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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 28, 2021 15:45:19 GMT -5
It's sad to listen to Music of the Spheres and not really hear anything that I can come back to on shuffle or listen to for fun. Everyday Life had Champion of the World, Arabesque, Gun, Trouble in Town, Orphans, Church, etc.; AHFOD had Birds, AHFOD, Adventure of a Lifetime, Up&Up, even Everglow. MOTS just has nothing, besides Colortura, and the band feels so muted in favor of a total Max Martin-ization of the band's sound that turns into something with all flash and no substance, with all recollection of it leaving your brain shortly after you collect it in the first place. People of the Pride is easily the most disappointing song on the whole album, which is too bad, because it wasn't that long ago that Coldplay was putting out great rock songs like Arabesque and Champion of the World, and now this is all they can muster on their "blockbuster" album. Likewise, with Humankind, it's good and uplifting but it feels so bland and overdone. On a positive note, though, I know a lot of people have hated on Biutyful (man that title sucks) but there's a certain charm to it I like (I wish they had gone more experimental with it but, wrong album for that). And My Universe is a bop, even if everyone in Coldplay (sans Chris) sounds robotic as hell on it. This band needs to bring back Brian Eno so badly. Or at least a quality producer who will challenge them to maximize their potential in a vein similar to what Eno did for the band on VLV. One thing I noticed when looking at the production credits in my artwork is all the “writers” listed on each track. Feels like a hip hop album. Each track has 3-4 additional writers listed besides Coldplay. In Hollywood they say the more screenwriters you have on a movie the worst the script is. That might explain the watered down lyrics and bland appeal. No other Coldplay album is really like this lyric wise. Coldplay also has 3-5 producers listed on each track. Very U2. |
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Post by matt on Oct 28, 2021 16:16:28 GMT -5
It's sad to listen to Music of the Spheres and not really hear anything that I can come back to on shuffle or listen to for fun. Everyday Life had Champion of the World, Arabesque, Gun, Trouble in Town, Orphans, Church, etc.; AHFOD had Birds, AHFOD, Adventure of a Lifetime, Up&Up, even Everglow. MOTS just has nothing, besides Colortura, and the band feels so muted in favor of a total Max Martin-ization of the band's sound that turns into something with all flash and no substance, with all recollection of it leaving your brain shortly after you collect it in the first place. People of the Pride is easily the most disappointing song on the whole album, which is too bad, because it wasn't that long ago that Coldplay was putting out great rock songs like Arabesque and Champion of the World, and now this is all they can muster on their "blockbuster" album. Likewise, with Humankind, it's good and uplifting but it feels so bland and overdone. On a positive note, though, I know a lot of people have hated on Biutyful (man that title sucks) but there's a certain charm to it I like (I wish they had gone more experimental with it but, wrong album for that). And My Universe is a bop, even if everyone in Coldplay (sans Chris) sounds robotic as hell on it. This band needs to bring back Brian Eno so badly. Or at least a quality producer who will challenge them to maximize their potential in a vein similar to what Eno did for the band on VLV. One thing I noticed when looking at the production credits in my artwork is all the “writers” listed on each track. Feels like a hip hop album. Each track has 3-4 additional writers listed besides Coldplay. In Hollywood they say the more screenwriters you have on a movie the worst the script is. That might explain the watered down lyrics and bland appeal. No other Coldplay album is really like this lyric wise. Coldplay also has 3-5 producers listed on each track. Very U2. I very much believe in the 'too many cooks spoil the broth' phrase and much prefer artists not to have a committee of producers/songwriters. It really is the industry norm these days, almost reverting back to the pre-Beatles days where it is more unusual to see acts who purely write their own material. I don't put Coldplay down for this to be honest because they still do it with raging success so I can hardly say anythings been spoilt when they make catchy pop that millions adore. But it does feel less organic and less sincere than, say, an album like Everyday Life. U2 is the case in point though where it really screws them - they would hire a creative muse to push them in directions they'd never done in the past, now they get their songs written and produced via committee. And it sounds unbelievably hollow. The best combination in music I feel is (a) a top songwriting talent combined with a (b) producer who pioneers the sound, coercing that songwriter/bands talent into a different sonic and conceptual artistry without infringing upon the creativity and authenticity of that act. Just as Coldplay did with Brian Eno. Not too many individuals involved either - the creative energy is channelled through only a few key personnel rather than a boardroom and it usually results in an acts best work. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 28, 2021 21:54:19 GMT -5
