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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 17, 2020 3:51:11 GMT -5
How those people react is unreal.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 17, 2020 10:02:35 GMT -5
How those people react is unreal. And I swear it, the video doesn't even fully represent the problem. Just grazes the surface of this sort of mentality in America.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour đ´ on Jul 17, 2020 13:23:02 GMT -5
How those people react is unreal. And I swear it, the video doesn't even fully represent the problem. Just grazes the surface of this sort of mentality in America. There was a shooting in response to a request to wear a mask. Why kill an 8 year old because YOU are the most idiotic person there?
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 17, 2020 14:40:43 GMT -5
How those people react is unreal. It's unreal because they are acting and it's fake video. I'm not saying this isn't happening but that video is fake.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 17, 2020 14:47:44 GMT -5
How those people react is unreal. It's unreal because they are acting and it's fake video. I'm not saying this isn't happening but that video is fake. And how do you know it's fake?
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 17, 2020 15:48:16 GMT -5
How those people react is unreal. And I swear it, the video doesn't even fully represent the problem. Just grazes the surface of this sort of mentality in America. Stay safe and stay strong!
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 17, 2020 19:01:53 GMT -5
It's unreal because they are acting and it's fake video. I'm not saying this isn't happening but that video is fake. And how do you know it's fake? It all looks like bad acting and not real human reactions. But then again, maybe that's just how Americans are these days, fake people with no real human reactions and emotions. Anyway, it looks fake and scripted to me, that's how many youtubers work and make their videos but like I said, I guess that the reaction of people would be the same even if it isn't. Some really stupid arguments made by some people but on the other hand, I will never wear mask while cycling for example, it's stupid and it really it's not safe and there is no way that I can put anyone in danger that way.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 17, 2020 19:22:35 GMT -5
6,098,500 People who died of hunger this year
459,194 Deaths caused by water related diseases this year
7,078,848 Communicable disease deaths this year
265,942 Seasonal flu deaths this year
916,676 Deaths caused by HIV/AIDS this year
534,872 Deaths caused by malaria this year
584,748 Suicides this year
736,095 Road traffic accident fatalities this year
''598,446'' Corona deaths
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 17, 2020 19:33:34 GMT -5
And how do you know it's fake? It all looks like bad acting and not real human reactions. But then again, maybe that's just how Americans are these days, fake people with no real human reactions and emotions. Anyway, it looks fake and scripted to me, that's how many youtubers work and make their videos but like I said, I guess that the reaction of people would be the same even if it isn't. Some really stupid arguments made by some people but on the other hand, I will never wear mask while cycling for example, it's stupid and it really it's not safe and there is no way that I can put anyone in danger that way. So you don't know, it's entirely guess work on your part and you have absolutely zero evidence it is fake. Perhaps take that into consideration before you state things so matter-of-factly eh? I see nothing to suggest it not real. I mean why fake it when it's so easy to produce? All they have to do is politely ask a bunch of people if they want a free mask and to those who say no, ask them why. Then all they have to do is edit together the more extreme and silly reactions and voila. It's that fucking easy. The only thing that I can see I would call fake is how polite the two guys giving away the masks are being. This of course is necessary for the video. By being completely non threatening they reveal to the viewers the nasty character traits of the individuals they are talking to. Nothing about these reactions are surprising if you seen your fair share of videos of people being asked about politics, conspiracy theories or just about any topic large numbers of people are ignorant about. Check out Jordan Klepper's interviews of Trump supporters, Sacha Baron Cohen's character interviews... it goes on and on.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 17, 2020 23:50:11 GMT -5
And how do you know it's fake? It all looks like bad acting and not real human reactions. But then again, maybe that's just how Americans are these days, fake people with no real human reactions and emotions. Anyway, it looks fake and scripted to me, that's how many youtubers work and make their videos but like I said, I guess that the reaction of people would be the same even if it isn't. Some really stupid arguments made by some people but on the other hand, I will never wear mask while cycling for example, it's stupid and it really it's not safe and there is no way that I can put anyone in danger that way. Maybe it is fake. Then again, a lot of YouTubers spend days and days getting reactions from people and then only show the select reactions which are actually interesting and or meet whatever agenda they want to sell. Regardless, I assure you at least half of the country identify with the folks in that video, regardless if those specific people are legit. It's a legitimate intellectual crisis here.
