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Post by mancraider on Apr 18, 2022 18:01:05 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Mick Jagger never connected with the Britpop movement despite the similarities between the bands of the day and his era. While many bands contributed to the emergence of Britpop, Manchester icons Oasis were at the eye of the storm, and The Rolling Stones frontman had a particular problem with their live shows.
There wasn’t anybody more prominent than Oasis in Britain throughout the 1990s, and the gatekeepers of British rock ‘n’ roll were not willing to greet them with welcoming arms. Instead, the Gallagher brothers were regularly chastised by elder statesmen who reacted tempestuously to the acidic tongues of the Mancunians.
It wasn’t just Jagger who took offence at Oasis. The band’s ultimate heroes, The Beatles, also partook in insulting the group. George Harrison savagely quipped: “The music lacks depth, and the singer Liam is a pain, the rest of the band don’t need him”. Meanwhile, Paul McCartney added: “They’re derivative and they think too much of themselves. They mean nothing to me.”
Jagger’s complaint of Oasis was essentially to do with their live show, and the lack of movement from Liam Gallagher was a source of confusion for The Stones frontman. Jagger is a firm believer that rock ‘n’ roll has to be packaged in a certain way, and Gallagher doesn’t fit his mould. Jagger thinks a singer has to be the life and soul of a party who should be buzzing with energy throughout the concert, an objective the Oasis frontman failed to fulfil.
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In an interview with Absolute Radio in 2010, Jagger praised the success of Kings of Leon and put this down to their killer arena show which he believed was the biggest downfall of Oasis. “Well that’s what they do, they don’t move – that doesn’t mean to say they don’t connect – they do connect sometimes, sometimes they’re not always good ways,” he explained.
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Advertisement Jagger continued: “What was that famous story when they were in New York, and they didn’t think the New York audience was loud enough, and they said something like ‘You’re rubbish’ or something, ‘New York, you’re a load of crap’ or something like that – which is not what you do anywhere really, especially in New York.”
This incident wasn’t the only time Jagger directed negativity towards Oasis, and he critiqued them in the ’90s for similar reasons. “You can’t dance to it, the new album’s impossible,” he said about their third album, Be Here Now, in 1997.
Ultimately, this is a stumbling block that stopped Jagger from appreciating the work of Oasis. It’s a golden rule for him that a singer must be full of vigour, where the Manchester natives let him down.
Even though Liam Gallagher’s style didn’t get Jagger’s approval, he’s likely not bothered. Furthermore, not only did audiences find his work infectious back then, but he’s still flying high as a solo artist, and he’s made a whole new generation of teenagers once again try to emulate him.
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Post by garylineker on Apr 18, 2022 18:50:49 GMT -5
I cringe at the out of touch way the older rock stars like Jagger, Harrison and especially Mccartney talk about bands that come after. They literally know nothing about them yet give their opinion. George Harrison's one about no one listening to Oasis and U2 in 20 years must have sounded as ridiculous at the time as it does now its been proven completely untrue.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 19, 2022 1:40:32 GMT -5
MUSIC FILM TRAVEL ART PLAYLISTS MUSIC FILM TRAVEL ART PLAYLISTS Mick Jagger’s problem with Oasis(Credit: Alamy) MUSIC Mick Jagger's problem with Oasis Joe Taysom @josephtaysom SUN 17TH APR 2022 13.30 BST Surprisingly, Mick Jagger never connected with the Britpop movement despite the similarities between the bands of the day and his era. While many bands contributed to the emergence of Britpop, Manchester icons Oasis were at the eye of the storm, and The Rolling Stones frontman had a particular problem with their live shows.
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Post by darmin on Apr 19, 2022 4:17:51 GMT -5
It’s always cringe when older musicians criticize popular musicians twice younger than them It’s pity that Noel and Damon didn’t learn that from their past
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 19, 2022 4:49:40 GMT -5
I cringe at the out of touch way the older rock stars like Jagger, Harrison and especially Mccartney talk about bands that come after. They literally know nothing about them yet give their opinion. George Harrison's one about no one listening to Oasis and U2 in 20 years must have sounded as ridiculous at the time as it does now its been proven completely untrue. I have to admit im surprised to learn Paul said that as hes always seemed OK with Oasis; some very good comments about them, played live with Noel, pictured with Liam etc. I guess he came around on them in the end, after seeing they weren’t just a flash-in-the-pan. Harrison of course never did, and as much as I disagree with what he said (how Oasis should get rid of Liam, music has zero depth or staying power etc), I can’t say I’m surprised he said it, as he always seemed a tad out of touch with the times. As far as Jagger’s opinion goes, what he’s basically saying is if they aren’t his style of performing then they aren’t a good frontman. Which sounds a bit egocentric to me, but he’s entitled to his view I suppose. Still…if he has such a problem with Liam then why was he asked to open for the Stones?
