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Post by matt on Mar 4, 2022 20:14:06 GMT -5
The new album's not in the top 60 in the UK charts - for context, three Oasis album are.
It's a failure is it not? They've still got the knack for a single, but if this was the major statement after the 'obscure' release of Everyday Life, it really hasn't delivered.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 4, 2022 20:22:45 GMT -5
I'm the biggest Coldplay fan you'll ever meet and it completely dropped out of my rotation after a week.
Very undercooked. I said it before - most of the songs are enjoyable in isolation, but they all feel like the smaller tracks in an album of more baked-through songs. The Reign of Loves, the Green Eyes, the Oceans. The tracks that are good, enjoyable, nice, but clearly work as shading to the full form of the bigger tracks, except here those bigger tracks don't exist. It's an album comprised almost entirely of shading, with nothing sketched out clearly in the haze. And People of the Pride is genuinely the worst thing they've ever done. But like I said in the build-up, Coldplay owe me nothing at this point, their career has been fantastic and contains some of my favourite music, I'm happy to just pick out the tunes I love and let them go and take their kids to Disneyworld with Jay-Z in the meantime.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 4, 2022 20:52:03 GMT -5
The new album's not in the top 60 in the UK charts - for context, three Oasis album are. It's a failure is it not? They've still got the knack for a single, but if this was the major statement after the 'obscure' release of Everyday Life, it really hasn't delivered. I loved the fast paced energy of Everyday Life. Once those mysterious postcards went out we had the album in like a month. I dug the less in your face style of promotion too. Coldplay can tend to slam shit down your throats. No better example of Spheres. 5-6 months of endless plugging and then a whiff of an album on release. I only listen to Higher Power and Colortura. Mostly just the latter. I think they gave up on that fake galaxy theme too. Haven’t seen them mention it in a long time after first pushing the concept. I certainly don’t need 2 more volumes of that theme. Just make good music. That’s all.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 4, 2022 20:55:04 GMT -5
I'm the biggest Coldplay fan you'll ever meet and it completely dropped out of my rotation after a week. Very undercooked. I said it before - most of the songs are enjoyable in isolation, but they all feel like the smaller tracks in an album of more baked-through songs. The Reign of Loves, the Green Eyes, the Oceans. The tracks that are good, enjoyable, nice, but clearly work as shading to the full form of the bigger tracks, except here those bigger tracks don't exist. It's an album comprised almost entirely of shading, with nothing sketched out clearly in the haze. And People of the Pride is genuinely the worst thing they've ever done. But like I said in the build-up, Coldplay owe me nothing at this point, their career has been fantastic and contains some of my favourite music, I'm happy to just pick out the tunes I love and let them go and take their kids to Disneyworld with Jay-Z in the meantime. I think I’m now in this stage sadly. Take the best of each LP released and bin the remainder. I’m sure their world tour will be a huge fucking seller but it’s alarming how fast their albums and singles sink these days if not backed by some huge collaboration.