And what do you mean cycling with a mask is unsafe? What is unsafe about it?
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Post by globe on Jul 18, 2020 3:49:35 GMT -5
6,098,500 People who died of hunger this year 459,194 Deaths caused by water related diseases this year 7,078,848 Communicable disease deaths this year 265,942 Seasonal flu deaths this year 916,676 Deaths caused by HIV/AIDS this year 534,872 Deaths caused by malaria this year 584,748 Suicides this year 736,095 Road traffic accident fatalities this year ''598,446'' Corona deaths Whatâs your point?
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 18, 2020 4:24:19 GMT -5
It all looks like bad acting and not real human reactions. But then again, maybe that's just how Americans are these days, fake people with no real human reactions and emotions. Anyway, it looks fake and scripted to me, that's how many youtubers work and make their videos but like I said, I guess that the reaction of people would be the same even if it isn't. Some really stupid arguments made by some people but on the other hand, I will never wear mask while cycling for example, it's stupid and it really it's not safe and there is no way that I can put anyone in danger that way. Maybe it is fake. Then again, a lot of YouTubers spend days and days getting reactions from people and then only show the select reactions which are actually interesting and or meet whatever agenda they want to sell. Regardless, I assure you at least half of the country identify with the folks in that video, regardless if those specific people are legit. It's a legitimate intellectual crisis here.
And what do you mean cycling with a mask is unsafe? What is unsafe about it?
Do you know what happened in Serbia? Did you read about big protests and police brutality? We had tragic situation, so bad that we needed police curfew and lockdown. And then election were coming and government said, Covid it's over, numbers were low, let's have Belgrade's football derby, let's have Adria tennis tour, let's have elections. Everybody boycotted fake elections, like 70% of people. And day after elections, they said that situation is tragic, from 0 to 1 death every day, we started to have 20,30,40 deaths by Covid every day. It all just shows how fake this is all is and how they are fixing numbers like thay want. And it's not conspiracy, there is video where they are saying that they were at the beggining putting everyone as Covid victims, you die from heart attack, they said it's Covid. I will send you video if you know Serbian. Anyway, I am against lying, panic and people acting like idiots. But no matter if that video is fake or not, no matter what those people are saying, I don't think that 90% of those people are doing anything wrong. They are all making their immune system stronger by spending time outside, doing sports. There is guy sitting alone and they are actually the ones coming to him and spreading risks of corona, there are those two people sitting alone, just like they do at their home, there is nobody around them. People running, cycling... Just what everyone should do. Wearing a mask during a summer while cycling alone with nobody around you? Oh, come on. They spent days making these videos? And they are learning us about corona? Just because thay have mask? What about that they got in completely unnecessary contact with all those people while most, if not all of them were minding their our business, spending time alone or with member of family, keeping social distance from everyone.
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Post by funhouse on Jul 18, 2020 4:45:14 GMT -5
Maybe it is fake. Then again, a lot of YouTubers spend days and days getting reactions from people and then only show the select reactions which are actually interesting and or meet whatever agenda they want to sell. Regardless, I assure you at least half of the country identify with the folks in that video, regardless if those specific people are legit. It's a legitimate intellectual crisis here.
And what do you mean cycling with a mask is unsafe? What is unsafe about it?
