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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 11, 2020 2:11:20 GMT -5
I am getting more curiousor and curiousor by day about what the new version will sound like. I'm hoping it wouldn't sound too different, but I'd kind of like to see if Noel really made any improvements on it.
Q for everyone about to follow this thread:
Would you want it to be different, or would you want there to be some changes?
I think we all know what change needs to be done to a certain lyrics... If you know what I'm saying.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 11, 2020 2:42:54 GMT -5
I think the version we already have is pretty damn near perfect. Honestly not sure how it could be improved, but if Noel decides to mess with the arrangement a little, he should make it spacier and more apocalyptic. His EP tracks have been generally really well produced considering that this is the same man who produced Heathen Chemistry, but I hope he doesn't defang this track like he did with Freaky Teeth, A Simple Game of Genius, etc.
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Post by megyesitomate on Feb 11, 2020 2:56:05 GMT -5
I think the version we already have is pretty damn near perfect. Honestly not sure how it could be improved, but if Noel decides to mess with the arrangement a little, he should make it spacier and more apocalyptic. His EP tracks have been generally really well produced considering that this is the same man who produced Heathen Chemistry, but I hope he doesn't defang this track like he did with Freaky Teeth, A Simple Game of Genius, etc. Highly unrelated, but what’s exactly the problem with the album version of A Simple Game of Genius? |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 11, 2020 5:18:27 GMT -5
It's apparently very similar and not much change at all (from Simmo from the Stage Left Podcast).
Which is fine by me. It's probably just a cleaner version.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Feb 11, 2020 6:05:03 GMT -5
I don't know why but I thought he would replace the choir for the girls maybe. Maybe a few new lyrics as well.
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Post by jh on Feb 11, 2020 8:20:07 GMT -5
I think the version we already have is pretty damn near perfect. Honestly not sure how it could be improved, but if Noel decides to mess with the arrangement a little, he should make it spacier and more apocalyptic. His EP tracks have been generally really well produced considering that this is the same man who produced Heathen Chemistry, but I hope he doesn't defang this track like he did with Freaky Teeth, A Simple Game of Genius, etc. Highly unrelated, but what’s exactly the problem with the album version of A Simple Game of Genius? I've never understood this either. One of my favourite B sides. The remixes of ot kick ass too |
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Post by dadrocker on Feb 11, 2020 8:40:24 GMT -5
Highly unrelated, but what’s exactly the problem with the album version of A Simple Game of Genius? I've never understood this either. One of my favourite B sides. The remixes of ot kick ass too I'm always surprised when people don't like that tune as well. Great song. |
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Post by drummert5 on Feb 11, 2020 13:29:35 GMT -5
It's apparently very similar and not much change at all (from Simmo from the Stage Left Podcast). Which is fine by me. It's probably just a cleaner version. I’m expecting something along the lines of the difference between the Revolution Song demo and the one that ended up as a Chasing Yesterday b-side. EDIT: have just listened to the version we already have for the first time in forever. It really does sound like a song from another age. I like it just fine but it's Force of Nature with the NGHFB album sound. Also, apparently Wandering Star changed quite a bit after Simmo heard it, so it's possible he's done more to this one, too. I hope it doesn't sound exactly like the demo. Either way, it should be a good fit for the live set. |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 11, 2020 13:57:11 GMT -5
It's apparently very similar and not much change at all (from Simmo from the Stage Left Podcast). Which is fine by me. It's probably just a cleaner version. I’m expecting something along the lines of the difference between the Revolution Song demo and the one that ended up as a Chasing Yesterday b-side. EDIT: have just listened to the version we already have for the first time in forever. It really does sound like a song from another age. I like it just fine but it's Force of Nature with the NGHFB album sound. Also, apparently Wandering Star changed quite a bit after Simmo heard it, so it's possible he's done more to this one, too. I hope it doesn't sound exactly like the demo. Either way, it should be a good fit for the live set. Yep, Simmo did mention it could change! (was on the Oasis pod last week) |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Feb 11, 2020 15:51:42 GMT -5
Highly unrelated, but what’s exactly the problem with the album version of A Simple Game of Genius? Well the opening few lines are cringeworthy but the song itself is OK as a whole. Oh Cecilia
Close your eyes and I will be with ya
I'm in the song that's rising over ya
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Post by matt on Feb 11, 2020 16:13:11 GMT -5
Problem with A Simple Game of Genius is that it’s the standard fare mid tempo plodder of Noel post-90s. It’s really beige and bland and nowhere near as spectacular as it wants to be. It’s where the dreaded term ‘dadrock’ is most applicable. Beady Eye were very similar too, whereas Liam’s solo efforts, while using traditional influences, are not nearly as tired or plodding.
If there’s one thing that David Holmes did, it was to get Noel out of that rut, forcing him to vary the rhythms a bit more. Even for his more traditional songs since 2017, he’s been able to mix things up with far more interesting results since.
This is the biggest failure of Wandering Star - it reverts to type for Noel circa 2000-2017 and is just really bland.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 11, 2020 16:21:15 GMT -5
Team Cloud.
