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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 1, 2022 19:02:29 GMT -5
I personally think a lot of people are mourning the loss of their youth by yelling about the music they listened to when they were young. No. Just saying Noel isn’t much good. Whispering it.
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Post by theone on Nov 1, 2022 20:49:31 GMT -5
The music video is weird.
The song is meh
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Post by NYR on Nov 1, 2022 21:40:25 GMT -5
As someone who has always been a fan of artists exploring outside of their comfort zones, I dig it.
It takes chutzpah to follow your own path rather than trying to please your fans, which I respect.
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Post by Marissa on Nov 1, 2022 23:52:04 GMT -5
i really don't care for the song, the drumbeat feels cheap, the lyrics are trite. but waking up to the news that noel dropped something the other day made a shitty day a little better, regardless
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Post by Marissa on Nov 1, 2022 23:56:48 GMT -5
Good news for Noel is the wider world appears to love the song. Although doubt he cares either way : ) That’s his biggest issue. He is a lazy, entitled rich guy who thinks he’s cool. But he’s just a jerk. And I met him in 2001 and he was a total jerk. He really isn’t a good guy. At all And it shows in his music. he's always been kind to me each time i've met him i'm sorry that wasn't your experience we all know he could use a bit of humility and a lot of inner work but i don't think it shows in his music.
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Post by NicOasis on Nov 2, 2022 1:07:18 GMT -5
I personally think a lot of people are mourning the loss of their youth by yelling about the music they listened to when they were young. No. Just saying Noel isn’t much good. Whispering it. Your username doesn't help your case unfortunately
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Post by Aman on Nov 2, 2022 3:02:02 GMT -5
Don't mind the sound, catchy enough.
But a bit repetitive, doesn't go anywhere. Better than his recent stuff though.
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Post by mossy on Nov 2, 2022 3:17:44 GMT -5
I personally think a lot of people are mourning the loss of their youth by yelling about the music they listened to when they were young. I’ve often thought the opposite. It is the younger newer fans, going through their peak Liam obsessed lad phase, who are more tribal and the most vocally against what Noel is doing now. I’m sure if I was 17 now I’d be loving seeing Liam at Knebworth, would find Noel’s live act boring in comparison and would be feeling fairly nonplussed by stuff like Black Star Dancing, Blue Moon Rising and Pretty Boy. Before any youfs come at me, I’m speaking generally, just going by what I’ve seen on social media. X
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Post by carlober on Nov 2, 2022 4:11:53 GMT -5
As for the Johnny Marr part. It’s a simple arpeggio. It’s nothing any professional guitarist couldn’t do. It’s why I believe Marr is also way over rated. Like Noel, his prime is literally legendary. But also like Noel, he is no longer overly interesting. It’s ok. Artists rarely stay on their game. What most people don't understand about Marr is that his magic lies in the vibe, not in the technique. He's played (and he still plays) some very hard stuff but what he does best are the simple, melodic riffs like this one. Sure, it's just "a simple arpeggio", but you hear it and you instantly know it's him. There's something in the way he plays that makes it unique: maybe the syncopated rhythm or the lightly plucked bassy notes that fill the main jangly melody, I don't know. Another perfect example is in Ballad of the Mighty I: the little riffs, the "solo" or - even better - the outro. It's all in the way he plays, not in the notes that he actually plays.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 2, 2022 4:25:27 GMT -5
the twitter fan poll has moved into a negative direction .... Never mind, webby. Twitter is full of attention seeking weirdo who think they can do whatever they want with their dirty money and their brainless followers.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 2, 2022 4:33:15 GMT -5
I personally think a lot of people are mourning the loss of their youth by yelling about the music they listened to when they were young. I’ve often thought the opposite. It is the younger newer fans, going through their peak Liam obsessed lad phase, who are more tribal and the most vocally against what Noel is doing now. I’m sure if I was 17 now I’d be loving seeing Liam at Knebworth, would find Noel’s live act boring in comparison and would be feeling fairly nonplussed by stuff like Black Star Dancing, Blue Moon Rising and Pretty Boy. Before any youfs come at me, I’m speaking generally, just going by what I’ve seen on social media. X Those songs are just all average. Style and direction of those songs doesn't matter.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 2, 2022 4:36:26 GMT -5
the twitter fan poll has moved into a negative direction .... Never mind, webby. Twitter is full of attention seeking weirdo who think they can do whatever they want with their dirty money and their brainless followers. Or song is really "pretty meh".