Do you know what happened in Serbia? Did you read about big protests and police brutality? We had tragic situation, so bad that we needed police curfew and lockdown. And then election were coming and government said, Covid it's over, numbers were low, let's have Belgrade's football derby, let's have Adria tennis tour, let's have elections. Everybody boycotted fake elections, like 70% of people. And day after elections, they said that situation is tragic, from 0 to 1 death every day, we started to have 20,30,40 deaths by Covid every day. It all just shows how fake this is all is and how they are fixing numbers like thay want. And it's not conspiracy, there is video where they are saying that they were at the beggining putting everyone as Covid victims, you die from heart attack, they said it's Covid. I will send you video if you know Serbian. Anyway, I am against lying, panic and people acting like idiots. But no matter if that video is fake or not, no matter what those people are saying, I don't think that 90% of those people are doing anything wrong. They are all making their immune system stronger by spending time outside, doing sports. There is guy sitting alone and they are actually the ones coming to him and spreading risks of corona, there are those two people sitting alone, just like they do at their home, there is nobody around them. People running, cycling... Just what everyone should do. Wearing a mask during a summer while cycling alone with nobody around you? Oh, come on. They spent days making these videos? And they are learning us about corona? Just because thay have mask? What about that they got in completely unnecessary contact with all those people while most, if not all of them were minding their our business, spending time alone or with member of family, keeping social distance from everyone. Just because your government lied to you doesn't mean that the virus doesn't exist. You can't possibly believe that.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour đ´ on Jul 18, 2020 4:59:57 GMT -5
My cousin walked 3 km home with kidney stones and got this 'you have COVID' look from nurses. She is neg thankfully.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 18, 2020 5:05:27 GMT -5
Do you know what happened in Serbia? Did you read about big protests and police brutality? We had tragic situation, so bad that we needed police curfew and lockdown. And then election were coming and government said, Covid it's over, numbers were low, let's have Belgrade's football derby, let's have Adria tennis tour, let's have elections. Everybody boycotted fake elections, like 70% of people. And day after elections, they said that situation is tragic, from 0 to 1 death every day, we started to have 20,30,40 deaths by Covid every day. It all just shows how fake this is all is and how they are fixing numbers like thay want. And it's not conspiracy, there is video where they are saying that they were at the beggining putting everyone as Covid victims, you die from heart attack, they said it's Covid. I will send you video if you know Serbian. Anyway, I am against lying, panic and people acting like idiots. But no matter if that video is fake or not, no matter what those people are saying, I don't think that 90% of those people are doing anything wrong. They are all making their immune system stronger by spending time outside, doing sports. There is guy sitting alone and they are actually the ones coming to him and spreading risks of corona, there are those two people sitting alone, just like they do at their home, there is nobody around them. People running, cycling... Just what everyone should do. Wearing a mask during a summer while cycling alone with nobody around you? Oh, come on. They spent days making these videos? And they are learning us about corona? Just because thay have mask? What about that they got in completely unnecessary contact with all those people while most, if not all of them were minding their our business, spending time alone or with member of family, keeping social distance from everyone. Just because your government lied to you doesn't mean that the virus doesn't exist. You can't possibly believe that. Who said that it doesn't exist? I am still acting more responsible than 99% of the world. I am just agaist lies, manipulations and panic.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 18, 2020 5:12:50 GMT -5
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 18, 2020 12:59:29 GMT -5
Maybe it is fake. Then again, a lot of YouTubers spend days and days getting reactions from people and then only show the select reactions which are actually interesting and or meet whatever agenda they want to sell. Regardless, I assure you at least half of the country identify with the folks in that video, regardless if those specific people are legit. It's a legitimate intellectual crisis here.
And what do you mean cycling with a mask is unsafe? What is unsafe about it?
Do you know what happened in Serbia? Did you read about big protests and police brutality? We had tragic situation, so bad that we needed police curfew and lockdown. And then election were coming and government said, Covid it's over, numbers were low, let's have Belgrade's football derby, let's have Adria tennis tour, let's have elections. Everybody boycotted fake elections, like 70% of people. And day after elections, they said that situation is tragic, from 0 to 1 death every day, we started to have 20,30,40 deaths by Covid every day. It all just shows how fake this is all is and how they are fixing numbers like thay want. And it's not conspiracy, there is video where they are saying that they were at the beggining putting everyone as Covid victims, you die from heart attack, they said it's Covid. I will send you video if you know Serbian. Anyway, I am against lying, panic and people acting like idiots. But no matter if that video is fake or not, no matter what those people are saying, I don't think that 90% of those people are doing anything wrong. They are all making their immune system stronger by spending time outside, doing sports. There is guy sitting alone and they are actually the ones coming to him and spreading risks of corona, there are those two people sitting alone, just like they do at their home, there is nobody around them. People running, cycling... Just what everyone should do. Wearing a mask during a summer while cycling alone with nobody around you? Oh, come on. They spent days making these videos? And they are learning us about corona? Just because thay have mask? What about that they got in completely unnecessary contact with all those people while most, if not all of them were minding their our business, spending time alone or with member of family, keeping social distance from everyone. Somebody who dies of a heart attack may very well have died as a result of covid. The illness can cause complications. Acute Respiratory Failure Pneumonia Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) Acute Cardiac Injury Acute Kidney Injury Septic Shock Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation Blood Clots Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children Rhabdomyolysis
This is why those who are high-risk need to stay home as much as possible and wear masks whenever they are out. They are at greater risk of complication. Like it or not, there are a lot of ignorant people out there forming conclusions based on poor evidence and reason. And misinformation is spreading like wildfire because situations aren't properly examined. This is the importance of the scientific method, which many people up and abandon.