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Post by glider on Mar 4, 2022 21:56:43 GMT -5
Was their last major hit single as solely a band 'Paradise'? Cause that was almost 11 years ago. Since then their hit singles have been with:
The late Avicii Beyonce The Chainsmokers BTS
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 5, 2022 10:16:50 GMT -5
Was their last major hit single as solely a band 'Paradise'? Cause that was almost 11 years ago. Since then their hit singles have been with: The late Avicii Beyonce The Chainsmokers BTS Adventure of a Lifetime was a big hit. Also don't think it's that fair to count producers - A Sky Full of Stars would have been a hit without Avicii too, although maybe not as all-conquering. And really, what other bands have had consistent hits anywhere near that level in the last decade, anyway? Coldplay continuing to even be part of that kind of conversation as a guitar band from the 2000's is impressive: no-one is wondering when Star Sailor's last smash single was, for instance. You'd have to explain who Athlete were before they could get a collaboration with a pop icon. But of course, Coldplay are nowhere near as big as they were for that, say, 2003-2013 run. Which is fine, there are no music artists that stay on top forever. They're still one of the most streamed groups, still gonna max out anywhere they go, and they have that loyal fanbase like U2 or The Rolling Stones which means they can just tour and print success at any point for the rest of their lives. I'm just hoping their final run focuses on the art-pop, full band sound that suits them best. More of this, please:
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Post by glider on Mar 5, 2022 13:21:23 GMT -5
Was their last major hit single as solely a band 'Paradise'? Cause that was almost 11 years ago. Since then their hit singles have been with: The late Avicii Beyonce The Chainsmokers BTS Adventure of a Lifetime was a big hit. Also don't think it's that fair to count producers - A Sky Full of Stars would have been a hit without Avicii too, although maybe not as all-conquering. And really, what other bands have had consistent hits anywhere near that level in the last decade, anyway? Coldplay continuing to even be part of that kind of conversation as a guitar band from the 2000's is impressive: no-one is wondering when Star Sailor's last smash single was, for instance. You'd have to explain who Athlete were before they could get a collaboration with a pop icon. But of course, Coldplay are nowhere near as big as they were for that, say, 2003-2013 run. Which is fine, there are no music artists that stay on top forever. They're still one of the most streamed groups, still gonna max out anywhere they go, and they have that loyal fanbase like U2 or The Rolling Stones which means they can just tour and print success at any point for the rest of their lives. I'm just hoping their final run focuses on the art-pop, full band sound that suits them best. More of this, please: I left off AOAL, which was commercially successful to be fair - but I left it off because it didn't to leave an iconic place in their catalogue like the other songs have. I mention Viva la Vida, Paradise, Fix You, etc. and everyone instantly recognizes it as Coldplay. But looking at pure numbers, it was nearly neck and neck with Hymn For the Weekend if I remember correctly.
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Post by clueso on Mar 21, 2022 3:29:38 GMT -5
Actually, Humankind sounds massive live 😍
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Post by World71R on Mar 22, 2022 17:34:27 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 23, 2022 8:34:40 GMT -5
Coldplay wearing alien heads last night at the gig. Yikes.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 23, 2022 12:47:44 GMT -5
Actually, Humankind sounds massive live 😍 Coldplay are such a good band when they remember to be a band. Chris Martin: Hold my beer!!!
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Post by clueso on Apr 1, 2022 5:54:57 GMT -5
After a couple of shows, their setlist is getting even worse. I hope they're still experimenting but leaving out Coloratura,still having Byutiful as a closer is actually ridicolous. They need to get more depth into their set, more songs (even in variation) of Everyday Life, Viva or X&Y.There is way to much pre-recorded stuff going on.Right now, it feels like a repeating Super Bowl-Show every night.
Which is sad, am really looking forward to the concerts in july...
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Post by clueso on Apr 1, 2022 6:27:06 GMT -5
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Post by clueso on Apr 1, 2022 6:53:31 GMT -5
Pretty much yes. Still, there is too much pre-recorded going on.. And if they dont go for Coloratura, make Humankind or even Up&Up the closing one.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 1, 2022 11:37:46 GMT -5
Pretty much yes. Still, there is too much pre-recorded going on.. And if they dont go for Coloratura, make Humankind or even Up&Up the closing one. Didn’t Chris say it’s been too difficult to play outside a well staged theater?
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Post by glider on Apr 2, 2022 16:22:18 GMT -5
I just realized I still haven't listened to this album.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 2, 2022 21:00:20 GMT -5
I just realized I still haven't listened to this album. You are like one of those few people who avoided the plague in Station Eleven.
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Post by batfink30 on Aug 16, 2022 6:21:26 GMT -5
Went to see Coldplay on Saturday night at Wembley. Pretty stunning spectacle with the wrist bands but musically i found them quite "meh". I remember seeing them in 2004 on the AROBTTH tour and on the VLV tour and I was blown away, past couple of times I've seen them I haven't been. At one point they wore strange alien helmets and they had a puppet on stage singing too, I just found it a bit bizarre. Can't help feeling they're on their way out 🤷 At least Craig David came on and did a couple of tunes 🤣🤣
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 16, 2022 6:23:10 GMT -5
My friend was there and gave it rave reviews, it did look pretty weird but also colourful and fun. Obviously it's a tour for their weakest album so will never reach those Viva/Mylo peaks, but they're still a top-tier live act.
