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Post by I Built The Moon on Jan 31, 2020 3:17:04 GMT -5
If we consider BMR to be in the same 'family' as BSD and TITP, I think it's by far the best of the lot. Strikes that lovely balance between dance-y, smooth atmosphere and great melody Noel is a genius at.
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Post by Henrz on Jan 31, 2020 3:30:33 GMT -5
I know I’m definitely in a very very small minority but I much prefer songs like Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place and Blue Moon Rising over material like Dream On, God Help Us All and The Dying of the Light. I'm in this minority too. My current ranking of the 3 songs is: 1. Black Star Dancing 2. Blue Moon Rising 3, This Is The Place My only criticism of Blue Moon Rising is that it is way too short. As for songs like Dream On, The Dying Of The Light and others from his first two records, as much as I love them, right now I'm into what he is doing now. I just wish he had made a full album of his current music. |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 31, 2020 3:55:26 GMT -5
Noel is a godlike genius song writer, but He isn't a good disco/cosmic pop producer. I would agree with you in general but when actually reviewing the EPs songs, I am very satisfied with the production of TITP and Blue Moon Rising and in turn I think Wandering Star has by far the worst production of the lot (which is a shame, since the song has such an indelible melody). Anyway, I agree it would be fantastic if it worked with Holmes again |
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 31, 2020 3:58:45 GMT -5
I know I’m definitely in a very very small minority but I much prefer songs like Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place and Blue Moon Rising over material like Dream On, God Help Us All and The Dying of the Light. I'd take songs like Holy Mountain and Fort Knox over all of them. Bring the noise, Noel! Bring the ruckus! |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 31, 2020 4:02:39 GMT -5
I know I’m definitely in a very very small minority but I much prefer songs like Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place and Blue Moon Rising over material like Dream On, God Help Us All and The Dying of the Light. I'm in this minority too. My current ranking of the 3 songs is: 1. Black Star Dancing 2. Blue Moon Rising 3, This Is The Place My only criticism of Blue Moon Rising is that it is way too short. As for songs like Dream On, The Dying Of The Light and other from his first to records, as much as I love them, right now I'm into what he is doing now. I just wish he had made a full album of his current music. Black Star Dancing does not really work for me but I agree on all the others. And, even outside the electronic-house vibe, he is trying to produce his more conventional songs in a different way: TDOTL is no doubt a good song but A Dream is All I Need to Go By sounds much more fresh to me |
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Post by chamu on Jan 31, 2020 4:13:20 GMT -5
I know I’m definitely in a very very small minority but I much prefer songs like Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place and Blue Moon Rising over material like Dream On, God Help Us All and The Dying of the Light. Sure, but i much prefer Falling Down all over these three songs. A 12 years old song. Back then he could write a GREAT song with a different sound and a great production. Now he just write derivatived and uninspired songs with a sound he already delivered when he was in the latter days with Oasis. This is my problem with him now. I really enjoy when he tries to push him further but i really miss the times when he could do this two things at the same time... (just my opinion)  |
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Post by rickypaglais on Jan 31, 2020 4:59:31 GMT -5
Trying new things isn't that impressive when it's shit
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Post by LightsOffInside on Jan 31, 2020 5:12:20 GMT -5
I know I’m definitely in a very very small minority but I much prefer songs like Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place and Blue Moon Rising over material like Dream On, God Help Us All and The Dying of the Light. Fair enough on TITP and BMR, both solid tunes, but Black Star Dancing is the worst song he has ever done. I am a big advocate for opinions in music, but I cannot help but judge those who enjoy that "song". Dream On is a dreadful plod, agree with you there. |
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Post by bt95 on Jan 31, 2020 5:35:55 GMT -5
I'm glad he's not trying to rewrite songs which will never be matched and in turn seems to be developing (for lack of a better word). Instead, just rewrite the same barely mediocre attempts at madchester, then? Although the dying of the light/if I had a gun/dead in the water were just more of the classic noel-by-numbers tunes, I’ll take the emotive/passionate vocal melodies over these limp whisper/whines any day. But that’s just my opinion. That's fine. Personally I don't think they are the same attempts though. BSD, TITP and BMR are all fairly different in their own right. They all have good parts and all have flaws but I'd much rather that than have him rewriting his first two solo albums (which I still think are great, btw). |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 31, 2020 6:39:41 GMT -5
I know I’m definitely in a very very small minority but I much prefer songs like Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place and Blue Moon Rising over material like Dream On, God Help Us All and The Dying of the Light. Sure, but i much prefer Falling Down all over these three songs. A 12 years old song. Back then he could write a GREAT song with a different sound and a great production. Now he just write derivatived and uninspired songs with a sound he already delivered when he was in the latter days with Oasis. This is my problem with him now. I really enjoy when he tries to push him further but i really miss the times when he could do this two things at the same time... (just my opinion) Falling Down is a good song, but I think it's a bit overrated here. I think BOTMY or WTSRTS are more acomplished versions of the same type of song (traditional song structure with some electronic touches). TITP and BMR are a different type of song in my opinion: they do not follow a verses-bridge-chorus structure and the hooks are created differently, although BMR is still very strong melodically imo |
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Post by norkbauer on Jan 31, 2020 7:23:20 GMT -5
Blue Moon Rising becomes my favourite song from all EPs. I'm waiting for Come On Outside (and this one has potential to be the best), but this new one is amazing, emotional, with a special dramatic feeling that I was waiting from Noel since Ballad of the Mighty I.