"Wearing a mask during a summer while cycling alone with nobody around you? Oh, come on."
If you're riding out in the country, that's one thing. If you're riding in streets packed with people, inside gyms, then you're absolutely putting others at risk as you will produce more spittle. Just because you're outside, doesn't mean you or others are safe. Take the beaches as an example. There's good reason to think that those swimming in the water, spitting into it, pissing into it are causing high risk of infection, despite the nice breeze and open air. How? Because of the crashing waves which aerosolize the water. Those particles then float in the air for you to breathe in.
"They spent days making these videos? And they are learning us about corona? Just because thay have mask? What about that they got in completely unnecessary contact with all those people while most, if not all of them were minding their our business, spending time alone or with member of family, keeping social distance from everyone."
That's a valid concern. Unfortunately, the American pursuit of capitalism at work. All the more reason for UBI so people don't have to put themselves and others at risk.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 19, 2020 9:13:12 GMT -5
We can't stop corona virus, deal with it. The best you can do is what you should every day, with or with or without corona. Spend time in the sun, cycle, run, workout, swim, eat well plus keep distance as much as you can and be cautious in crowded places as much as you can, wear mask, especially indoors.
Do you know why so many doctors, dentists died? It's because amount of time they spent in close contant with infected person and amount of virus they caught. And they were all wearing masks. Getting virus while cycling? How exactly? Other cyclist is going to spit in your mouth while you are passing by him? What are the chances of something like that happens? There is greater chance that you fell off a bike and die. And even if you catch virus that way, that is really small amount of virus and if you are healthy person, and as a cyclist you probably are, nothing will happen to you.
All those people in video were doing right things, social distancing, spending time outside, walking, running, cycling... except of those two idiots who made video.
And I don't care what they are saying, you have right to say or think whatever you want while that what you are saying or thinking or what you are doing is not putting anyone else in danger.
Who gives a shit what that woman said about masks, all I see is that she is with her husband, spending some time in oper air with nobody around them until those two guys came.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 19, 2020 12:22:29 GMT -5
We can't stop corona virus, deal with it. The best you can do is what you should every day, with or with or without corona. Spend time in the sun, cycle, run, workout, swim, eat well plus keep distance as much as you can and be cautious in crowded places as much as you can, wear mask, especially indoors. Actually, we can avoid many deaths if we halt the rapid spread. If we put a freeze on work and all bills, force people to wear masks in public and generally work together to stay home as much as we possibly can, we can reduce it to the point of it being a non-issue until a proper vaccine arrives. This is incredibly important to do, because the more people who become infected increases the chance of deadly mutations. Mutations which could result in a wave similar to or worse than that of the 1918 Spanish Flu which infected a third of the worlds population and killed 50 million people.
"Getting virus while cycling? How exactly?"
People are getting the virus in two ways. Breathing in airborne particulates or contact transmission. You shake hands with somebody infected and then touch your eye. Or handle your food which you then ingest. Or you touch a surface which contains the virus and then do the above. But the largest problem is what you're breathing in. Which is why countries that are wearing masks, where the public makes the conscious sacrifice of their comfort to place a mask over their face, they have significantly less spread.