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Post by tiger40 on Nov 2, 2022 5:28:59 GMT -5
I like the song much more than the likes of Blue Moon Rising (which I've never really liked much), Black Star Dancing and Holy Moon.
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Post by mossy on Nov 2, 2022 6:04:00 GMT -5
I’ve often thought the opposite. It is the younger newer fans, going through their peak Liam obsessed lad phase, who are more tribal and the most vocally against what Noel is doing now. I’m sure if I was 17 now I’d be loving seeing Liam at Knebworth, would find Noel’s live act boring in comparison and would be feeling fairly nonplussed by stuff like Black Star Dancing, Blue Moon Rising and Pretty Boy. Before any youfs come at me, I’m speaking generally, just going by what I’ve seen on social media. X Those songs are just all average. Style and direction of those songs doesn't matter. I never said otherwise. My point was, from what I’ve seen on social media, it seems to be younger fans who feel the need to froth, rave and troll about these average songs. The ones in bucket hats who’ve just been to their first Leeds festival. A general observation. X
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Post by bigmouth22 on Nov 2, 2022 6:20:50 GMT -5
The music video is weird. The song is meh Never mind Talksport or Soccer Saturday given that this is clearly a newfound interest might we see the Chief as a guest judge on Ru Paul's Drag Race? Make it happen Noel!
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Post by welshylad on Nov 2, 2022 6:36:30 GMT -5
Listened to it about 10-15 times now. Tbh it's not terrible, but I wouldn't care if I heard it ever again, and that says something
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Nov 2, 2022 7:22:43 GMT -5
As someone who has always been a fan of artists exploring outside of their comfort zones, I dig it. It takes chutzpah to follow your own path rather than trying to please your fans, which I respect. But I have to say, that outisde the comfort zone for the gallaghers is still pretty close to the stuff they did before. It's not like they changed direction or something. I know what you mean but everything changed for me after discovering King Gizzard and the lizard wizard. In some sense they destroyed some of the love I had for other bands.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 2, 2022 7:34:34 GMT -5
As someone who has always been a fan of artists exploring outside of their comfort zones, I dig it. It takes chutzpah to follow your own path rather than trying to please your fans, which I respect. But I have to say, that outisde the comfort zone for the gallaghers is still pretty close to the stuff they did before. It's not like they changed direction or something. I know what you mean but everything changed for me after discovering King Gizzard and the lizard wizard. In some sense they destroyed some of the love I had for other bands. 23 albums in 11 years, 5 this year. Respect.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Nov 2, 2022 7:51:00 GMT -5
First impression: I like the vibe and I think it's the type of sound Noel needs to have today: more varied, with a wider range of influences than in the first two albums, but still in his style. That said, sounds like a great 8/10 album track (e.g. a la WTSRTS), but not like a first single. I was expecting something with more immediate hooks After 2 days, I have to agree with myself !. As with WTSRTS, I like the vibe, I like the lyrics, and grows on me with every listen, even if it is not immediately catchy as you would expect from a 1st single. Extremely curious about the Robert Smith remix too.
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Post by durk on Nov 2, 2022 8:38:38 GMT -5
As for the Johnny Marr part. It’s a simple arpeggio. It’s nothing any professional guitarist couldn’t do. It’s why I believe Marr is also way over rated. Like Noel, his prime is literally legendary. But also like Noel, he is no longer overly interesting. It’s ok. Artists rarely stay on their game. What most people don't understand about Marr is that his magic lies in the vibe, not in the technique. He's played (and he still plays) some very hard stuff but what he does best are the simple, melodic riffs like this one. Sure, it's just "a simple arpeggio", but you hear it and you instantly know it's him. There's something in the way he plays that makes it unique: maybe the syncopated rhythm or the lightly plucked bassy notes that fill the main jangly melody, I don't know. Another perfect example is in Ballad of the Mighty I: the little riffs, the "solo" or - even better - the outro. It's all in the way he plays, not in the notes that he actually plays. spot on carlober
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Post by theone on Nov 2, 2022 9:34:37 GMT -5
The music video is weird. The song is meh Never mind Talksport or Soccer Saturday given that this is clearly a newfound interest might we see the Chief as a guest judge on Ru Paul's Drag Race? Make it happen Noel! You're baiting me. Lol. Apparently common sense is called HaTe SpEeCh now. Liberals 🤡
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Post by andymorris on Nov 2, 2022 9:49:32 GMT -5
As for the Johnny Marr part. It’s a simple arpeggio. It’s nothing any professional guitarist couldn’t do. It’s why I believe Marr is also way over rated. Like Noel, his prime is literally legendary. But also like Noel, he is no longer overly interesting. It’s ok. Artists rarely stay on their game. What most people don't understand about Marr is that his magic lies in the vibe, not in the technique. He's played (and he still plays) some very hard stuff but what he does best are the simple, melodic riffs like this one. Sure, it's just "a simple arpeggio", but you hear it and you instantly know it's him. There's something in the way he plays that makes it unique: maybe the syncopated rhythm or the lightly plucked bassy notes that fill the main jangly melody, I don't know. Another perfect example is in Ballad of the Mighty I: the little riffs, the "solo" or - even better - the outro. It's all in the way he plays, not in the notes that he actually plays. Agreed. Technique and feeling are two different qualities in music. Some have both, some have one, some none. While i dont really like Marr's style, he's got one that is very distinctive. Same applies for Noel, who was mocked for his "simple" solos, yet some are the best ever created. Most "technical" guitar players despise the "feeling" ones simply because they dont understand it. The opposite is rarely true though.
