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Post by papierklemmen on Feb 9, 2022 4:54:28 GMT -5
Liam has plenty of young fans. Not sure they’re the same ones who listen to KSI or Anne Marie but Sam Fender and Wolf Alice fans might know a Gallagher. Who cares anyway.
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Post by oasisserbia on Feb 9, 2022 5:05:00 GMT -5
It's 2022 and who gives a shit anymore.
Journalist job is already demystified long time ago. There are maybe 0.01 of them who really know their job and that can do something that average person can't.
Fucking Guardian journalist commenting Brits? Value of that article is equal to value of average post here.
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 9, 2022 5:10:55 GMT -5
You do realise he only wore that hat because his hair looked like shit Long time no see, don. Anything new to add?
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Post by aesthetic on Feb 9, 2022 5:20:00 GMT -5
Absolutely dreadful in every conceivable way.
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Post by Stemot on Feb 9, 2022 5:27:05 GMT -5
I enjoyed it but what do I know, I'm not a 50 year old wannabe roadie with voice coaching experience and sound mixing expertise like everyone here.
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Post by jorgendif on Feb 9, 2022 5:27:14 GMT -5
Absolutely dreadful in every conceivable way. What?
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Post by jabba69 on Feb 9, 2022 6:18:58 GMT -5
I enjoyed it but what do I know, I'm not a 50 year old wannabe roadie with voice coaching experience and sound mixing expertise like everyone here. This. 🤣👍
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Post by yogurt on Feb 9, 2022 6:20:29 GMT -5
I enjoyed it but what do I know, I'm not a 50 year old wannabe roadie with voice coaching experience and sound mixing expertise like everyone here. Well I didn’t mind It myself I just think it’s poor when Someone who sings for a living essentially struggles half the time to sing their songs and it becomes a massive talking point. It should be the absolute minimum requirement that a singer can actually hit the notes of their songs and not be really flat, So much so that it shouldn’t really even be a conversation. His vocals on his albums are audibly pitch corrected, which is fine, that’s industry standard today to a point, but they must know in the studio that some of the songs are just a real stretch for him at this point, so why not transpose them to a key where he can sing more comfortably. It’s something I’ll never really understand.
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Post by rockrevival on Feb 9, 2022 6:50:44 GMT -5
I enjoyed it but what do I know, I'm not a 50 year old wannabe roadie with voice coaching experience and sound mixing expertise like everyone here. Well I didn’t mind It myself I just think it’s poor when Someone who sings for a living essentially struggles half the time to sing their songs and it becomes a massive talking point. It should be the absolute minimum requirement that a singer can actually hit the notes of their songs and not be really flat, So much so that it shouldn’t really even be a conversation. His vocals on his albums are audibly pitch corrected, which is fine, that’s industry standard today to a point, but they must know in the studio that some of the songs are just a real stretch for him at this point, so why not transpose them to a key where he can sing more comfortably. It’s something I’ll never really understand. ^This He had some brilliant moments these past few years. Last night's performance was not one of them.
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Post by papierklemmen on Feb 9, 2022 7:04:16 GMT -5
I mean, I caught a few performances before I went to bed but some of them were also not the greatest. That Anne Marie chick was pretty out of tune and I assume she also sings for a living. This place is like a kpop fandom sometimes, I swear.
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Post by spud on Feb 9, 2022 7:10:23 GMT -5
Really like this rendition of it:
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Post by spud on Feb 9, 2022 7:12:29 GMT -5
I enjoyed it but what do I know, I'm not a 50 year old wannabe roadie with voice coaching experience and sound mixing expertise like everyone here. You don't need to be a voice coach or a sound engineer to know when something's out of tune.
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Post by asyouwere on Feb 9, 2022 7:12:38 GMT -5
And c'mon, I'll root for Liam anytime but this wasn't good. Even the parts he should nail were off key and just not shitty. It was a great performance.. loved it. I think you guys have lost your minds.... if you think this was bad what the hell did you guys say around 2018.. he couldn't even hold a note then.. he is belting it and sounding great at the moment.. I just think he's able to do a lot better on some parts, recent performances in mind. Especially after a period of rest. This is nowhere near his sept 2021 gigs.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Feb 9, 2022 7:20:10 GMT -5
You should know that despite the health problems he has he still manages to sing excellently at many points on the tour. if you take for example Dua Lipa, or Billy Idol, or Chris Martin or many other stars when they sing live, in 60-70% of cases no one can keep a good pitch. They all go out of tune. Even with Noel on the last few tours there have been times when he was very fatigued, and out of tune. So it also happens to those who use the technique compared to Liam and to those who do not have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.
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Post by shadowplay on Feb 9, 2022 7:25:27 GMT -5
If you only write songs that are comfortably in Liam's range you'll get DGSS pt2. I'd much rather have a brighter set of songs with more variation vocally that he struggles with live than a set of songs that never really hit the heights they should. When you're at the gig it doesn't matter anyway, I can live with the odd ropey tv performances
Some of his better solo songs like WoG/Come Back To Me and The River just wouldn't sound as good if they were in a lower key, the team he works with know what they're doing.