The middle part between the chorus could be better, it deserved a better solo, but isn't bad at all.
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Post by MacaRonic on Jan 31, 2020 8:48:21 GMT -5
What a piece of shit of a song.
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Post by bt95 on Jan 31, 2020 8:57:49 GMT -5
What a piece of shit of a song. Why do you even bother to comment the same thing every time? |
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Jan 31, 2020 9:06:56 GMT -5
What a piece of shit of a song. Why do you even bother to comment the same thing every time? Maybe cause it is a fact. Sleepwalk music. A dead body still moving and making songs based on random reflexes. Well, who cares. |
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 31, 2020 9:09:05 GMT -5
Why do you even bother to comment the same thing every time? Maybe cause it is a fact. Sleepwalk music. A dead body still moving and making songs based on random reflexes. Well, who cares. Much like Richard Ashcroft? |
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Jan 31, 2020 9:12:11 GMT -5
Maybe cause it is a fact. Sleepwalk music. A dead body still moving and making songs based on random reflexes. Well, who cares. Much like Richard Ashcroft? Much like Richard Ashcroft |
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Post by bt95 on Jan 31, 2020 9:17:04 GMT -5
Maybe cause it is a fact. Sleepwalk music. A dead body still moving and making songs based on random reflexes. Well, who cares. Much like Richard Ashcroft? Took the words right out of my mouth  And I love Verve/early Ashcroft solo stuff - don't even mind his new ones either |
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Post by bt95 on Jan 31, 2020 9:17:38 GMT -5
Why do you even bother to comment the same thing every time? Maybe cause it is a fact. Sleepwalk music. A dead body still moving and making songs based on random reflexes. Well, who cares. I'd rather the 'sleepwalk music' - even though I don't think it is - be something different than a rehash of his first two solo albums though |
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Jan 31, 2020 9:22:01 GMT -5
Maybe cause it is a fact. Sleepwalk music. A dead body still moving and making songs based on random reflexes. Well, who cares. I'd rather the 'sleepwalk music' - even though I don't think it is - be something different than a rehash of his first two solo albums though maybe yes. It is possible. I think you are what you are, no matter how hard you try to make something different, some people can do it succesfully, some not. But I believe if somebody is enjoying it, its ok. For me it is just a bit, forced, uninspired. But, again, who cares. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Jan 31, 2020 10:14:19 GMT -5
What a piece of shit of a song. Why do you even bother to comment the same thing every time? Because I’ve been a member of the forum since 2008. I’m entitled to. I want to like what he’s doing. |
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 31, 2020 10:25:42 GMT -5
I know I’m definitely in a very very small minority but I much prefer songs like Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place and Blue Moon Rising over material like Dream On, God Help Us All and The Dying of the Light. Fair enough on TITP and BMR, both solid tunes, but Black Star Dancing is the worst song he has ever done. I am a big advocate for opinions in music, but I cannot help but judge those who enjoy that "song". Dream On is a dreadful plod, agree with you there. Dream On is a fine enough tune, never got the hate. You honestly think BSD is his very worst? I mean, it's hardly brilliant, but that man wrote Digsy's Dinner, Magic Pie, Let There Be Love, and Roll With It. How on God's green earth is BSD his worst? |
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Post by LightsOffInside on Jan 31, 2020 11:06:44 GMT -5
Fair enough on TITP and BMR, both solid tunes, but Black Star Dancing is the worst song he has ever done. I am a big advocate for opinions in music, but I cannot help but judge those who enjoy that "song". Dream On is a dreadful plod, agree with you there. Dream On is a fine enough tune, never got the hate. You honestly think BSD is his very worst? I mean, it's hardly brilliant, but that man wrote Digsy's Dinner, Magic Pie, Let There Be Love, and Roll With It. How on God's green earth is BSD his worst? I'd take every single song you mentioned there over Black Star Dancing, several times over. I actually think The Quiet Ones is better, thats how terrible BSD is. Hell, I'd rate Little James over it. Certainly the very worst song NG has ever done, IMO, right at the bottom of the ol' list. |
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 31, 2020 11:18:03 GMT -5
Fair enough on TITP and BMR, both solid tunes, but Black Star Dancing is the worst song he has ever done. I am a big advocate for opinions in music, but I cannot help but judge those who enjoy that "song". Dream On is a dreadful plod, agree with you there. Dream On is a fine enough tune, never got the hate. You honestly think BSD is his very worst? I mean, it's hardly brilliant, but that man wrote Digsy's Dinner, Magic Pie, Let There Be Love, and Roll With It. How on God's green earth is BSD his worst? Roll With It is great. |
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Post by rickypaglais on Jan 31, 2020 11:38:35 GMT -5
I don't get the delight at musicians going in different directions musically. There's a million different artists out there who excel at their respective genres, I don't need pop rock musicians to make sub par disco music, I'd just listen to another musician.
If I like Walkers salt and vinegar crisps I wouldn't want them to start tasting differently
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Post by asyouwere on Jan 31, 2020 11:45:44 GMT -5
Listened to this yesterday. Just woke up.
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