One thing I noticed when looking at the production credits in my artwork is all the “writers” listed on each track. Feels like a hip hop album. Each track has 3-4 additional writers listed besides Coldplay. In Hollywood they say the more screenwriters you have on a movie the worst the script is. That might explain the watered down lyrics and bland appeal. No other Coldplay album is really like this lyric wise. Coldplay also has 3-5 producers listed on each track. Very U2. I very much believe in the 'too many cooks spoil the broth' phrase and much prefer artists not to have a committee of producers/songwriters. It really is the industry norm these days, almost reverting back to the pre-Beatles days where it is more unusual to see acts who purely write their own material. I don't put Coldplay down for this to be honest because they still do it with raging success so I can hardly say anythings been spoilt when they make catchy pop that millions adore. But it does feel less organic and less sincere than, say, an album like Everyday Life. U2 is the case in point though where it really screws them - they would hire a creative muse to push them in directions they'd never done in the past, now they get their songs written and produced via committee. And it sounds unbelievably hollow. The best combination in music I feel is (a) a top songwriting talent combined with a (b) producer who pioneers the sound, coercing that songwriter/bands talent into a different sonic and conceptual artistry without infringing upon the creativity and authenticity of that act. Just as Coldplay did with Brian Eno. Not too many individuals involved either - the creative energy is channelled through only a few key personnel rather than a boardroom and it usually results in an acts best work. Commercially it is working for the band but I firmly believe this band doesn't need all the extra help. They got all they need divided between the 4 of them. |
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Post by glider on Oct 29, 2021 17:07:15 GMT -5
Their final album better be produced by Godrich.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 29, 2021 19:45:59 GMT -5
Their final album better be produced by Godrich. He’s busy with Arcade Fire.  |
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Post by matt on Oct 30, 2021 12:01:35 GMT -5
I very much believe in the 'too many cooks spoil the broth' phrase and much prefer artists not to have a committee of producers/songwriters. It really is the industry norm these days, almost reverting back to the pre-Beatles days where it is more unusual to see acts who purely write their own material. I don't put Coldplay down for this to be honest because they still do it with raging success so I can hardly say anythings been spoilt when they make catchy pop that millions adore. But it does feel less organic and less sincere than, say, an album like Everyday Life. U2 is the case in point though where it really screws them - they would hire a creative muse to push them in directions they'd never done in the past, now they get their songs written and produced via committee. And it sounds unbelievably hollow. The best combination in music I feel is (a) a top songwriting talent combined with a (b) producer who pioneers the sound, coercing that songwriter/bands talent into a different sonic and conceptual artistry without infringing upon the creativity and authenticity of that act. Just as Coldplay did with Brian Eno. Not too many individuals involved either - the creative energy is channelled through only a few key personnel rather than a boardroom and it usually results in an acts best work. Commercially it is working for the band but I firmly believe this band doesn't need all the extra help. They got all they need divided between the 4 of them. I agree, I don't think they need that help and I prefer them when they don't. But industry dictates an arsenal of producers and songwriters these days, and Coldplay are merely just doing that with this album to stay with that trend. It really is no surprise though that the most authentic piece of music on the album, Colouratura, was entirely devised by the band themselves with no creative input from the likes of Max Martin and co. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 30, 2021 12:08:55 GMT -5
Commercially it is working for the band but I firmly believe this band doesn't need all the extra help. They got all they need divided between the 4 of them. I agree, I don't think they need that help and I prefer them when they don't. But industry dictates an arsenal of producers and songwriters these days, and Coldplay are merely just doing that with this album to stay with that trend. It really is no surprise though that the most authentic piece of music on the album, Colouratura, was entirely devised by the band themselves with no creative input from the likes of Max Martin and co. That’s exactly my point. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 1, 2021 6:00:42 GMT -5
Thought the album was alright tbh
Colortura is great. My Universe has that chorus/hook that only a few song writers can manage and Martin is one of them.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 1, 2021 8:43:38 GMT -5
Thought the album was alright tbh Colortura is great. My Universe has that chorus/hook that only a few song writers can manage and Martin is one of them. To me it feels so skimpy when you factor in 5-6 months of promos, creating a fictitious galaxy, announcing a mega world tour and bringing in Max Martin to helm the project. Granted I know there is a second volume coming, some say a third but I haven’t seen the band actually say Volume 3 at all. Not sure why they couldn’t just take the best material from Vol. 1 and 2 to make a strong album top to bottom. 4 interludes on a 12 track album is too much. The album has no balance. It’s got a mega awesome track to conclude the record but nothing earlier to counter balance that brilliance. I’m not talking track length but potency of creativity. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 1, 2021 17:58:15 GMT -5