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 11, 2020 16:29:14 GMT -5
I think Simple Game Of Genius is great, one of the last examples of Noel being able to write an intro, verse, bridge, chorus, glorious guitar solo, chorus like in the old days. Such a waste to be thrown away. This and Come On Outside could have been Oasis number 1s if things had worked out differently.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 11, 2020 16:35:08 GMT -5
I think the version we already have is pretty damn near perfect. Honestly not sure how it could be improved, but if Noel decides to mess with the arrangement a little, he should make it spacier and more apocalyptic. His EP tracks have been generally really well produced considering that this is the same man who produced Heathen Chemistry, but I hope he doesn't defang this track like he did with Freaky Teeth, A Simple Game of Genius, etc. Highly unrelated, but what’s exactly the problem with the album version of A Simple Game of Genius? The soundcheck version sounded like Down by the River fed through D'You Know What I Mean. The album version sounds flat, forced, and lifeless in comparison. Not too different from the album versions of Record Machine and Stop the Clocks. A mere shadow of what should've been. |
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Post by Zingbot on Feb 11, 2020 16:39:47 GMT -5
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Feb 11, 2020 16:42:28 GMT -5
Really can't wait for this song, just so I can read the lyrics
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 11, 2020 16:45:10 GMT -5
I've never understood this either. One of my favourite B sides. The remixes of ot kick ass too I'm always surprised when people don't like that tune as well. Great song. To me it was a disappointment. We knew the soundcheck version for 2 years prior. It was this hugely sounding guitar hero epic. Sounded like Neil Young and Crazy Horse doing Champagne Supernova style solos. It was super long too in their jamming. 18 min. Sadly all of that promise was stripped away. It was never gonna be 18 min, prob 7 but it lost all its punch. |
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Post by theseventwenty on Feb 11, 2020 21:43:29 GMT -5
Highly unrelated, but what’s exactly the problem with the album version of A Simple Game of Genius? I've never understood this either. One of my favourite B sides. The remixes of ot kick ass too There’s remixes of it?! |
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Post by Jim on Feb 12, 2020 2:08:33 GMT -5
I've never understood this either. One of my favourite B sides. The remixes of ot kick ass too There’s remixes of it?! There’s no remixes of A Simple Game of Genius. The only remixes from the first album are UNKLE reworks of Let The Lord Shine Shine A Light On Me and AKA What a Life and an Amorphous Androgynous of What a Life too. |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 12, 2020 5:13:57 GMT -5
Problem with A Simple Game of Genius is that it’s the standard fare mid tempo plodder of Noel post-90s. It’s really beige and bland and nowhere near as spectacular as it wants to be. It’s where the dreaded term ‘dadrock’ is most applicable. Beady Eye were very similar too, whereas Liam’s solo efforts, while using traditional influences, are not nearly as tired or plodding. If there’s one thing that David Holmes did, it was to get Noel out of that rut, forcing him to vary the rhythms a bit more. Even for his more traditional songs since 2017, he’s been able to mix things up with far more interesting results since. This is the biggest failure of Wandering Star - it reverts to type for Noel circa 2000-2017 and is just really bland. Agree in the main (I really like Wondering Star). The 'live' 2009 version of Simple Game Of Genius was so spectacular in that soundcheck. So huge, so loud. The record version does just feel like a watered-down attempt at Champagne Supernova – though I still like to listen to it every now and again and it's great to play acoustically. |
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Post by norkbauer on Feb 12, 2020 8:12:06 GMT -5
I'm dying to listen a preview of this one... Unfortunately, the EP is being sold only as vinyl, so there's no digital sources til next month.
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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 12, 2020 9:00:58 GMT -5
23 days until the 11 and a half year wait is over, and we finally get a finished version of Come On Outside!
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Post by dadrocker on Feb 12, 2020 9:12:01 GMT -5
I'm always surprised when people don't like that tune as well. Great song. To me it was a disappointment. We knew the soundcheck version for 2 years prior. It was this hugely sounding guitar hero epic. Sounded like Neil Young and Crazy Horse doing Champagne Supernova style solos. It was super long too in their jamming. 18 min. Sadly all of that promise was stripped away. It was never gonna be 18 min, prob 7 but it lost all its punch. Never heard that version but guaranteed it never would sound like that in the studio anyway. Hearing a live version of a song before a recorded version will almost always set you up for disappointment. We superfans gets what we deserve from time to time. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 12, 2020 10:06:15 GMT -5
23 days until the 11 and a half year wait is over, and we finally get a finished version of Come On Outside! Truly mind blowing. I can’t believe that much time has passed! I remember not long after DOYS dropped that we were all considering songs for LP #8. - Come On, It’s Alright - Record Machine - Stop The Clocks - Freaky Teeth - A Simple Game of Genius - If I Had A Gun |
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Post by andymorris on Feb 12, 2020 10:10:04 GMT -5
I wish i was excited. I hope it'll be alright and not just remix of the demo. It was kinda lazy. Need better vocals too. But Noel has vastly evolved since that 08 or 10 demo.
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