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Post by mancraider on Feb 9, 2022 7:32:26 GMT -5
Liam sums it up
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Post by yogurt on Feb 9, 2022 7:32:53 GMT -5
You should know that despite the health problems he has he still manages to sing excellently at many points on the tour. if you take for example Dua Lipa, or Billy Idol, or Chris Martin or many other stars when they sing live, in 60-70% of cases no one can keep a good pitch. They all go out of tune. Even with Noel on the last few tours there have been times when he was very fatigued, and out of tune. So it also happens to those who use the technique compared to Liam and to those who do not have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Nonsense. Anyway I can’t really stand most of Coldplay’s music, but as a live singer with the ability to perform their own songs without a huge struggle, Chris Martin is way more consistent than Liam. I just think it’s sad when people have to constantly make excuses for a singer who can’t even sing their own songs properly. Nobody is expecting any singer to be perfectly in tune to the exact cent, but there’s a difference between drifting off pitch sometimes and a real struggle to sing large parts of songs. Those you mentioned fall into the former category, Liam falls into the latter category.
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Post by leron on Feb 9, 2022 7:34:13 GMT -5
If you only write songs that are comfortably in Liam's range you'll get DGSS pt2. How? This doesn't make sense at all
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Post by norkbauer on Feb 9, 2022 7:37:27 GMT -5
Superb performance from Liam and his band. I'm very satisfied that Jay didn't make any mistakes on that guitar solos, thanks God.
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Post by yogurt on Feb 9, 2022 7:40:43 GMT -5
If you only write songs that are comfortably in Liam's range you'll get DGSS pt2. I'd much rather have a brighter set of songs with more variation vocally that he struggles with live than a set of songs that never really hit the heights they should. When you're at the gig it doesn't matter anyway, I can live with the odd ropey tv performances Some of his better solo songs like WoG/Come Back To Me and The River just wouldn't sound as good if they were in a lower key, the team he works with know what they're doing. That’s such a nonsense because there’s a difference between stylistic choices when it comes to arrangements and songwriting and a difference between the inability to actually sing something. You can still sing things in your comfort zone but still have more interesting songs and arrangements. DGSS was generic because of the songs, nothing else. So for example, if he has a good song that’s in the key of E and struggling to sing it, he could drop it down to the key of D where you still only havethe same amount of notes available in that key, it will just be in a key that is more comfortable to sing. it won’t automatically turn an interesting song to a generic song. it will take a good song, lower the key slightly and make it easier to sing and it’ll still be a good song. anybody understands music knows that Going by your theory, if he has a song that might stylistically be interesting, as soon as you drop it down into a key that he can actually sing it, it will turn into different gear still speeding, which is just ridiculous I think you’re just completely missing the point that everybody who is a singer has a limited vocal range, it’s just some are more extensive than others, but everybody has a limit in the end. As it stands, Liam is recording songs that are seemingly be out of his vocal range to perform live properly. It’s nothing to do with style of song, it’s physical capabilities.
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Post by papierklemmen on Feb 9, 2022 7:44:20 GMT -5
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Post by chamu on Feb 9, 2022 7:46:20 GMT -5
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Post by papierklemmen on Feb 9, 2022 7:53:32 GMT -5
Y'all bullied him into being insecure
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Post by daviesh on Feb 9, 2022 7:57:38 GMT -5
Liam is being surprisingly humble about his performance and very honest (as ever).
I think he sums it up well, it was alright but could have been a lot better and so feels a little like a missed opportunity. It must be difficult with all the over circus going on and nervous and nonsense to deliver a 10/10.
However you have got to take risks some times to give yourself the opportunity to take, and Liam, to his credit has proven he is willing to take risks.
Didn't pull it off to the maximum this time, but maybe next time he will.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Feb 9, 2022 8:28:20 GMT -5
You should know that despite the health problems he has he still manages to sing excellently at many points on the tour. if you take for example Dua Lipa, or Billy Idol, or Chris Martin or many other stars when they sing live, in 60-70% of cases no one can keep a good pitch. They all go out of tune. Even with Noel on the last few tours there have been times when he was very fatigued, and out of tune. So it also happens to those who use the technique compared to Liam and to those who do not have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Nonsense. Anyway I can’t really stand most of Coldplay’s music, but as a live singer with the ability to perform their own songs without a huge struggle, Chris Martin is way more consistent than Liam. I just think it’s sad when people have to constantly make excuses for a singer who can’t even sing their own songs properly. Nobody is expecting any singer to be perfectly in tune to the exact cent, but there’s a difference between drifting off pitch sometimes and a real struggle to sing large parts of songs. Those you mentioned fall into the former category, Liam falls into the latter category. Chris Martin once gave a disastrous performance of Paradise during a television broadcast in Italy
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