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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 7, 2022 16:20:20 GMT -5
Dude………………you are the one bringing up Noel in this thread topic. Not me. I’m here to talk Kasabian and major concerns in the post Tom era. This shitting on Noel topic over his MOON era now not spilt into multiple thread topics started by you over the last few days. A band losing their frontman, their identity, their fire is a major deal man. It doesn’t help that the new singles haven’t been that well received either. I have doubts long term. It’s all speculation. I brought it up because in another thread we spoke about Noel because i said he's on the decline in ticket sales massively from when he started out. You pointed towards his 3 number 1's as a measure of his success. Yet this band in your view is "finished" and on the decline since 2008 despite every single album going to number 1 and them now moving onto arenas without Tom. They are anything but finished. By the way you judge apparent success and the way everybody else does. You do know you can play arenas and not have them full right? I’ve seen it plenty of times in person. Oasis in 1998 in America. Arcade Fire in 2017. You gotta pack the place first, then talk. Maybe they will. Maybe they won’t. |
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Post by garylineker on Jun 7, 2022 16:38:29 GMT -5
I brought it up because in another thread we spoke about Noel because i said he's on the decline in ticket sales massively from when he started out. You pointed towards his 3 number 1's as a measure of his success. Yet this band in your view is "finished" and on the decline since 2008 despite every single album going to number 1 and them now moving onto arenas without Tom. They are anything but finished. By the way you judge apparent success and the way everybody else does. You do know you can play arenas and not have them full right? I’ve seen it plenty of times in person. Oasis in 1998 in America. Arcade Fire in 2017. You gotta pack the place first, then talk. Maybe they will. Maybe they won’t. When you book arenas that soon after a smaller tour sold out in minutes it's because the label have seen how much demand there is (bit like 2012 Noel). No way will Kasabian play to half empty arenas in the UK. Every gig will sell out or be virtually sold out. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 7, 2022 16:46:18 GMT -5
You do know you can play arenas and not have them full right? I’ve seen it plenty of times in person. Oasis in 1998 in America. Arcade Fire in 2017. You gotta pack the place first, then talk. Maybe they will. Maybe they won’t. When you book arenas that soon after a smaller tour sold out in minutes it's because the label have seen how much demand there is (bit like 2012 Noel). No way will Kasabian play to half empty arenas in the UK. Every gig will sell out or be virtually sold out. Only time will tell. I was only giving my opinion that the band feels like it’s probably over despite Serge’s best efforts. |
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jun 8, 2022 5:54:19 GMT -5
Chemicals is a fucking tune
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 19, 2022 15:29:05 GMT -5
I find it very unsettling how many people are on here slating Tom for the domestic abuse yet still talk about Liam as though he is a Demi-God.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 19, 2022 17:48:03 GMT -5
I find it very unsettling how many people are on here slating Tom for the domestic abuse yet still talk about Liam as though he is a Demi-God. Has Liam beaten the shit out his wife (multiple times) in front of their kids? Then get arrested and sit the night in jail? Let’s us not drag Liam into this on any level. What happened with Tom and his family is sad. I hope he’s in a better place. Seems like it but who really knows behind closed doors. |
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Post by norkbauer on Jun 20, 2022 21:54:34 GMT -5
After the good reception they're getting from their recent gigs (not only Knebworth but Isle of Wight too) and also from their new tracks, I decided to "try again" and I'm finally gettin' into these new era of Kasabian. It's probably their weakest material but it's fine. Tom will always be missed and there is no way of not thinking on him singing these tunes. ALYGATYR continue as my fav one and CHEMICALS is really growing on me, nice chorus and a very catchy melody. SCRIPTVRE isn't that bad, reminds me of some stuff like explodes and Sixteen Blocks (which I love both).
"Whatever don't kill you makes you stronger"
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Post by tezza198 on Jun 24, 2022 19:11:24 GMT -5
This is just my opinion but I think Kasabian gigs going forward will always be great whether it’s Tom or Serge fronting the band and I don’t know if I’m alone here but I think Kasabian’s new material is utter garage. Whereas Tom’s music is incredible - why such a big difference?
I know Tom has songwriters helping out while Kasabian are now more or less being lead by Serge in the song writing department who clearly has a type of genre he likes who I don’t like.
Anyone know when Tom’s album may be out?
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 13, 2022 2:56:05 GMT -5
Ok album
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Post by bigmouth22 on Aug 13, 2022 8:32:23 GMT -5
Serge and Tom were like a moden day Mick and Keef-sad that it came to what it did.Tom always seemed like a top fella and easily best frontman in last cuple decades.Admittedly the competition is fairly pitiful.Charges were dissapointing say the least-it seem's he's learned his lesson and they've put it behind them.
That said is a new album really nesssary from either party? Practically every Kasabian single has been a banger(if you like that sorta thing)but I've been underwhelmed by every one of their albums.They're always split 50/50 between the great and filler.
And even live it's got a bit boring the treadmill of Kasabian/Muse/ Kings of Leon etc headlining festivals year in year out.For whatever reasons new bands have not been able to get to this level-Blossom's,The 1975-dont make me laugh...
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Post by MacaRonic on Aug 13, 2022 10:16:00 GMT -5
Tom … easily best frontman in last cuple decades. 🤣 |
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Post by jh on Aug 13, 2022 11:08:57 GMT -5
This is just my opinion but I think Kasabian gigs going forward will always be great whether it’s Tom or Serge fronting the band and I don’t know if I’m alone here but I think Kasabian’s new material is utter garage. Whereas Tom’s music is incredible - why such a big difference? I know Tom has songwriters helping out while Kasabian are now more or less being lead by Serge in the song writing department who clearly has a type of genre he likes who I don’t like. Anyone know when Tom’s album may be out? Yes any ideas in Tom's solo album? This SLP volume 2...sorry new kasabian album is ok in its own right..but cmon...Empire easily Kasabians best vs New album...there like two utterly utterly different bands - the only similarity being the name- feels like Serge had to contractually keep the banana splits on but did the album in his studio on his pc. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 13, 2022 17:53:11 GMT -5
Very uneven album. Tom is certainly missed with his strong vocals.
