by George Martin because he didn't understand what stereo is about. And as they're basically unlistenable on headphones (which is how a huge amount of people nowadays - especially the TikTok generation - listens to music) they had to be redone to introduce a new audience to the Beatles.
But, remember what Noel did with DYKWIM? Remix in 2016. It's awesome in my opinion. It's nice indeed but nothing I need. It's a bit of a trend in the music industry but only because people won't buy the 100th remaster anymore and new products need to be released every few years to keep the interest alive and the cash coming in. Atmos is of course something different because it simply didn't exist until a few years ago.
For me, remixing always feels a bit like tinkering with things that were done in a certain way. And if they were done fine, just leave them that way. A bit like George Lucas altering parts of the original Star Wars movies or Steven Spielberg changing ET. The Mona Lisa will always be the Mona Lisa no matter how many repaintings will be done.
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Post by andymorris on May 1, 2023 6:48:33 GMT -5
I meant the recent reissues, done by the son of George Martin. He took the original tapes and reworked them completely : cleaned them, remixed the albums. It sounds amazing and doesn't betray the original work. That's what i though too about the beatles. There's always something better or different to do with remixing You're right bout part 2 though, agreed. I own all Beatles Super Deluxe Editions and still prefer the mono mixes made until Sgt Pepper. The White Album's mono & stereo mixes are both great and Let it be/Abbey Road didn't really need a new stereo mix. The original stereo mixes before the White Album are of course pi** poor and ruined by George Martin because he didn't understand what stereo is about. And as they're basically unlistenable on headphones (which is how a huge amount of people nowadays - especially the TikTok generation - listens to music) they had to be redone to introduce a new audience to the Beatles.
But, remember what Noel did with DYKWIM? Remix in 2016. It's awesome in my opinion. It's nice indeed but nothing I need. It's a bit of a trend in the music industry but only because people won't buy the 100th remaster anymore and new products need to be released every few years to keep the interest alive and the cash coming in. Atmos is of course something different because it simply didn't exist until a few years ago. For me, remixing always feels a bit like tinkering with things that were done in a certain way. And if they were done fine, just leave them that way. A bit like George Lucas altering parts of the original Star Wars movies or Steven Spielberg changing ET. The Mona Lisa will always be the Mona Lisa no matter how many repaintings will be done.
If i understand correctly you have the 2009 reissue right ? Have you heard the ones released the last couple of years ? They are vastly different and sound just amazing. It's the like they are in the room playing those old recordings, yet weirdly enough it sill sounds like the old Beatles. Its a whole different experience. The difference is really noticeable from original recording / 2009 reissue / Giles Martin remixes. Then its a matter of taste of what you prefer. Same for the DKYWIM rework. I think it was an interesting work because Noel has always been harsh on BHN. There's some amazing tracks buried in the original mix that need to be heard, and DKYWIM rework is a proof of that. It also shows a band that evolved in their sound but didn't really take the big risk in the final mix. I'm still hoping he will remix the whole thing. It could be a huge release. A movie can be edited differently, a painting cant be repainted (though Da Vinci is known for having worked on many many different versions of the same paintings  , he is known for being the painter whose painting are never done, drawing and re-drawing again, altering his own work), and music is the only art where originals are not set in stone. I think its magical. I think its great that 70 years we can discover new sounds recorded by the Beatles, i'm not a purist in that sense simply because those recordings were done with the gear they had available at the time. If they had the technology we have now, they would probably have used it. As long as its done carefully and by people who know what they are doing, why not ? that doesnt mean the original work disappear, it means its just giving a new light on history. Not all new project work though: the Beatles "Love" is a tragedy |
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Post by jh on May 1, 2023 10:03:04 GMT -5
Since i read the italian newspaper im happy and curious of that versions, sound really interesting and I hope its not the versions its been around over the years. We deserve something better than the 2014 version Yup 2014 version was pretty meh |
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Post by jh on May 1, 2023 10:04:29 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones covers they recorded would be cool to hear Think they were Noel solo acoustic, not full band. Some of the recently discovered sessions were acoustic, so there’s definitely hope. Can see him not wanting to put covers on an album reissue, but maybe a Magic Secrets release for RSD or a bonus 7” in the mega box set or something. The 50th anniversary mega box set that is… X Rolling Stones covers?? I have only heard Street Fighting Man - would love a full on Gimme Shelter - a happy man I would be - fuck yeah |
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Post by mossy on May 1, 2023 12:20:55 GMT -5
Think they were Noel solo acoustic, not full band. Some of the recently discovered sessions were acoustic, so there’s definitely hope. Can see him not wanting to put covers on an album reissue, but maybe a Magic Secrets release for RSD or a bonus 7” in the mega box set or something. The 50th anniversary mega box set that is… X Rolling Stones covers?? I have only heard Street Fighting Man - would love a full on Gimme Shelter - a happy man I would be - fuck yeah You’re in luck if they ever get released… Noel: “Those sessions were more productive than the Monnow Valley sessions, where we recorded 'Live Forever' and four Stones covers: 'You Can't Always Get What You Want', 'Gimme Shelter', 'Jumpin' Jack Flash' and 'Brown Sugar', with me on vocals.” supernovaheights.proboards.com/thread/3544/definitely-information-threadInterestingly the wording is a bit ambiguous. Noel could mean he sang all four, or just on Brown Sugar. So there’s a chance Liam is on some of those covers! Did you ever find out more about these covers davidjay? X |
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Post by jh on May 1, 2023 12:51:12 GMT -5
Rolling Stones covers?? I have only heard Street Fighting Man - would love a full on Gimme Shelter - a happy man I would be - fuck yeah You’re in luck if they ever get released… Noel: “Those sessions were more productive than the Monnow Valley sessions, where we recorded 'Live Forever' and four Stones covers: 'You Can't Always Get What You Want', 'Gimme Shelter', 'Jumpin' Jack Flash' and 'Brown Sugar', with me on vocals.” supernovaheights.proboards.com/thread/3544/definitely-information-threadInterestingly the wording is a bit ambiguous. Noel could mean he sang all four, or just on Brown Sugar. So there’s a chance Liam is on some of those covers! Did you ever find out more about these covers davidjay? X This sounds bloody immense...ah if only!! |
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Post by bestwick8 on May 1, 2023 18:58:39 GMT -5
Wasnt there a cover of Tomorrow never knows as well ?
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Post by Manualex on May 1, 2023 19:07:40 GMT -5
Wasnt there a cover of Tomorrow never knows as well ? Noel did it with Gem on a John Lennon special where Kelly Jones and Paul Weller perform other Lennon songs |
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