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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 8, 2022 16:43:36 GMT -5
Oasis really missed a trick not playing Roll It Over live.
Liam nails it, with very similar vocals to his 2000 iteration (perfect). It’s a shame Noel was personally struggling in the early 2000s, SOTSOG and HC aren’t bad with just a few b-side substitutions.
Yeah, but no…. Oasis missed a trick here.
Play it directly before or after Gas Panic live - what a smooth and cool and pertinent and salient transition that would be!
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Post by jezza2 on Jul 8, 2022 17:18:59 GMT -5
I think Oasis did miss an opportunity with Roll It Over, hell I always forget the songs exists. To me, this song is the albums Champagne Supernova and the only way I would've seen that song working is near the end of the set. If I was forced to put it on the middle, I would've replaced Stand By Me.
Roll With It-Roll It Over-Wonderwall works pretty well.
Or: Live Forever-Roll It Over-Rock 'n' Roll Star
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 8, 2022 19:09:38 GMT -5
Oh definitely and Oasis should've played it live at some point during their 2000's tours. It's a shame that they never did but I'm glad Liam is giving it a go during his solo concerts.
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Post by Manualex on Jul 8, 2022 23:58:30 GMT -5
I will be a contrarian. I voted no. Because it's a song that strains way too much on the leave me here part which is something that Liam struggled in the past. And on gas panic panic is on the... Was way too much for Liam to sing(at times using the echo effect was good, but at others it was just repeating the straining part making it more obvious).
Then repeating the same line on RIO it would be overkill. Great that he can do it nowadays, but unless it was on the early Standing on the Shoulder tour I wouldnt want to see it.
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Post by mahsteve on Jul 9, 2022 7:20:28 GMT -5
I’m not sure they missed a trick by not playing Roll It Over on the SOTSOG tour. I agree it may have been too much for Liam’s voice to sing it each night. Perhaps they could have played it sparingly on the tour or played in on TV shows and sessions ie BBC Radio 1 Maida Vale or French TV show Nulle Part Ailleurs both in Feb 2000.
I think the band missed a trick with a few other things around this time either recording the album or the tour:
Song selection on SOTSOG. Noel said in interviews at the time that he hadn’t really finished both PYMWYMI and ICSAL but still included them on the album. I’m not sure other comparable sized bands (Coldplay or U2) would ever do that! As much as Little James gets criticised, it had to be included as it was Liam’s first song and would inspire him to keep writing.
Should LAMB have been a b side?
Probably shouldn’t have released Sunday Morning Call as a single. WDIAGW was released as a single in America so they could have used that.
Full on should have been sung by Liam and considered for the album.
In January 2000 the band played a great session for BBC Radio 1 recorded at Maida Vale Studios, but surprisingly didn’t play Go Let It Out which was the single. They played RNR Star, Who Feels Love, Talk tonight, Sunday Morning Call and the Who cover My Generation. I would have taken SMC out and replaced it with GLIO as there were too many Noel sung songs. Regardless, it is a great session. Odd that they never played my generation again until 2002.
In Spring 2000 the band appeared on American tv show David Letterman, surprisingly they played I can see a liar, which wasn’t a single, not sure why they didn’t play GLIO. Maybe they thought the American audience would connect with something heavier and more rock.
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Post by axos on Jul 22, 2022 15:19:13 GMT -5
Totally. I say ‘yes’ though in the case that it’d be played the way it is on Liam’s solo shows, as the original key would’ve been a bit too tricky even on his best 2000 shows. Don’t know why when they took Champagne Supernova out the set for several months in 2000 they didn’t just replace it with this, it would’ve worked well!
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Post by capo2ndfret on Jul 5, 2023 12:41:34 GMT -5
The only "trick" they missed was not being more freugal with dropping the key for demanding Oasis songs. They should have started doing that in 1997. This would have saved Liam's voice imeasurably.
He would have only been able to nail Roll It Over in the original key during the Maide vale session. No hope of getting it at any point after that. Too high for too long.
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Post by settingson on Jul 5, 2023 20:13:47 GMT -5
Not for me. It's one of those songs that is better left in the "if only" category. There's a lot of other songs I wish they'd tried live ahead of this one. Still good to hear Liam give it a go tho
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Jul 6, 2023 2:31:11 GMT -5
I would have loved to hear it live in 2000, but as others have said, Liam probably wouldn't have been able to sing it every night. But play and sing it in a lower key at least a few times during the tour. Why not? The whole whole setlist on the SOTSOG tour was quite unsurprising and predictable. They should have played Full On too and add I Can See A Liar more often in the set. If Andy and Gem are that good players, surely they could have learned and played Roll It Over and other songs too.
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Post by jh on Jul 6, 2023 11:51:30 GMT -5
I would have loved to hear it live in 2000, but as others have said, Liam probably wouldn't have been able to sing it every night. But play and sing it in a lower key at least a few times during the tour. Why not? The whole whole setlist on the SOTSOG tour was quite unsurprising and predictable. They should have played Full On too and add I Can See A Liar more often in the set. If Andy and Gem are that good players, surely they could have learned and played Roll It Over and other songs too. Full on and I can see a liar were always tunes I liked alot then...and they still sound good now. OK 95 percent of the forum hates ICSAL but who cares!
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 6, 2023 12:41:14 GMT -5
There's a few songs which Oasis never played live and should've done though especially b.sides. Let's All Make Believe Carry Us All (I don't think that they ever played that live?) Thankyou For The Good Times Shout It Out Loud
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Post by jh on Jul 7, 2023 12:54:06 GMT -5
There's a few songs which Oasis never played live and should've done though especially b.sides. Let's All Make Believe Carry Us All (I don't think that they ever played that live?) Thankyou For The Good Times Shout It Out Loud Let's all make believe is one of my favourite Oasis songs. Unreal that wasn't played live
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 8, 2023 12:28:28 GMT -5
There's a few songs which Oasis never played live and should've done though especially b.sides. Let's All Make Believe Carry Us All (I don't think that they ever played that live?) Thankyou For The Good Times Shout It Out Loud Let's all make believe is one of my favourite Oasis songs. Unreal that wasn't played live Yeah, I agree with you and I've always loved it too. It's certainly one of Oasis's best songs from that circle.
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Post by ournoel775 on Jul 11, 2023 13:05:24 GMT -5
As others pointed out...too many other "wish they woulda" things to ascribe too much dismay to ROI not being played.
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