Thought the album was alright tbh Colortura is great. My Universe has that chorus/hook that only a few song writers can manage and Martin is one of them. To me it feels so skimpy when you factor in 5-6 months of promos, creating a fictitious galaxy, announcing a mega world tour and bringing in Max Martin to helm the project. Granted I know there is a second volume coming, some say a third but I haven’t seen the band actually say Volume 3 at all. Not sure why they couldn’t just take the best material from Vol. 1 and 2 to make a strong album top to bottom. 4 interludes on a 12 track album is too much. The album has no balance. It’s got a mega awesome track to conclude the record but nothing earlier to counter balance that brilliance. I’m not talking track length but potency of creativity. Fair enough. I'm honestly not a massive Coldplay fan. Loved Orphans and Guns from the last one, and thought Arabesque was cool. Few highlights from A Head Full Of Dreams but meh, I'm just generally not that into them other than the big tunes I know. God Put A Smile Upon Your Face is one of my favourite songs though |
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Post by World71R on Nov 2, 2021 0:11:22 GMT -5
Thought the album was alright tbh Colortura is great. My Universe has that chorus/hook that only a few song writers can manage and Martin is one of them. To me it feels so skimpy when you factor in 5-6 months of promos, creating a fictitious galaxy, announcing a mega world tour and bringing in Max Martin to helm the project. Granted I know there is a second volume coming, some say a third but I haven’t seen the band actually say Volume 3 at all. Not sure why they couldn’t just take the best material from Vol. 1 and 2 to make a strong album top to bottom. 4 interludes on a 12 track album is too much. The album has no balance. It’s got a mega awesome track to conclude the record but nothing earlier to counter balance that brilliance. I’m not talking track length but potency of creativity. I'm with you on that. I think they would've been better releasing one big blockbuster album and dropping a few tracks here and there after that, a la what they did with AHFOD, but it'll be exciting to see what comes from the volumes. I anticipate we'll get Silverbird Us Against the World and some other sorta-rarities from it plus some gems. It should be cool. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 2, 2021 11:36:35 GMT -5
To me it feels so skimpy when you factor in 5-6 months of promos, creating a fictitious galaxy, announcing a mega world tour and bringing in Max Martin to helm the project. Granted I know there is a second volume coming, some say a third but I haven’t seen the band actually say Volume 3 at all. Not sure why they couldn’t just take the best material from Vol. 1 and 2 to make a strong album top to bottom. 4 interludes on a 12 track album is too much. The album has no balance. It’s got a mega awesome track to conclude the record but nothing earlier to counter balance that brilliance. I’m not talking track length but potency of creativity. I'm with you on that. I think they would've been better releasing one big blockbuster album and dropping a few tracks here and there after that, a la what they did with AHFOD, but it'll be exciting to see what comes from the volumes. I anticipate we'll get Silverbird Us Against the World and some other sorta-rarities from it plus some gems. It should be cool. I'm wondering if the self-titled final album will be the one where they go back and re-do things that they feel they didn't get right. I think both Guy and Chris have expressed a desire to re-think X&Y at some point. Maybe a big anthology type thing, to release every song from the vaults and re-do everything the way they want? That would be pretty cool. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 2, 2021 11:48:37 GMT -5
I'm with you on that. I think they would've been better releasing one big blockbuster album and dropping a few tracks here and there after that, a la what they did with AHFOD, but it'll be exciting to see what comes from the volumes. I anticipate we'll get Silverbird Us Against the World and some other sorta-rarities from it plus some gems. It should be cool. I'm wondering if the self-titled final album will be the one where they go back and re-do things that they feel they didn't get right. I think both Guy and Chris have expressed a desire to re-think X&Y at some point. Maybe a big anthology type thing, to release every song from the vaults and re-do everything the way they want? That would be pretty cool. I want a rarities album. Chris mentioned during quarantine they’ve considered it big time. They have so many songs collecting dust that haven’t been heard in 15-18 years. I’d love to hear it all unfold over a nice anthology type release down the line. |
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Post by Rolo on Nov 11, 2021 11:33:47 GMT -5
Christmas Lights is probably the last great Christmas tune to come out (excluding LG if we count that). One of my favourites.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 29, 2021 0:04:16 GMT -5
I didn’t think it was possible but Spheres has taken the mantle of being Coldplay’s worst album top to bottom. Left to right. Sure it’s got a mega chart topping single but not much else of substance except for Colortura at the very end. Disappointing results after a 6-7 month build up. 8 full tracks with 4 interludes is a huge problem. Plus 4-5 of those 8 are weak offerings. Maybe Volume 2 will be better?