I just need Volume Two to have like four/five strong tracks so I make a good combined Music of the Spheres.
What I have locked in:
1. Music of the Spheres 2. Humankind 3. Higher Power 4. 5. 6. Human Heart 7. 8. Biutyful 9. My Universe 10. 11. 12. Coloratura
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 16, 2022 9:27:06 GMT -5
I still stand by "Biutyful" being absolutely fantastic, by the way. Sweet, melodic, alien pop. A perfect execution.
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Post by clueso on Aug 18, 2022 18:41:27 GMT -5
Well, Higher Power and Humankind are great live songs. Especially HP has grown a lot on me. My Universe is an amazing candy pop song and PotP is a monster at their live set.
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Post by World71R on Aug 18, 2022 20:23:00 GMT -5
Went to see Coldplay on Saturday night at Wembley. Pretty stunning spectacle with the wrist bands but musically i found them quite "meh". I remember seeing them in 2004 on the AROBTTH tour and on the VLV tour and I was blown away, past couple of times I've seen them I haven't been. At one point they wore strange alien helmets and they had a puppet on stage singing too, I just found it a bit bizarre. Can't help feeling they're on their way out 🤷 At least Craig David came on and did a couple of tunes 🤣🤣 It's really too bad. I feel like they've been copying the Mylo formula every album since (minus Ghost Stories and Everyday Life) with a little more 'flavor of the month' collaborators and sounds added in each go-around. It's really too bad. GS and EL show that the band has still got creativity in them if they'd stop leaning into their pop influences so much.
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Post by glider on Aug 19, 2022 21:06:38 GMT -5
Went to see Coldplay on Saturday night at Wembley. Pretty stunning spectacle with the wrist bands but musically i found them quite "meh". I remember seeing them in 2004 on the AROBTTH tour and on the VLV tour and I was blown away, past couple of times I've seen them I haven't been. At one point they wore strange alien helmets and they had a puppet on stage singing too, I just found it a bit bizarre. Can't help feeling they're on their way out 🤷 At least Craig David came on and did a couple of tunes 🤣🤣 It's really too bad. I feel like they've been copying the Mylo formula every album since (minus Ghost Stories and Everyday Life) with a little more 'flavor of the month' collaborators and sounds added in each go-around. It's really too bad. GS and EL show that the band has still got creativity in them if they'd stop leaning into their pop influences so much. Took a gander at their latest performance at Wembley and it looks like creatively they don't care anymore. Having more fun doing the touring, everything looks like pre-pandemic times finally so they're going to have a giant successful tour (which I predicted) and have fun doing it with next to none risk-taking. Good for them to be fair but I think the days of Viva-like ambition are behind them.
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Post by matt on Aug 20, 2022 8:00:27 GMT -5
My brother saw them in Paris recently, and like most here, doesn't really care about their latest pop offerings, albeit he is more sympathetic to those recent albums than I am. But he thought they were great, helped that he threw off the cynicism for their more recent pop songs which helped his enjoyment which he thought sounded better live and in a big stadium.
Myself? I don't think I could quite bridge that cynical gap to fully enjoy these new songs but they still put on a great show. It's clear with the younger demographics at their recent shows that they won't be going down any artsy/alternative route any time soon. The poor sales of Everyday Life which catered more towards the older alternative music fan is probably evidence that those fans have long deserted them to the point they're not coming back.
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Post by matt on Aug 26, 2022 10:41:33 GMT -5
A Rush Of Blood To The Head is 20 years old today.
So a good excuse to post this. 2.57 onwards is one of the greatest bits of music ever created, and quite comfortably my absolute favourite outro ever. In just two minutes, Coldplay automatically go head and shoulders above so many bands for this alone. It's transcendent and never fails to give me goosebumps.
Nice to see they have it in their shows for the current tour. It must pack a real punch in that setlist amongst all the sugar rush pop (which having listened over the last few days sounds great live). Terrifyingly, much of that audience wouldn't have even been born when this song and album was released so it must be a real journey of discovery delving into their back catalogue.
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