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 19, 2022 5:08:17 GMT -5
It’s always cringe when older musicians criticize popular musicians twice younger than them It’s pity that Noel and Damon didn’t learn that from their past Yeah thats one area where ive admittedly favoured Liams approach in recent years. Nowadays if doesnt like something he’ll typically say “theyre not my thing” or “not rock enough for me, man” while Noel tends to say theyre automatically f****ng s**t either because theyre popular in 2022 or use co-writers. Im not saying i like contemporary pop music, but i do feel what talent is still around deserves a chance. Just like Noel and Damon got.
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Post by darmin on Apr 19, 2022 5:23:57 GMT -5
It’s always cringe when older musicians criticize popular musicians twice younger than them It’s pity that Noel and Damon didn’t learn that from their past Yeah thats one area where ive admittedly favoured Liams approach in recent years. Nowadays if doesnt like something he’ll typically say “theyre not my thing” or “not rock enough for me, man” while Noel tends to say theyre automatically f****ng s**t either because theyre popular in 2022 or use co-writers. Im not saying i like contemporary pop music, but i do feel what talent is still around deserves a chance. Just like Noel and Damon got. They usually sound out of touch and sometimes even kinda jealous when they shit on mega popular young stars.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 19, 2022 5:34:54 GMT -5
Yeah thats one area where ive admittedly favoured Liams approach in recent years. Nowadays if doesnt like something he’ll typically say “theyre not my thing” or “not rock enough for me, man” while Noel tends to say theyre automatically f****ng s**t either because theyre popular in 2022 or use co-writers. Im not saying i like contemporary pop music, but i do feel what talent is still around deserves a chance. Just like Noel and Damon got. They usually sound out of touch and sometimes even kinda jealous when they shit on mega popular young stars. Tbh the Taylor Swift episode was the first time Id heard that kind of thing from Damon but yes he did sound envious. And some of Noel’s comments have come out pretty bitter at times. Im not saying its anything too new for Noel, as hes called all sorts of pop artists of the last 20 years crap. I think its just it stands out more now that Liam has comparably quietened down. Like being pictured with Harry Styles wouldve been a total no-no for Liam about 10yrs ago. Same would maybe go for Sam Fender. But he seems fine about them these days.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Apr 19, 2022 7:30:01 GMT -5
It's a down right embarrassment watching jagger prancing about like a fanny at nigh on 80yrs old
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 19, 2022 13:24:17 GMT -5
It's a down right embarrassment watching jagger prancing about like a fanny at nigh on 80yrs old Agreed.
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 19, 2022 13:27:03 GMT -5
I cringe at the out of touch way the older rock stars like Jagger, Harrison and especially Mccartney talk about bands that come after. They literally know nothing about them yet give their opinion. George Harrison's one about no one listening to Oasis and U2 in 20 years must have sounded as ridiculous at the time as it does now its been proven completely untrue. I have to admit im surprised to learn Paul said that as hes always seemed OK with Oasis; some very good comments about them, played live with Noel, pictured with Liam etc. I guess he came around on them in the end, after seeing they weren’t just a flash-in-the-pan. Harrison of course never did, and as much as I disagree with what he said (how Oasis should get rid of Liam, music has zero depth or staying power etc), I can’t say I’m surprised he said it, as he always seemed a tad out of touch with the times. As far as Jagger’s opinion goes, what he’s basically saying is if they aren’t his style of performing then they aren’t a good frontman. Which sounds a bit egocentric to me, but he’s entitled to his view I suppose. Still…if he has such a problem with Liam then why was he asked to open for the Stones? Yeah, I agree with you about Jaggers opinion on Liam and like you say if he had such a problem with Liam then why was he asked to open for the Stones.