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 2, 2022 10:01:05 GMT -5
What most people don't understand about Marr is that his magic lies in the vibe, not in the technique. He's played (and he still plays) some very hard stuff but what he does best are the simple, melodic riffs like this one. Sure, it's just "a simple arpeggio", but you hear it and you instantly know it's him. There's something in the way he plays that makes it unique: maybe the syncopated rhythm or the lightly plucked bassy notes that fill the main jangly melody, I don't know. Another perfect example is in Ballad of the Mighty I: the little riffs, the "solo" or - even better - the outro. It's all in the way he plays, not in the notes that he actually plays. spot on carlober Well. This just isn’t true. This is how one explains why a basic guitar part is supposed to be special. The Smiths compositions and guitar parts were very special. Original. It wasn’t a vibe thing. It was a composition thing. Mare’s vibe is annoying guy who is always talking about the logic behind his below average songs. Then people who don’t really understand music call it genius. Because he and Noel say so. Vibe doesn’t replace great writing and creative playing. And Marr playing doesn’t elevate this song in any way. It’s a basic arpeggio which is turned up a bit in the back 1/2.
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 2, 2022 10:14:36 GMT -5
Well. This just isn’t true. This is how one explains why a basic guitar part is supposed to be special. The Smiths compositions and guitar parts were very special. Original. It wasn’t a vibe thing. It was a composition thing. Mare’s vibe is annoying guy who is always talking about the logic behind his below average songs. Then people who don’t really understand music call it genius. Because he and Noel say so. Vibe doesn’t replace great writing and creative playing. And Marr playing doesn’t elevate this song in any way. It’s a basic arpeggio which is turned up a bit in the back 1/2. From Clash Magazine: New album ‘Call The Comet’ has just been released, and the material more than matches the confidence of its creator. A broad, diverse, yet impactful release, it’s themes of sci-fi dystopia are echoed by stunning musicality that veers from neo-industrial sounds to lush chords of fragrant acoustic guitar. Lyrics from this Sci-if Dystopian album: following a new nation The days are growing up Made for, our life are moments Cover all the sky with lights The wind is painful, raging True love confusion Senses are blowing up miles high Get mixed up, get danger Let's ? the sky with lights It’s a vibe thing.
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Post by carlober on Nov 2, 2022 12:05:03 GMT -5
Well. This just isn’t true. This is how one explains why a basic guitar part is supposed to be special. The Smiths compositions and guitar parts were very special. Original. It wasn’t a vibe thing. It was a composition thing. Mare’s vibe is annoying guy who is always talking about the logic behind his below average songs. Then people who don’t really understand music call it genius. Because he and Noel say so. Vibe doesn’t replace great writing and creative playing. And Marr playing doesn’t elevate this song in any way. It’s a basic arpeggio which is turned up a bit in the back 1/2. I totally disagree but I won't waste time arguing with you. I have the impression that it's like talking to a brick wall. I've got more important things to do in my spare time, e.g. actually enjoying music and/or playing basic riffs and cowboy chords on my guitar. I'm a simple guy. The outro of There Is A Light, which is one of my favorite pieces of music ever, is an arpeggio of the song's basic chords: the magic is in the way it's played. If you like complex or elaborate guitar parts I suggest joining a '70s prog rock fan forum. Oasis' most famous song is a repetition of four basic chords that even a kid could play, maybe that's not hardcore enough for some people.
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