When you exercise, your breathing becomes more intense. Your lungs work harder. Every time you breathe, you breathe out particulate into the air. The faster you breathe, the more particulate you produce. If you're exercising, you're putting all of that into the air, which someone else may breathe in. If you're wearing a mask, the majority of that particulate will be caught. If exercising, you're also breathing in more air, meaning if others without masks are around you, then you are more likely to inhale larger viral loads from them. This is less likely outside in the open air. However, not impossible and especially in cities with hundreds of people regularly in the streets, infection becomes more probable.
"All those people in video were doing right things, social distancing, spending time outside, walking, running, cycling... except of those two idiots who made video."
If you leave your home without a mask on, you are selfish and irresponsible. You are not doing the right thing. 6 feet social distancing is the minimum amount you need to be away to reduce viral load, anymore than that would be better, but not practical in most urban areas where there is limited space. Six feet social distancing does not extinguish the chances of infecting others completely. The best way to social distance is to avoid being around people altogether for the foreseeable future. And if you must be around others, wear a fucking mask. The mask you wear does not protect YOU, it protects others.
"And I don't care what they are saying, you have right to say or think whatever you want while that what you are saying or thinking or what you are doing is not putting anyone else in danger."
Yes, indeed. You have the right to be a selfish asshole. But if you enter the public without a mask, you are putting others in danger. Specifically, in two ways. The first and most obvious is that if you have become infected, you may be spreading the virus. The second way is in how others perceive you and the concept of mob mentality. If others see you without a mask, they too may go without one. If on the other hand, everybody is wearing a mask around them, they may be more likely to get one too.
"Who gives a shit what that woman said about masks, all I see is that she is with her husband, spending some time in oper air with nobody around them until those two guys came."
Being in the open air does not eliminate possibility to contract virus. And you're not thinking about where they might go afterwards, where they were before, how they will get home, what they will touch along the way, who they might bump into or pass on the street. It is irresponsible behavior and displays a lack of consideration for the well-being of others. Their venture outdoors would be much more forgivable if they just wore a mask. It's not difficult. It's a small sacrifice of comfort for much benefit to others.
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2020 15:34:53 GMT -5
6,098,500 People who died of hunger this year 459,194 Deaths caused by water related diseases this year 7,078,848 Communicable disease deaths this year 265,942 Seasonal flu deaths this year 916,676 Deaths caused by HIV/AIDS this year 534,872 Deaths caused by malaria this year 584,748 Suicides this year 736,095 Road traffic accident fatalities this year ''598,446'' Corona deaths Whatâs your point? Their point is why is the world freaking out over a virus that has a less than 1% death rate and has never been isolated, when there other things going on that are way more important.
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Post by globe on Jul 19, 2020 15:42:22 GMT -5
Their point is why is the world freaking out over a virus that has a less than 1% death rate and has never been isolated, when there other things going on that are way more important. Well câmon you tell me. Since you clearly think covid id nothing to worry about - why is the entire would freaking out about it?
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2020 15:43:55 GMT -5
Their point is why is the world freaking out over a virus that has a less than 1% death rate and has never been isolated, when there other things going on that are way more important. Well câmon you tell me. Since you clearly think covid id nothing to worry about - why is the entire would freaking out about it? Because they've been told to. If heart disease, HIV or the seasonal flu was shoved in your face 24/7, everyone would be having the same reaction
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 19, 2020 15:59:10 GMT -5
I don't know, 12 days later, me and 50 people that I know who were there in first rows are completely fine.
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2020 16:04:13 GMT -5
I don't know, 12 days later, me and 50 people that I know who were there in first rows are completely fine. That's cos theres nothing to worry about mate. Take care of yourself in the protests.
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Post by globe on Jul 19, 2020 16:31:36 GMT -5
Well câmon you tell me. Since you clearly think covid id nothing to worry about - why is the entire would freaking out about it? Because they've been told to. If heart disease, HIV or the seasonal flu was shoved in your face 24/7, everyone would be having the same reaction Heart disease and HIV canât be spread around by somebody simply breathing next to you. Yes, flu perhaps can. But flu doesnât make your lungs fall in on yourself. So Iâll suppose Iâll need to ask again - what the fuck is your point comparing these things to COVID?
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