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Post by clueso on Nov 29, 2021 12:22:05 GMT -5
After only a bit more than one month, the hype is totally gone. Which shows the quality of the record, unfortunately.
Its more like a selection of random songs than the feel of a whole album.
Didn't expected Higher Power to be one of the best songs of it, but it is.
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Post by matt on Nov 29, 2021 13:29:21 GMT -5
I didn’t think it was possible but Spheres has taken the mantle of being Coldplay’s worst album top to bottom. Left to right. Sure it’s got a mega chart topping single but not much else of substance except for Colortura at the very end. Disappointing results after a 6-7 month build up. 8 full tracks with 4 interludes is a huge problem. Plus 4-5 of those 8 are weak offerings. Maybe Volume 2 will be better? It's dropping like a broken lift in the album charts too, already number 22 in the charts, and another 20 positions further and it will be selling at the pace of an album 26 years old (a certain Morning Glory). I could see the point if it was sustaining very healthy chart positions like Head Full of Dreams, but this one ain't doing it. It's not like there's any obvious single left either, they've all been used up - it's not teeming with chart toppers and it's not critically revered either, making the whole thing pointless. Should have just been an EP - you get the chart topper with My Universe but saving yourself from selling a dud album too. God knows it feels like an EP already. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 29, 2021 15:12:46 GMT -5
I didn’t think it was possible but Spheres has taken the mantle of being Coldplay’s worst album top to bottom. Left to right. Sure it’s got a mega chart topping single but not much else of substance except for Colortura at the very end. Disappointing results after a 6-7 month build up. 8 full tracks with 4 interludes is a huge problem. Plus 4-5 of those 8 are weak offerings. Maybe Volume 2 will be better? It's dropping like a broken lift in the album charts too, already number 22 in the charts, and another 20 positions further and it will be selling at the pace of an album 26 years old (a certain Morning Glory). I could see the point if it was sustaining very healthy chart positions like Head Full of Dreams, but this one ain't doing it. It's not like there's any obvious single left either, they've all been used up - it's not teeming with chart toppers and it's not critically revered either, making the whole thing pointless. Should have just been an EP - you get the chart topper with My Universe but saving yourself from selling a dud album too. God knows it feels like an EP already. Or even better, why do Volume 1 and 2? Might as well make it a single well thought out album? And the whole planetary space theme, that seemed like a lot of work and creativity imagining it all but does anyone really care? It’s not like you know what it is if the band doesn’t say it in interviews. It’s not part of a movie or doc or show. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 23, 2021 10:32:35 GMT -5
Chris saying yesterday on Jo Whiley (and later backed by Phil Harvey on Twitter) that Coldplay will release their “final” album in 2025 titled Coldplay. That means the band is going to drop 3 albums in a 4 year window. Volume II, Volume III and one called Coldplay.
I’ll believe it when I see it. It took them 7 months of promotion to drop Volume I. I just don’t seem them quickly going through all that promotional hoopla so soon for the allegedly Volume 2 and 3. Just seems so wild.
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Post by bestwick8 on Dec 23, 2021 12:16:22 GMT -5
Sad to hear they are going to stop making new albums but glad they will still tour, to be honest majority of their albums after Viva were pretty shite …
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 23, 2021 13:52:57 GMT -5
I read on the BBC entertainment pages about Coldplay to stop releasing albums in 2025. I'm not a fan though but I was surprised to read this.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 1, 2022 8:32:22 GMT -5
That “Colours of the Souls” EP leak really makes yea wonder just how much better AHFOD could have been. If those songs had been polished up and tweaked slightly it would tower over the finished product. Still prefer the Ghost Stories version of “The Race”. Almost gonna be a decade in the broom closet.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 7, 2022 17:19:57 GMT -5
Co-worker of mine (age 27ish) after seeing clips of the new Coldplay video described Chris as “……..that middle age uncle who dresses as if he is 22 years old. Like you ever see that middle age guy at Bonefish Grille wearing a hoodie and Yeezys? That’s him.”
Made me chuckle.
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Post by clueso on Feb 24, 2022 18:04:42 GMT -5
Actually, their recent Day N'Nite cover is pretty amazing!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 26, 2022 0:36:09 GMT -5
Wish they did "Pursuit of Happiness". Thats my fav off that album.
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