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Post by mancraider on Apr 19, 2022 13:57:37 GMT -5
I have to admit im surprised to learn Paul said that as hes always seemed OK with Oasis; some very good comments about them, played live with Noel, pictured with Liam etc. I guess he came around on them in the end, after seeing they weren’t just a flash-in-the-pan. Harrison of course never did, and as much as I disagree with what he said (how Oasis should get rid of Liam, music has zero depth or staying power etc), I can’t say I’m surprised he said it, as he always seemed a tad out of touch with the times. As far as Jagger’s opinion goes, what he’s basically saying is if they aren’t his style of performing then they aren’t a good frontman. Which sounds a bit egocentric to me, but he’s entitled to his view I suppose. Still…if he has such a problem with Liam then why was he asked to open for the Stones? Yeah, I agree with you about Jaggers opinion on Liam and like you say if he had such a problem with Liam then why was he asked to open for the Stones. Keith probably asked him to piss of Mick lol. Thats why he was grinning like a maniac when they got there picture taken 🤣🤣
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 19, 2022 14:54:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with you about Jaggers opinion on Liam and like you say if he had such a problem with Liam then why was he asked to open for the Stones. Keith probably asked him to piss of Mick lol. Thats why he was grinning like a maniac when they got there picture taken 🤣🤣
The article states that the quotes from Mick are from 2010 so undoubtedly just his rambling in a moment when Oasis was an easy target and nearly a decade later he was quite happy for the Stones to have a resurgent Liam's name attached to their tour.
I'll never understand why writers take jobs where they pull quotes from long ago and try to pass them off as newsworthy. What a way to spend your writing life ....
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Post by mancraider on Apr 19, 2022 15:49:22 GMT -5
Keith probably asked him to piss of Mick lol. Thats why he was grinning like a maniac when they got there picture taken 🤣🤣
The article states that the quotes from Mick are from 2010 so undoubtedly just his rambling in a moment when Oasis was an easy target and nearly a decade later he was quite happy for the Stones to have a resurgent Liam's name attached to their tour.
I'll never understand why writers take jobs where they pull quotes from long ago and try to pass them off as newsworthy. What a way to spend your writing life ....
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 20, 2022 13:34:25 GMT -5
Keith probably asked him to piss of Mick lol. Thats why he was grinning like a maniac when they got there picture taken 🤣🤣
The article states that the quotes from Mick are from 2010 so undoubtedly just his rambling in a moment when Oasis was an easy target and nearly a decade later he was quite happy for the Stones to have a resurgent Liam's name attached to their tour.
I'll never understand why writers take jobs where they pull quotes from long ago and try to pass them off as newsworthy. What a way to spend your writing life ....
Did he? I didn't see that.
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Post by walterglass on Apr 20, 2022 19:44:35 GMT -5
I love Mick. I love The Stones. But, you know…fuck ‘em.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Apr 21, 2022 2:17:18 GMT -5
The thing that attracts me so much about Liam is just the talent of standing still and giving off a crazy energy. Only he succeeds and this is what makes Liam Gallagher unique, and one of the greatest frontmen in history.
I would never want Liam to move like Mick ...
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Post by darmin on Apr 23, 2022 3:12:36 GMT -5
You know what? I was wrong, bring back bullying of younger musicians by old ones
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Post by matt on Apr 23, 2022 16:08:30 GMT -5
A fan of Machine Gun Kelly? Always knew there was something suspicious about Jagger and that confirms it.
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 28, 2022 3:59:58 GMT -5
🤣
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 28, 2022 4:02:04 GMT -5
I'd rather be dead if Machine Gun Kelly is bringing life 🤣
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 28, 2022 5:09:37 GMT -5
Machine Gun Kelly went from being the Machine Gun Kelly of rap music to the Machine Gun Kelly of rock music.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Apr 28, 2022 5:13:53 GMT -5
MUSIC FILM TRAVEL ART PLAYLISTS MUSIC FILM TRAVEL ART PLAYLISTS Mick Jagger’s problem with Oasis(Credit: Alamy) MUSIC Mick Jagger's problem with Oasis Joe Taysom @josephtaysom SUN 17TH APR 2022 13.30 BST Surprisingly, Mick Jagger never connected with the Britpop movement despite the similarities between the bands of the day and his era. While many bands contributed to the emergence of Britpop, Manchester icons Oasis were at the eye of the storm, and The Rolling Stones frontman had a particular problem with their live shows.
Hahahaha
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 28, 2022 13:36:36 GMT -5
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