Alchemist - An ok opener. Wish it was a tad longer. Ends just as it gets interesting.
Scriptvre - Some cool sounds but average overall.
Rocket Fuel - These are the types of songs I skip for all bands.
Strictly Old School - See above.
Alygator - An ok electronic single. Feels like a song from 7-8 years ago.
The Wall - Definitely one of the strongest songs on the LP. Feels more solo Serge like material.
TUE - Some cool soundscapes going on but the last 2 min is the best part. Dark side of the moon feel with Gilmour guitar work.
Stargzr - This reminded me so much of their debut album with all the cool keyboards and synths.
Chemicals - Another album highlight but again sounds like solo Serge.
Letting Go - The gentle comedown. Def more good than bad.
I also liked the two short instrumentals. Wish they were longer and more developed.
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Post by frogerz on Aug 15, 2022 10:30:38 GMT -5
Had zero expectations but I really like Chemicals & letting go.
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Post by crownie on Aug 16, 2022 10:09:24 GMT -5
I like the new album, builds up nicely to a strong second half.
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Post by jh on Aug 16, 2022 15:16:32 GMT -5
Very uneven album. Tom is certainly missed with his strong vocals. Alchemist - An ok opener. Wish it was a tad longer. Ends just as it gets interesting. Scriptvre - Some cool sounds but average overall. Rocket Fuel - These are the types of songs I skip for all bands. Strictly Old School - See above. Alygator - An ok electronic single. Feels like a song from 7-8 years ago. The Wall - Definitely one of the strongest songs on the LP. Feels more solo Serge like material. TUE - Some cool soundscapes going on but the last 2 min is the best part. Dark side of the moon feel with Gilmour guitar work. Stargzr - This reminded me so much of their debut album with all the cool keyboards and synths. Chemicals - Another album highlight but again sounds like solo Serge. Letting Go - The gentle comedown. Def more good than bad. I also liked the two short instrumentals. Wish they were longer and more developed. Yep it's SLP volume 2. Tom appears to have a new single out and day...like all his solo stuff so far |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 16, 2022 17:53:45 GMT -5
Very uneven album. Tom is certainly missed with his strong vocals. Alchemist - An ok opener. Wish it was a tad longer. Ends just as it gets interesting. Scriptvre - Some cool sounds but average overall. Rocket Fuel - These are the types of songs I skip for all bands. Strictly Old School - See above. Alygator - An ok electronic single. Feels like a song from 7-8 years ago. The Wall - Definitely one of the strongest songs on the LP. Feels more solo Serge like material. TUE - Some cool soundscapes going on but the last 2 min is the best part. Dark side of the moon feel with Gilmour guitar work. Stargzr - This reminded me so much of their debut album with all the cool keyboards and synths. Chemicals - Another album highlight but again sounds like solo Serge. Letting Go - The gentle comedown. Def more good than bad. I also liked the two short instrumentals. Wish they were longer and more developed. Yep it's SLP volume 2. Tom appears to have a new single out and day...like all his solo stuff so far Tom’s stuff has been hit or Miss for me. I liked his debut solo track “would you mind?” and “Icarus” but the rest was generic rock cliche type music. I’ll check out the proper album though. |
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Post by norkbauer on Aug 16, 2022 19:58:19 GMT -5
The new album is decent, better than what I was expecting, probably almost on the same level as 48:13 and FCOL. Chemicals, The Ultraview Effect and Alygatyr are my highlights. Opening and closing tracks are good too. Rocket Fuel the weakest by far.
Tom will always be missed, but it's totally understandable why the band moved on without him.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Aug 16, 2022 21:26:08 GMT -5
3:47
"The king is not dead. The king is fucking back"
I don't think so. What a bellend.
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 26, 2022 5:08:05 GMT -5
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Post by tezza198 on Oct 1, 2022 6:08:02 GMT -5
I think every song Tom’s released so far has been great, it’s shaping up to be an extremely good album.
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Post by matt on Oct 1, 2022 6:40:05 GMT -5
3:47 "The king is not dead. The king is fucking back" I don't think so. What a bellend. Surely he's the biggest of bellends in the music industry. Makes Kanye West look humble (at least he has talent). |
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Post by tezza198 on Nov 30, 2022 2:51:08 GMT -5
Did anyone buy Tom’s recent CD EP?
I’m loving the new music but strange to release a CD EP in this day and age, thought digital download + vinyl would attract more.
Another thing I find strange is that he’s released like 7-8 songs now once that CD comes out, that’s almost his entire album, yet there’s no proper album release date…very odd
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 30, 2022 10:03:06 GMT -5
Did anyone buy Tom’s recent CD EP? I’m loving the new music but strange to release a CD EP in this day and age, thought digital download + vinyl would attract more. Another thing I find strange is that he’s released like 7-8 songs now once that CD comes out, that’s almost his entire album, yet there’s no proper album release date…very odd He did a horrendous act. He’s got major damage control to work on continuously. It seems like he’s operating on the fringes of the music industry. Plus he was always a singer. Not a songwriter. That always a stumbling block. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Dec 1, 2022 3:42:55 GMT -5
The bar is set quite low because all Tom has to do is match the quality of Kasabian’s music. So far he’s succeeding in that but in all fairness that isn’t saying much.
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